Not like I was going to burger king anyway but this is a solid reason not to
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My SO works at a callcenter and they get dinged for the use of what they call "tragic phrases." These include, but aren't limited to:
- "Unfortunately"
- Words/phrases that imply uncertainty like "should"
- Words/phrases that imply non-commitment like "I can't do that" or "that's against policy" or "that's not my dept"
- So-called sloppy words/phrases like "No problem" or "hold on just a sec"
Its fucking ridiculous. They pay some outside vendor for training and guidelines.
As a customer, I would feel much more comfortable talking to someone who doesn’t sound like they have a gun to their head.
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God dam, that's horrible. Unfortunately it's not my department but I should let you know your not alone, now hold on a sec while I transfer you to purgatory
I'm so glad I can mouth off to customers in my line of work, not that I abuse the privilege but sometimes a customer needs to be told they are a fucking idiot and they could of flooded or burnt the place down.
I’ve come to accept that “no problem” is just some people’s way to say “you’re welcome” but I still really dislike the sound of it right after I say thank you for something completely normal.
Cashier: “Here’s your change.”
Me: “Thank you.”
Cashier: “No problem.”
My brain: “Oh… I didn’t even think it could have been a problem to hand me my change, but I guess I’m glad to hear that it was not in fact any problem.”
You aren't speaking the same language, apparently:

I love to see that kind of intercultural reading being made. In good faith, I respect it and disagree with its internal logic. If you think help is expected of you, you will not offer any mention of whether or not it’s a problem for you, period.
What about people who say "my pleasure" or "I just came"
This is the worst timeline. 1984 was a warning not an instruction manual.
And Idiocracy was a comedy not a documentary
it was too optimistic
If only we lived in a world where the President of the United States went and recruited the smartest person in the world to solve the most difficult problems
In a way, that is what DOGE attempted to be was sold as...by people who don't understand what smart is supposed to mean...and ended up getting grifted was really a grift, because that is as far as they all can imagine smart to be.
They really did us a disservice being fucking hilarious the whole time
I’m currently watching Handmaid’s Tale for the first time (the show, not the movie. I haven’t seen the movie). I’ve never read the book either so no spoilers please. Anyway, it’s eerie how many things are lining up. Like you said, supposed to be a warning, not a guidebook.
I went to Wendy’s the other day, and they have this automatic pre-recorded English-fluent woman cheerfully ask for your order. While an actual person didn’t indicate that they were ready, I know they won’t do a second intro message either way, so I started to order. A heavy spanish accent comes over the speaker “Fucking wait, god.” My only thought was “Fair enough” and I waited.
Whoever implements these systems is crazy. We don’t pay people enough to be policed that heavily.
That’s a very generous reaction to being cussed at for following instructions. I have no problem being asked to wait. I actually appreciate having someone acknowledge that I’m there by telling me to wait. But damn. Keep it classy.
Taco Bell does that now. Every single drive thru I’ve gone to have a intro message
“Welcome to Taco Bell are you checking in with your app or reward points??”
And each version is clearly recorded locally because they always sound like a manager or something.
I almost want to drive to a bunch and record them for a dystopian compilation.
And I usually say “I have an order for ” and I get silence or a long pause and someone saying hold on.
It’s pointless. Especially when I can see the window operator handing food to a car ahead of me, I know they’re not ready but I’ve already been autoprompted by the recording.
The first time I went to Wendy's and it ran into that AI thing I complained to the manager, politely because I know it's not their fault, but I just wanted to make my dislike of it known for them to tell their higher ups or whatever. She did say that you can just ask for a human. But I did make sure to be very clear that I was wasn't just being a Karen.
So...instead of AI doing the work...AI is going to be the Boss?
Fuck. That.
And middle managers everywhere don't see the writing on the wall somehow.
Thing is, I'm sure they do. But they're middle management so they can't do shit about it. Executives that think this stupid shit up have their heads so far up their ass they don't understand how incredibly dumb their ideas for what AI does actually are.
Idk, one of my co-workers on another team specifically brought up to their manager that what it's currently being trained to do is basically a majority of the managers job and he didn't get it.
Maybe he does and was just playing it off though 🤷
Well some people are just stupid too lol. I bet most of them see that threat. Some also want to try and be the one that stays behind because they did all the AI stuff not realizing it's all going to fail lol.
