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[–] 119 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The Boston Philharmonic Orchestra

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  • [–] 74 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Any Orchestra then really (of any substantial age).

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  • [–] 104 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Lynyrd Skynyrd's last original member died in 2023 and they're still touring.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    The Ink Spots are an interesting case. They're a vocal group from the 30s. Not only did that group Theseus itself and then dissolve by the 50s, but afterward there were legal disputes. A bunch of the past members claimed rights to the name. Courts ultimately said 'nobody owns the name, you can all use it'. So anybody with any connection was going around performing as The Ink Spots, and those groups were also changing members. Over the decades there were probably multiple fully Theseus'd versions of the group going at the same time.

    Andrew Hickey has a good podcast episode on it that you can listen to/read. https://500songs.com/podcast/the-ink-spots-thats-when-your-heartaches-begin/

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sugababes in the UK.

    At one point all the original members were replaced.

    Then in 2011 the new members were replaced by the originals again.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago*

    The women that left after the first album has been back in the band for over a decade and I had no idea. That's more time than she'd left for.

    In 2012, Donaghy and her former colleagues Mutya Buena and Keisha Buchanan confirmed their reunion.

    But they only got rights to the original band name in 2019

    The original trio were not able to release music under the name Sugababes as it was still owned by the management company. They instead released music under the new name Mutya Keisha Siobhan, until they secured the legal rights to the Sugababes name again in 2019.

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  • [+] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Balsac has been consistent. Debatable depending on your definition of original but it's been the same guy for a long time.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Complicated question. They rotate OG, later members. Sometimes it's all nonOG members. I think Gwar is meant to be an ensemble performance art experience rather than, say, Foreigner. NotCSB I played a show with Gwar in 2000. Didn't wear a costume, just lame very 90s appropriate attire. We were HAMMERED. And no one took anything seriously.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    Yes for a couple of decades was like the anti-Ship of Theseus. They would go on tour with everybody who had ever been in the band at any point. They even had Peter Banks (guitarist on their first two largely unknown albums) and The Buggles with them.

    Actually kind of a cool concept as their studio albums used a lot of overdubbing which was impossible for single musicians on stage to reproduce. Having 17 guitarists means you can do it all.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago*

    Tangerine Dream, but that's kind of their whole thing to be a ship of theseus, always changing. None of the original members are still around. The current members were all born decades after the band was started.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    there's a metal band called Zao that's been around for ages and have had all members replaced. they wrote a song (called ship of Theseus) about it.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    ELO is an interesting case. Pinning down the original members is already a bit tricky, because the first album was really just a side project of The Move, before Roy Wood left to start Wizzard in the middle of doing their second album. If we're generous and say their third album was really their first as a seperate band, we end up with a group that's fairly static throughout the 70s and that most fans would call the classic lineup. the only two truly original members, though, were Jeff Lynne and Bev Bevan, and everyone else in the and was technically considered an employee, which you can imagine led to all sorts of legal chaos

    in the late 80s Jeff decided to shutter the band. Bev Bevan wanted to continue but Jeff considered himself synonymous with ELO being their writer, so eventually the two of them agreed to let Bev tour under the name ELO Part II with a lot of the members of the classic lineup. In the early 2000s, Jeff wanted in again but the "employees" thing and some legal trouble between him and Part II left him wanting to start fresh. No one knows the full story, but Bev, who was seemingly still enthusiastic about touring, suddenly decided to retire. Part II had to rebrand to The Orchestra, no longer having a The Move representative, but kept touring. Meanwhile Jeff did an album and a short tour with his new ELO, which had their classic keyboard player but The Orchestra had basically everyone else from the classic lineup. Jeff's ELO went dormant until 2015 where it went by the literal name of Jeff Lynne's ELO. Keyboard player Richard Tandy recently passed away, and with violinist Mik Kaminski retiring this year from the Orchestra, ELO has not one but two ships, one of which has been completely and thoroughly Theseused and the other just one plank away.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Are there any original members of Ghost?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    The Puerto Rican boy band Menudo from the 80s. Members are replaced once they hit puberty, Ricky Martin was one of its members. The group had 50 members in it's lifetime.

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    Kraftwerk has at one point or another not had each of its core members. The only original member now is Hütter, but he left the band briefly in the early 70s (when they were still doing psychedelic rock) so nobody has been in the band continuously. And even though they typically have 4 members, a total of 21 musicians has rotated through the group.

    Idk if that quite counts, but it's close at least.

    They did sing "wir sind die Roboter", and robots are replaceable, so I guess it's an appropriate band history. But, the output has still declined...

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    While Hütter was absent (to study architecture), Kraftwerk's lineup was basically Neu with Florian Schneider. There are a couple bootleg recordings of this lineup: ‘Ruck Zuck’ and ‘K4’, offering some Kraftwerk tunes being played by Neu.

    Upon his return, Hütter promptly kicked out Rother and Dinger, and they formed Neu proper.

    TBF, though, Kraftwerk is pretty much Ralf und Florian (hue hue) — starting way back with their proto-krautrock band Organisation.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I’d say Kraftwerk was Ralf und Florian initially, but I’d suggest Karl became an essential member from The Man Machine onwards.

