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[–] 157 points 8 months ago (10 children)

As someone who builds a computer, installs whatever seems like the most stable LTS distro at the time with the longest support period, and only switches to a new one when the current LTS expires, I’d like to thank all of you for being my beta testers. Your support means the world.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    We've got to come up with a different acronym. What says old and stable?
    "I use Debian, lol (lots of love)"

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I installed the latest version of Pop and was shocked when like a third of the shit I wanted to find was missing. The settings page is barren. Zero VNC support out of the box, and most VNC software doesn’t even WORK! The shop is much better and faster than Pop shop… when it isn’t freezing all the time.

    Reverted back to 22.x before cosmic and all the stuff I need is back, VNC is built-in, and the slower Pop Shop never freezes. Nothing freezes, it’s perfectly stable.

    Cosmic looks nice but damn, the latest version of Pop is NOT there yet.

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  • [+] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Thank you! As person new to using Linux as a regular computer and not a CLI backend for a PiHole or server, I felt that way within the first hour of using COSMIC pop… I appreciate the validation from someone who (I assume) has used Linux a lot longer than me lawl

    It’s been a couple weeks since my comment you replied to and I’ve had a WONDERFUL time with Pop 22.x! Everything I’ve wanted to get working has worked perfectly, and I’m learning a ton. Excellent distro for new users (although I’m going to recommend 22.x for the foreseeable future)

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago (21 children)

    I use Arch BTW full-time for work and personal for about 3 years now and haven't had any issues at all.

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I worked with someone who uses arch on his work laptop

    One day it just died and he had to spend a day or two setting it all up again

    I mean, its not common, but it happens

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I ran arch through college, it broke 3 times over 4 years, basically each time because Nvidia updated. Now that I don't have the time to fuss with spending a couple of hours chrooting in and fixing Nvidia stuff, I just swapped to endeavorOS sway community edition (and made sure none of my PCs have Nvidia anything in them) and haven't had an issue yet.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, the only time things have broken in Arch for me has been with Nvidia driver updates.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Yep. Funnily enough, never really had any issues with the drivers on a desktop, only on mobile, mostly switching between integrated and discrete. But after messing with them on my laptop for a few years, you better bet my laptop was only running Intel integrated and my desktop runs on amd.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I used to do much distro hopping coming from gentoo and settling down with endeavour. My tip for all of you: use lvm for everything outside boot, root and swap (vms, home, games). That way a complete reinstall just takes minutes.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I've been dailying the exact same arch installation since 2014 without reinstalling it a single time.

    Now to be fair I did have it non-bootable at several points. Worst of which was a PAM update which broke it completely because the new config was in a .pacnew file and the old one was not compatible anymore. But since it was a edge-case there was no forum post about it. Still recovered it just fine after an hour or so of troubleshooting.

    It's all open-source and usually decently documented. The only reason anyone should have to reinstall a Linux desktop is lack of experience, but I would always advise to persevere because troubleshooting my system is how I gained much of my expertise. If that's not what you want, stick to Debian.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Around 10 years here. Some issues, but much less time wasted in total than if I had done β€œdist-upgrade”s the whole time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    whats dist-upgrade? this is the first time ive heard of it

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's what Debian and similar distributions use to switch from one stable release to the next. This happens every half year for Ubuntu and every blue moon for Debian, which makes it a significantly more error-prone process than updating Arch every week in my experience.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The only issue I ever had was Arch ARM changing the naming convention for network devices and making me have to plug the first Raspberry Pi that I upgraded into a monitor to debug what was going on.

    This was annoying for sure, but less annoying than using a 6 year old Python version like the Red Hat Enterprise Linux at work...

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I like Fedora for my desktop. Close enough to upstream to get the latest features, but not so bleeding edge that it's unstable.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    And it's Linus's distro of choice.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but he has stated that he really doesn't have an opinion. He just happened to install Fedora on the family PC a long time ago and now he neither wants to deal with two separate distros, nor switch the whole household over.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Yeah same. Its a little annoying having to wait for certain updates, like when a new application can be built from source on arch, but i'd have to rebuild a core dependency from a scratch to get it working on fedora.

    But ive been using it for years, and even if i broke the system, ive always got it working again, which is saying something.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I'm on Nobara, and if the installation ever dies, i will probably install pure fedora. My previous experiences were all with debian, which drove me crazy as a gamer because when playing current games you want your system to be a lot closer to the bleeding edge of the knife - debian is more like a chain glove for holding it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I'm kinda coming around to using Fedora. I use Arch, btw, but Fedora is pretty close to how I configure my Arch system anyway. Plus, Fedora has a little extra polish with the splash screens that I don't bother with in my Arch setup.

    Maaaaybe...

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  • [+] 31 points 8 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Obligatory reference to NixOS.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Step 1: ah so glad this setup is complete and fully tweaked. So let’s leave it as is.

    Step 2: but then again maybe I should try out this little extra thing I just found online that might not work…

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Step 1: ah so glad this setup is complete and fully tweaked. So let’s leave it as is.

    Step 2: but then again maybe I should try out this little extra thing I just found online that might not work…

    Step 2: Why is x broken after an update!?