I don't think it'll completely fail, you are overestimating the average middle manager ;)
Sure. Some of it does work. I use AI all the time which is why I know how bad it is at a lot of things. x)
It's going to fail to provide the absurd gains these idiots executives keep claiming. Of course I suspect all the layoffs and stuff they're doing, they're just using "AI" as a cover for their own incompetence (over hiring during COVID among other things).
The Fallout style corporate dystopia isn't coming in the future. It's today. It's right now.
Jesus Christ. I don't trust any syrupy cheerful, fake happy, overly polite, "I'm sooo sooorry you had the slightest inconvenience" type customer service. No, I've done that job. You know you don't give a shit. I know you don't give a shit. You know I know you don't give a shit. We both know you can barely afford to live. The world is spiraling. Pretending otherwise is insufferable. Just be honest and give it to me jaded, bitter, and cynical like we both deserve.
Does "thanks, mother fucker, have shit ass day, and please go fuck yourself" bring up my numbers?
Pro tip to BK: I probably wouldn't even notice the lack of 'please' and 'thank you'. I would, however, be significantly happier if you stopped making them say "You Rule". Seems like they have to say it as both greeting and a "your order is finished". It's just unpleasantly cringey.
If they want to lean more into the branding, they should do something like make the BK uniforms more regal. I'm thinking flowing robes, little plastic crowns, that sort of thing.
FORCING Minimum Wage workers to say Please and Thank You will ENSURE that their FOOD QUALITY will go UP while Prices go Affordable!
I used to work for a consultancy that tried to bill themselves as experts in VR/AR. This is back in 2017 or so. We helped a client make a 3D tracking system with VR/AR applications, and this client let us kind of run with it.
Anyway, I was sort of head of this AR/VR thing, and we were always desperate for free advertising, so I somehow got pulled to provide my thoughts on the impact of VR/AR on the grocery store industry for an article in "The Grocer" or some other industry mag.
Leading up to the call, I was trying to think of what I'd say. My thoughts were on building out virtual grocery stores to test customer reactions before building them for real. Bring in some test subjects, see how they plan their route, how they react to different placements of goods. Track their eye movements to see if the new end-cap design is working. Time how long they spend in the store, etc. Are the aisles too narrow and claustrophobic. I got the idea from another client who was using VR to test out new detergent bottle concepts (apparently a one-off of a blow-molded bleach bottle is crazy expensive).
Well my consultancy had been purchased by a multinational conglomerate a year or so prior, so I got a phone call from some C-suite ass who wanted to brief me on what they wanted me to say to the magazine.
His idea was a service where you could have a store employee wear some kind of camera rig so the customer could sit at home in VR and pilot the employee around the store. This would essentially replace curbside pickup, but with the added benefit of "allowing the customer to pick which apple they want out of the bunch."
I resolved to ignore that advice, but the whole magazine thing ended up falling through anyway. I quit within the year.
No one asked for this
It's the C-suite. They're so corporatized they can't differentiate between an over-the-top professional smile and somebody being genuinely helpful.
Sam Altman did.
BK probably tried to implement AI to take orders, and well you saw how well it worked at Taco Bell. This is probably the minimum return on their "investment"
That sounds like a big steaming violation of workers rights.
Is surveiling workers fine where this is planned to be executed?
This will be a US only thing. Because as you said everywhere else has laws.
McDonald's really isn't much better, and really there's not much stopping them from recording everything and deleting it after it's seen review. Basically just more reasons to try and fire people then not pay for unemployment insurance it appears.
Just like basically all of this AI shit... Who is this for?
They should be focused on making their food better and cheaper, not making their employees miserable.
I'll get my burger at whatever restaurant treats its workers and customers like human beings.
As if that were the reason people don't go to Burger King
The last time I had BK that wasn't trash was at the Honolulu airport, that was October 2024 and I think I've stopped at BK once since and it was horrible. Not to mention Canadian sizes are much much smaller it seems. Like fuck I used to buy the chicken sandwichs and now they are like half the size and the chickens shit
They're not supposed to put chicken shit on the sandwich unless you specifically request it.
I regret choosing the red pill; this reality is getting worse and worse. Can I go back to the 90s Matrix?
Can I go back to the 90s Matrix?
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ignoring the distopian nightmare, this shit isn't free to run. Hiw the hell would they justify this expense?