    Ralf and Florian weren’t ones to give any credit unless credit is due, and Karl’s name is all over many of their best songs and composed many of their most famous melodies.

    I find Kraftwerk post-Karl way too sterile and Karl post-Kraftwerk too unrefined. I think Ralf and Karl really complemented each other in terms of composition and production.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That makes sense, I suppose the bootleg song Heavy Metal Kids was also from that proto-Neu period? Because as great as it is it's such a different aesthetic...

    Btw what are your thoughts on early Kraftwerk/Organisation in general? Do you enjoy those albums? I found them wildly varying in quality, ranging from incredible to unlistenable...

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Yeah, ‘Heavy Metal Kids’ was on ‘K4’, which is a recording from a Radio Bremen concert (with pretty good quality). The track names there are unofficial, afaik. Some of them could be variations on properly released tracks or those recorded on other bootlegs.

    Frankly I myself amn't a fan of some early Hütter-led experiments, like the incredibly drawn out ‘Ruck Zuck’, which sounds interesting a couple times and is kinda meh after that. This particular track was reinterpreted by the different lineups, and Organisation's version is groovy, while Neu-Schneider's one is more hypnotic and at the same time raw in comparison.

    It's very obvious that Kraftwerk were still looking for their proper sound back then. I'm due for a relisten of the first albums, but also am in no hurry to do that, as I never could find anything quite catching the ear. But completely dismissing them like Kraftwerk did is imo unwarranted, it's a document of the era. Also Dinger was bringing some energy to the music that they couldn't properly realize until Hütter was gone.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Newsboys, a major Christian rock band founded in 1985. All original members have been replaced.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Their most-recent lead singer, formerly of DC Talk, turned out to be a super rapey POS.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Not up to date personally, but I feel like at one point Guns n' Roses was just Axl and all different musicians

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, that's because it was. The album Chinese Democracy was basically a solo project by Axl.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Apparently many versions of the songs exist (or have existed) as parts of songs were also re-recorded as members joined and left over the many years it took to finish the album. In itself a ship of theseus album.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    EVERY Japanese girl band... Morning Musume, AKB48, etc...

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    The search results are interesting, but I haven't heard of half the bands:

    Bands with No Original Members

    • Opeth: No original members remain, with the last, David Isberg, leaving in 1992.
    • Jinjer: All founding members from their 2008 formation have left.
    • Napalm Death: Formed in 1982, the band replaced its entire original lineup within the first five years.
    • Molly Hatchet: None of the members from the 1978 original lineup or first album are present.
    • Thin Lizzy: Still tours with no original members, including only two who played on earlier studio material.
    • Blood, Sweat & Tears: Has had nearly 200 members, with all original members leaving early in their career.
    • The Spinners: While they had long-term members, by 2010, the original lineup was gone.
    • In Flames: No original members from their 1990 inception remain.
    • Foreigner: Due to health issues, founding member Mick Jones ceased touring with them.
    • Judas Priest: No original members are in the current touring lineup.
    • Yes: Features no original members.

    Bands with Only One Original Member Left (Often Considered "One-Member" Bands)

    • AC/DC: Angus Young is the sole remaining original member, as of 2024.
    • Iron Maiden: The only remaining original member is bassist Steve Harris.
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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    Opeth is a strange one and I don't think it really counts. The band was still forming when the current leader of the band joined. Yeah if you're super technical then the band that formed didn't include him, but it seems like the "original" group hadn't even played any showed before Akerfelt joined.

    In a bio that Akerfelt wrote he says that basically the band died the day he showed up to a rehearsal and later he and the original founder "reformed" Opeth, so it's debatable if it's a ship of thesius situation or a new ship with the same name.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Some of these are real stretches involving band names getting swapped around.

    The original band called "Judas Priest" broke up entirely. KK Downing, and Ian Hill were in a band called Freight together. Al Atkins of the now-defunct Judas Priest joined Freight, and they decided the now-available name of Judas Priest was cooler. It was not the same band. Furthermore, before their first album was recorded Atkins was replaced with Halford, and Tipton also joined. So I would count Ian Hill, Rob Halford, and Glenn Tipton all as founding members.

    Opeth is similar. The first Opeth before Ackerfeldt broke up without recording any albums.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Is this AI slop? Because it's certainly wrong.

    Judas Priest: No original members are in the current touring lineup.

    Rob Halfords left in the late 90s but returned in the 00s and is still the frontman.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    According to Wikipedia, the band formed in 69 and the earliest a current member joined was 70 (Ian Hill). Halfords didn't join until 73.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    TIL. That all happened before their first album though. Not sure I'd count that.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Founding members are those who founded the band, who are (potentially) different from anyone on any record.

    Although Judas Priest's case is special, according to a comment below.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Napalm Death were formed in 1981, and were still developing their proper sound when drummer Mick Harris joined in late '85 and pushed their limits into what is now known as grindcore. That lineup recorded what became the side A of the first album, ‘Scum’. The last remaining original member, vocalist Nic Bullen, left after that, and the band cycled through several more changes, such that Harris is the only one present on the sides A and B of the album.

