Stop trying to sell me on it; I'm already here!

Oh, I can exist in polite society just fine.

It's just that I don't want to.

Crosspost comment consolidation helps with that issue.

Already available on Piefed, planned on Lemmy 1.0.

I assure you, the alternative to the fediverse is not polite society, not in my experience. Unlike other platforms one is allowed to be wrong here and getting corrected doesn't trigger the fight, flight, freeze or fawn response.

Is the "polite society" in the room with us right now?

Is it at X-twitter?

If anyone's curious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Al_Babas

It’s not just a big truck you pile everything into. It’s a series of tubes!

I prefer the analogy of a fleet of ships - free-traders and pirates alike. Some captains refuse to pass along messages to other captains, and that's alright, because consent should matter, after all, and someone's "right to free speech" does (or rather should) not trump my right to not have to listen to their crap, nor my right if I were a captain to not have to platform it.

So you pick a captain that shares your values, or perhaps you become one of your own.

PieFed has made huge strides in cross-community visibility (multi-communities and combining comments across cross-posts), and in explaining what each instance is all about (see https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser), and in migration of whole entire communities between instances.

The Fediverse is not like email. It's like self-hosting your own email server. 🤔😝 But it's getting better. And people will put up with complexity if they see the value behind doing so - it's just that with so little content, and what content there is being so toxic, especially to newcomers, that it's not worth much of a hassle for them to keep trying whenever they hit a hurdle. Lowering the barriers will help enormously with that, as will increasing the level of enrichment to power through.

I could exist in polite society, but why would I want to?

The fediverse is not like email. It's more like a series of decentralized social networks that can communicate with each other.

This is funny but it's a very unfair comparison. That neighbourhood is fully abandoned with exactly 0 residents, and you know it would probably be shit even if it was finished as planned. The fediverse has at least some real people and is actually a fun place.

Reminds me of this. There's a couple of roma towns/neighborhoods in Romania that look even more ridiculous. They're competing with each other to have the tallest house with the most number of little tower thingies or something because I've passed through there a couple of years ago and it seems to be getting more and more out of hand.

Show of hands who's here because they're not allowed on reddit anymore? 🤚

So many comments in here hating on the "like email" wording. To be honest, it's been awhile since I've even seen any large number of comments using that analogy, but also, the "like email" part was pretty much always paired with additional explanation on which parts are like that and which parts differ from that. Like most analogies, it's not a perfect 100% 1-to-1 pairing of all features and function, otherwise, it wouldn't be an analogy. I'm not sure why so many people struggle with understanding that.

No, it's not like email. It's like Glibbleschmorken except there's not mandatory prereconcillation of sychroncratic communication.

That's inaccurate, my dude, it's nothing like Glibbleschmorken, it's more like WUD where there's a multiplier for the scoring quotient and no centralized conglomeration.

False. WUD SUX. There's only no centralized conglomeration if you ignore the fact that every hovel has API underpinning that strategizes the discombobulation. But, that's basically ignoring the facts. Federation is clearly just like UDP.

And so on. Ad nauseam.

I've always hated the email analogy, it only added to the confusion for me when I was first dipping my toe into Lemmy.

That place looks pretty cool for sure!

I'd say it's more like a big truck than a series of tubes.

Where might one find one of these “polite societies”?

I wouldn't say "driven" or "polite", but partially true, at least. Also, wasn't the fediverse always supposed to be a conglomerated mess? That's one of it's defining features.

If u squint ur eyes it looks like a klan gathering

When comparing the fediverse to email we're talking about the technology. It's a simplification to explain how it all connects together using a very similar and known example.

I think the only difference is that, unlike email, all fediverse uses the same* activitypub protocol. Other than that, yeah, it's just like those house-castles.

* Some differences may arise depending on implementation, like misskey reactions

What's broken besides piefed?

It's like email. Deal with it.

Whoever is behind those projects is the sort of kid who'd retell the same joke over and over expecting it to be as funny as the first time.

lol these were constructed with mostly Saudi Arabians in mind. Didn't really work out.

Where is the lie?