My company is doing something similar with AI (although not quite this this awful) and I can tell you from various meetings that I've been in that management really doesn't have a clue how AI works. I think it's just a magic box.
The current genius plan is to run all of this locally on a big server farm, I don't think they have yet realised how expensive it's going to be due to price spikes, ironically because of AI. I highly doubt that it will ever actually come to fruition, or will get some incredibly watered down thing that barely operates but management obsess over for 6 months, until they inevitably stop caring.
I would place good money on a bet that says that 2 years from now they will not be using this.
Eh, to my knowledge, something like OpenAIs Whisper API for audio transcription is only $0.006/min, so $8.64 for an entire day's worth of audio. From there, you could run some basic non-AI heuristics to determine if keywords were uttered or not per customer interaction.
That's their trying to get people hooked on AI pricing. That's not sustainable though, They're only able to charge that price because they get special deals on the electricity, but that's not going to last.
Eventually all the companies are going to have to put their prices up once investment money runs out
“Im sorry Sylvia we’re going to have to let you go. You didn’t say ‘thank you’ enough.
It says here you were obsessed with someone named ‘Hank Ewe’. Absolutely deplorable. “
IIRC Burger King was one of, if not the first companies to use computerized inventory/bookkeeping. And they used it to try and crack down on employees giving away extra food. It was a giant waste of money.
Not at all dystopian. Orwell would approve!
Orwell was a British police officer in Myanmar, breaking up labor organizations and suppressing an independence movement, so...
Probably he would
He joined the Imperial Police at 19 years old at the urging of his family because they couldn't afford to send him to university and his poor grades meant that he would likely not be able to get a scholarship. He hated his time with the police force, hated the British empire, and called imperialism "an evil thing."
So no, probably he wouldn't.
He hated his time with the police force, hated the British empire, and called imperialism “an evil thing.”
Incredibly, the man once accused of communist tendencies and the creator of Big Brother, was by 1949 surreptitiously working for British intelligence. He drew up a list of names of crypto-communists for Britain’s Foreign Office Information Research Department, the spies who led the UK propaganda war.
Orwell’s contact was Celia Kirwan, a former flame who visited the author while he battled tuberculosis at a sanatorium in England. Orwell had proposed to her years earlier but they were simply friends at that point - friends in high places. During her visit, Celia and Orwell discussed the secretive projects the IRD was doing “in great confidence, and he was delighted to learn of them, and expressed his wholehearted and enthusiastic approval of our aims,” according to Britain’s National Archives and Foreign Office records.
Orwell listed the names of suspected communists who might betray Britain if they were hired to work as writers in the propaganda unit. In his now-famous letter dated April 6, 1949, Orwell writes: “I could also, if it is of value, give you a list of crypto-communists, fellow-travelers or inclined that way and should not be trusted as propagandists.”
Orwell wanted his list to be ‘strictly confidential’. It includes dozens of literary luminaries of the ‘40s including J. B. Priestley, the novelist and playwright, and Manchester Guardian industrial correspondent John Anderson, described by Orwell as: "Probably sympathizer only. Good reporter. Stupid."
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Orwell collapsed with tuberculosis after writing the first draft of Nineteen Eighty-Four and typed the second version of his novel while recovering in bed. He collapsed again when he had finished and died on January 21, 1950. The CIA, US Army, and British spies began courting his young widow, his second wife Celia, almost immediately hoping to buy the firm rights to Animal Farm. The CIA closed the deal with a promise of cash and an introduction to Hollywood movie star Clarke Gable. The Brits settled for the rights to turn Animal Farm into a comic strip.
Not sure how any of that discounts his anti-imperialist and anti-authoritarian beliefs.
Read it again. Think harder.
Why don't you actually make your own point instead of copying your thoughts wholesale from other writers? Ironic that the person railing against Orwell can't think for themself.
make your own point
copying your thoughts
Brother. This is Orwell's biography. It's not a "point". It's how he lived his life.
Lmao, an excerpt from a spyscape article about a single event in his life isn't a biography, nor does a single event paint a complete picture about the man or his beliefs. Not sure what you have against Orwell, but you're not doing a convincing job conveying it.

Damn, you ain't kidding, but at least he wrote all about it in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Days
Oh hey, that's almost exactly the kind of cyberpunk dystopia that I grew up reading fiction about:
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