    ..

    Step 99: ah so glad this setup is complete and fully tweaked. So let’s leave it as is.

    Is it just me? I've had more issues with Linux updates than Windows updates at this point. Don't get me started with major distro updates.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    To me it kinda depends on what hardware/distro.

    Currently running MX on multiple systems for more than a year now and it’s been pretty smooth sailing.

    I do remember, however, using fedora and whatnot ages ago having exactly what you describe.

    If you want something more stable you might wanna look at debian, opensuse,… (I’m sure someone more knowledgeable will complete this list). They might not be as flashy but you can depend on those and get some work done.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'm running LTS versions of Ubuntu server (and Windows 11 on my PC). Debian would be more stable, but then it's so far behind that it's a pain to use at times, especially for running any kind of game server. Ubuntu has been pretty good so far, but LTS to LTS isn't always easy.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    This but new Linux users. They get attracted to the worse newbies distros every time

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Used to be me. I ran Debian Unstable for years. Got tired of it breaking. I installed Stable probably 7 or 8 years ago and never looked back.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you ever feel the need, OpenSuSE Tumbleweed is shockingly stable on my old rig.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    I have this, but in Windows 11. I’m stuck.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    TFW Windows drops everything you're doing to automatically install unstable updates

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Same here. I want to ditch Windows 11 so badly, but I tried Linux Mint and I lost half my frame rate in games. I guess if you use a Nvidia GPU on Linux then you're shit outta luck sadly, as I heard the reason is poor driver support. If I did something wrong I'll gladly try Linux again but I don't have high hopes it will work now :(

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    nvidia drivers are good performance-wise, you should have installed the proprietary ones because mint comes with nouveau, which does not perform well at all. if you did that, let's talk about L3 cache. ironically gaming on low end hardware is worse on linux because apparently proton needs quite a bit of that cache. my previous cpu (9600kf) had 9 MB and it was hopeless, current one has almost 100 and performance is not an issue anymore.

    btw pop os comes with proprietary nvidia drivers so you don't need to think about it all, but because they ship it with their half-done cosmic de, can't recommend it to newcomers anymore..

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    My CPU (Ryzen 9 3900XT) is a 12 core CPU paired with an RTX 5080. My CPU sucks for gaming and is meant more for workstations, so you might be onto something here...

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    your cpu is good, seems like you were on the right tracks originally. people have been complaining about 5080 performance with dx12 games on linux. it may take them a while to get the drivers right, but i did recently see some news (techlinked probably) about nvidia adding resources to optimizing their linux drivers

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I’m just waiting for win 11 to fail catastrophically in me. That will definitely give me the time to install Linux… checks notes… Debian?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    What games specifically? Some distros require a bit more driver installation, so maybe that was part of it (was running an rtx 2070 super on linux until a few months ago on linux, didn't have any issues with frame rates). The poor driver support is mostly on laptops, as they sometimes have issues switching between integrated and discrete graphics.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    On my system I am using kde x11 instead of wayland for the same reason. Last time I tried wayland I was getting half of the framerate compared to x11.

    At some point I want to switch to a gaming-oriented distros and see if it's magically better there.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    I have many other things I'd rather do on my computer, than mess around with the OS. I just want one that works and stays out of my way. Oh, and doesn't spy on me.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Pop/cosmic let’s go!

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well, if you're okay using 3+ years old versions of various software...

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    yo you can just turn a choice into a meme and the crowd will go crazy

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    If you want up-to-date rolling release packages without living dangerously, I recommend openSUSE Tumbleweed. It breaks way less than most other rolling distros such as Arch. I don't know how they achieve it but they do.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Use Guix/Nix, have your cake and eat it

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I've been very happy with Endeavour / Arch on my desktop for the past year until last week. Issues when waking up the desktop, Plasma panels disappearing, resolution forced to the minimum, etc. I rolled back the kernel to the LTS version and it fixed a few things. I can't complain because it's not my main computer but it's not ideal.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've been using Arch (btw) for a few months now and have been really enjoying it. I am scared that something is going to break though. I have Timeshift and BorgBase backups but I would rather not deal with that tbh. I haven't tried Debian yet but I think I might make it my next distro. However, it's going to be really hard to give up the AUR and Arch wiki.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    NixOS unstable... I like to live dangerously, safely.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    "I'm on the bleeding edge of Linux! I get the most advanced features the distro allows! Yeah, it may periodically brick my home system from time to time, but its worth it when I can get..."

    reorganizing the symlink layout of the NVIDIA firmware

    "... which I literally cannot live without".

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    LTS is all fun and games and stability until someone releases an update with features that I really really want right now. This is why I keep coming back to KDE neon.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I’m really curious as to what those features would be?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Most recently I switched from Debian because the version of plasma I was running had a bunch of little issues running wayland on my Nvidia card (bought when i was running windows, will be going amd... Someday). The new version of plasma had a bunch of Nvidia specific fixes that wouldn't make it down to my system for months.

    Tbh, I also kinda like the little issues that i occasionally have with rolling release distros. I learn a lot from having to fix things and it keeps me sharp.

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