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[–] 143 points 9 months ago (22 children)

When they shut down the Apollo app for Reddit is when I left

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  • [–] 100 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    same with RIF

    Reddit is no longer fun.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah this was it for me. Best app ever...no bullshit ads or anything...and I was really upset that Reddit forcefully killed it for money. However, I did find that the app Red Reader is allowed to exist because of its accessibility features for the visually impaired. It's a good browsing experience...simple and no ads or BS.

    I still do browse Reddit because a lot of the communities I visit on there either don't exist on Lemmy or are too underpopulated for much of any content. Please don't tell me to just "post more content" myself. The point is I often don't have much content for the communities I visit. Like it or not, a community with 10 active members just isn't enough to have much to participate with, even if I am the one posting most of the content. For example, there is a tattoo community I stumbled across on Lemmy. But I only have so many tattoos. So obviously I cannot fill the page with endless more content.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I mean, yeah the app was a way better experience than even desktop, but holy shit, the content!

    It's overflowing with fascist, racist, misogynist and violent stuff much more than even a year or two ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You get banned for pro violence posts that might be that in the vaguest sense. Wonder how they do that probably AI + human mods.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    It always has that. It's why the first things you do when joining any online platform is to find the block button for anything news, faith, or politics related.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    It had far less of that at the start. It was a boiled frog effect for me. I realised I was just fighting through corporate trash to find a few gems, rather than filtering trash from a sea of gems.

    The loss of 3rd party apps just gave me the impetus to jump ship.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Shutting down third-party apps through unreasonable API pricing with extremely little notice, then actively lying about their conversations with Apollo’s developer about it even though he had recordings of the calls.

    I think there was even more BS at that time that made it against my personal values to stay, but those were the nails in the coffin for me.

    It was hard. I spent over ten years on reddit, and I’d been active in some meetup groups over the years, so a lot of my real-life friends came from there. It felt like ending a part of my identity.

    But hearing what kinds of nonsense they’ve continued to pull, I know I made the right decision and I’m glad I moved.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They forcibly replaced moderation teams on tons of major subreddits that went dark in protest too. No hesitation, tossed out the old teams entirely and replaced them with randoms, even on the former default subs. It was fucking chaos.

    There was very obvious botting happening to push opinions in favor of the api-pocalypse in certain big subs, to the point where you could reply to the bots with some of the most basic ass prompt redirection/escape and get them to spit out cooking recipes.

    People were getting banned for even mentioning lemmy. Reddit was reverting people editing their comments to try and scrub their history on the site, and banning the accounts, which is arguably a violation of GDPR's right to be forgotten.

    It was an absolute shit show.


    I had already made a lemmy account by that point. If it had just been the api lockdown, I probably would have went back in at least a limited capacity using one of the patched third party clients (use your own api key) or the patched official official one (removes the ads).

    But all of that shit together broadcast loud and clear that Reddit's owners weren't just passively stupid about what actually made the site worthwhile, they were actively antagonistic towards it.

    It was no secret that Reddit had no fucking clue why Reddit "worked" and couldn't be trusted to make good decisions. But all this shit demonstrated that the only thing they were interested in doing was intentionally killing it in a delusional attempt to maximize short term gains.


    And every time I had even a smidgen of desire to go back, they pulled more bullshit.

    Auto-generated language specific copies of popular subreddits, utilizing poor quality machine translation and literally stealing the top posts from the original subs with no attribution. Reddit disavowed that it was done by Reddit admins themselves, but there's no way it could have happened at the speed and scale it did otherwise.

    Mods still don't have anything remotely equivalent to the old tools from before the api bullshit.

    People getting permabanned over the most basic word filters imaginable (discussing the game Luigi's Mansion after the CEO-cide), then getting IP banned when they created a new account to try and get in touch with support.


    I still browse some of the subs related to my work passively (sysadmin, powershell, azure, etc) but the drop in quality and amount of bots is unignorable. Half the sysadmin sub posts are the most thinly veiled product ad setups.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    new accounts aand old accounts that were inactives are subject to shadowbans, and you dont need to say anything offensive. they treat them as "bots". so its careful for new users to warm up the account before commenting.

    for old accounts it might be best abandon it since you couldve potentially posted in a sub that may or may not have banned, removed comments,,,etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    they know what they are doing , them going public as a company and started shilling for right wing propaganda for more ad revenue, allowing scraping by GOOGLE, palintir. and spez is inlove with MUSK, so he purges at his requests.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I used Infinity for reddit but then they had to start charging for use because of the API pricing so I moved to Eternity which is a fork of Infinity for lemmy. Problem is, Eternity doesn't seem to be maintained anymore so when it stops working with some lemmy update I guess I'll just have to go back to entertaining myself with simon tatham's portable puzzle collection or something

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There are lots of app options for Lemmy. If you want an excuse to break the habit, EOL of an app is a great reason. But if not, try something else. That post is about 3 years old but it was the first I found and I didn’t feel like digging for more, lol.

