Having a vendor explicitly supporting it...epic is an understatement.

I had completely forgotten Lenovo bought Motorola from Google some 10 years ago. Honestly haven't seen a Motorola phone in at least that long ...

Motorola Mobility belongs to Chinese Lenovo but headquarters are in Chicago. Not sure if that makes it better or worse regarding privacy and surveillance compared to USA only.

Good. Now if only they could make the Edge+ with the same relative spec sheet and ditch the curved glass in 2027. I'd buy it in a heartbeat for Graphene. My next phone WAS going to be a Pixel for the broader case/screen protector support, but that would make me reconsider cause I would really miss the chop chop flashlight.

My last few phones have been Motorolas and I've been very very happy with them.

My only issue was that back then, I wasn't really paying attention to alternative OSs like Graphene, Lineage or e/os and was therefore not really too concerned with ROM support/chip set. When I switched over to e/os, two of my Motorola's (including the one I WANT to use with it) has no ROM support because it's running a Mediatek chipset. So I'm using my second to last one while my nice new one collects dust.

Moving forward I'll be paying more attention to Qualcomm vs Mediatek.

Me too. I've always bought Google Pixels but I don't want to give Google my money anymore.

So I'll probably buy a Motorola if this deal gets through.

i bought a mororolla 3 years ago and it still lasts 2 days on a charge. id say go for it.

I'd add "less than 15cm tall" too. I've had enough of stupid giant phones that don't fit in pockets and where you can't even reach the top or other side with your thumb.

SD slot would be great. Fuck every major company getting rid of it, so you have to use their cloud provider.

+1 for the headphone jack

I'd really like a removable battery as well.

OEM, they can lock the bootloader. So at least there's that

Just wanted to echo the vote with your wallet sentiment. It’s the only power we have!

I once bought a Motorola one phone because it would have quick and lengthy updates. Motorola certainly didn't provide that.
Other than that it was a decent phone.

I have used Motorola for the last 5 years or so. They had superior battery life compared to the others and were inexpensive. I bought my last one for like 40 bucks on clearance. I won't spend more than 100 bucks plus tax on a phone anymore. I use minimal apps, don't take lots of pictures with it, mostly text and make phone calls on it. I don't keep social media apps on it nor restaurant apps. I mostly use the Maps, the Notes, and the browser applications. I don't like the android/google calendar interface but will use reminders/tasks. I also use book/reading/podcast apps (Librivox, Podbean, Kindle, and another one...). I had overly invested in Kindle years ago unfortunately. I don't really watch video on the phone as it is too small, but have YT music on it. I could use advice for alternatives that are better.

Grapheneos is a pretty attractive selling point for a phone. They could even make money the old fashioned way: by selling phones.

Probably they will not support it for budget phones

Graphene might be marketed towards enterprises first. Look at that leaked slide again: it mentions "bloatware-free interface with Business Edition."

The bigger leak is Motorola acknowledging they ship bloatware, IMO

Easy. By not making it a budget phone.

Motorola doesn’t have to sell apps. Apps sell themselves. And an App Store that isn’t riddled with crap is appealing to everyone.

I mean, they could still include those on the base model of the phone, but just officially support flashing Graphene for those who want to do it. I am reasonably certain the target markets for pre-installed apps/ads and people who would be interested in flashing Graphene are completely separate groups. Kind of like how a stock Pixel is basically Google/Gemini Spyware, but Thayer doesn't matter to someone who buys one to install Graphene.

Fully agree on that. Always better to start fully fresh, even without such problems.

That said, it's still important that it will ship pre-installed. That way app-developers who block GrapheneOS cannot excuse their actions anymore by saying that it was your decision to use another OS, and therefore not their problem.

Pixels have hardware documentation and are directly supported by Android, making them possible for the GrapheneOS dev community to support. Good luck doing that on a Samsung.

Motorola is doing good here. Also, buy a used Pixel 8, you'll have almost three years of support left.

Hey mate, don't need one of the Motorola's, buy a second hand pixel, I've got a 6 and a 10 pro (soon to be converted to GOS now that there are stable builds since it's my daily).

It's a bit of a shock compared to stock android but you'll actually feel like you own and control your phone again (like I do here on the pixel 6), but you'll lose features like the scam block, hold for me etc. that the stock OS does).

The onus becomes on you to keep the device secure, you can do another user profile to install stuff you want separate and it works nicely. It's all sandboxed and asks your consent before giving any permissions to an app, like android used to.

I solely need camera, contactless payments and projection for cars. If it is capable of these I am pre ordering.