    Harris was in the band for two more albums, leaving in '91 to form jazzcore band Painkiller with John Zorn and Bill Laswell. Napalm Death's lineup stabilized by that time and continues with the new drummer Danny Herrera to this day, with the exception of ditching the second guitarist and later adding another one.

    Funny enough, Harris started a side-project Scorn with Nic Bullen right after leaving Napalm Death, and they originally played sort of industrial metal. Bullen again bailed in '95, whereupon Harris changed to industrial illbient, before releasing ‘Greetings from Birmingham’ in 2000, the sound of which might be familiar to everyone here. Except Londoners somehow reinvented basically the same sound a bit later, turning it into a genre of its own.

    The same year '91, Harris was also a touring drummer for Godflesh, a project of Justin Broadrick who was the guitarist on the side A of ‘Scum’.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I don't know about other bands but the bit about iron maiden is really stretched.

    I guess if you consider the first lineup to be the one for their first concert in a bar's basement, alright. But if you take the first album, Dave Murray was already in the band and still is.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Of the bands listed I've only ever listened to In Flames, and it makes a lot of sense. I liked Come Clarity and A Sense of Purpose, but the newer stuff is just mediocre.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Richmond, VA has a few of these. the most famous one is GWAR

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Glenn Miller Orchestra was formed a while after Glenn Miller (of "Glenn Miller and his orchestra"-fame) disappeared in 1942. The new band was more or less a continuation of the old band, with some overlap in members. They're still active today.

    IIRC, the intention was for Deep Purple to continuously have members come and go, effectively making them a Band of Theseus. However, there was one lineup that was a lot more successful and famous, so changing the lineup would be detrimental to success.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Technically "Panic! at the Disco", if you can count every band member except the singer leaving, and being replaced by sessionists

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    you must have different definition of "all" than I

    EDIT: I cannot read

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    Same thing happened to Save Ferris and the Mad Caddies. The singers turned out to be massive douchebags (Monique Powell is incredibly egotistical and controlling, meanwhile Chuck Robertson went full MAGA) and all the members got sick of them, quit, and were replaced with sessionists.

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  • I'm outing myself, but La Bottine Souriante is a Quebec/French Canadian folk band who's founding member are all no longer current members.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    A quick web search revealed there are far more than I imagined.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Velvet Underground's last album Sqeeze is basically a Doug Yule solo album and made without any original members. Yule joined the band about halfway through its existence. For that reason many don't consider it part of the band's catalog. Personally, I think the album gets unfairly judged. It's pretty good, just not on par with Lou Reed's work, but what is?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The Cat Empire, but they still rock. 

    I don’t know if all are replaced but a lot. And it’s fine, they make new music which is still fun. 

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Blood Sweat & Tears had like 200 members, my dad knew one of the founding members and went to one of their concerts a couple years back. Got to talk to them after the show and not one of them had even heard of the guy. Feels like the ultimate example of this

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Tangential, but I this made me realize I honestly don't know the member names of most of the bands I listen to. I kinda know their faces if they have videos.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I'd bet a bunch of vocal groups from the early days of vinyl would fall into this group. They're probably mostly in Las Vegas and Branson these days.

    As a personal memory, I played a few gigs with The Diamonds(most known for their hit 1957 record "Little Darlin'") back in the early 2000s. They were having a bit of a resurgence after a PBS series aired. At one point the original bass singer was back, but he wasn't long for this earth and somebody else was in his place by the second tour I did.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Tull comes close. Anderson at one point said the band was over without barre but he reformed the band this millenia without him so at this point he is the only one who has always been with the band and indeed many people think his name is jethro tull. The band has had a crazy amount of turnover even early in its career and a crazy amount of ex members in other well known bands. Heck in the first or second studio album there is a song about members that left the band before its success. The 20 year album had a little flow chart of band members who ended up in other groups.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Whats the one where they are blue, wasn't the point so that members can change with little notice?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Napalm Death though the current line-up has been the same since their third album with sad exemption of Jesse Pintado who passed away in 2006.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    There is a local band called "Bläck Fööss" who were founded in 1970. They made the complete rebuild about one and a half times, and are still successful.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The Wiggles only have Anthony as an original member.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I don't think Chicago has anyone original left...?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    napalm death had this happen on their debut album. first side is one group of guys, second side is a completely different group, except the drummer

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Going off first recordings/releases, Scottish hardcore punks 'The Exploited' only remaining member is Wattie (singer). Going by initial formation and first live shows, none of the 'first' members remain.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Hawkwind has been going so long it's basically an institution. Fuck knows how Dave Brock is still going

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Does Skid Row count? The original band saw people come and go all the time, to the point that nobody really knew who was a member at that point. In 1987, Gary Moore, who hadn't been a member anymore, actually "sold" the name to a US band. The last original member still disputes the sale. So, you have two bands with the same name, with the original band had members replaced multiple times, with even the last remaining original member leaving and rejoining twice.

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