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    [–] 67 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The API stupidity a while back. Reddit is unusable without 3rd party clients, and inc3 Joey didn't work anymore I said goodbye to the few communities who's members might recognize my username, and proceeded to delete my account.

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I was permabanned from Reddit for correctly identifying Elon Musk's political affiliations. Fuck spez and his bullshit.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I got perma banned for "inciting violence" because I said the Trump admin is/will go after lgbt people.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Ya, conservatives in 2008 to 2016 were usually mocked relentlessly and buried, life went on. But now reddit has definitely been infiltrated by the right wing and you get banned for making them cry.

    I had one account banned because I posted in a right wing sub of all places discussing Lord of the rings. The alt right has a weird obsession with LOTR if you didn't know. . I posted a video clip of clerks 2 where Randall is trashing the LOTR movies and says the true ending should be frodo bricking in Sam's mouth. Got banned for gay bashing in a right wing sub where they do it daily. The irony is astounding

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    it was mostly quiet before 2016, when trump won, russia realize reddit was a prime target so it has bombarded with so much propaganda, that bans started happening left and right for the slightest issue. also the gop/russia was responsible for shutting down alot of "controversial subs"

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    That type of stuff didn't happen to me, but I saw it happening to others. That's mostly why I left. Also I used the app Boost for Reddit, which became Boost for Lemmy so that helped me find an alternative and Reddit choosing corporate fascism helped me not look back.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago

    A federated web is a better one than a monopolized web, so I switched on principle.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago*

    API change killed Apollo, used Narwhal on and off for a year but ultimately did not want to pay a subscription for a social media platform, downloaded Voyager and here we are.

    I backed up my Reddit subscriptions and multi-reddits and have them as shortcuts on my Redlib instance.

    Been working on /c/ca_firearms_rights@sh.itjust.works hoping to build up a community similar to /r/CanadaGuns!

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  • [+] 30 points 9 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The amount of AI slop on Reddit these days is insane. A decade ago I could spend hours a day browsing interesting discussions, now I spend 5-10 minutes and I'm done.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Right? There used to be some great stories and comments now it all seems so white washed. Any vulgarity or dark humor more than likely gets you banned so does calling out Nazis.

    Some of the best stories found on reddit by all time wouldn't be allowed to be posted today. They remain to drive traffic. But post it today and they more than likely get removed and the user banned

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    They shut down third party apps. Now I like it better here :3

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    Killing the API, ads, astroturfing, AI posts, reposts, generally selling out.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago

    Api nonsense. The official reddit app is hot garbage. Mobile is barely usable, and only old reddit, which they are not supporting anymore.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Lemmy is much more representative how Reddit use to be and has so much more potential.

    I left Reddit as soon as I discovered this mostly
    Because Reddits shit algorithms, ads, and political moderation. Total enshittification.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Their API bullshit and then trying to use their official app... 🤮🤮🤮

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    The Reddit API murder. Although I do still use Reddit for specifically Heroquest and NewPipe.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    Reddit is currently actively supporting fascism. Before that, spez was just a customer unfriendly asshole.

    I left a long time ago when he killed all 3rd party support on purpose. The writing was on the wall but now you're just insanely late.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Fuck spez. That's why.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Third party app block

    I didn't want their crappy client.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    EMPRESS, a video game cracker sent me here. Too bad she left afterwards, I stayed after I discovered how it fits my needs exactly.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Empress lore never ceases to amaze.

    How did that happen?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm still baffled by the time she swiftly cracked DRM on Hogwarts Legacy, making it easy for critics of JK Rowling's transphobia to play without giving her a dime... but then filled the release notes with a transphobic/anti-woke rant. Girl, what?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    thats a very strange thing to do, you love her but not enough to pay her because you support the game.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    There are a lot of people who grew up loving the books but strongly oppose funding the author now that she's made transphobia a central part of her identity. Assuming one is OK with piracy, I don't see the conflict in wanting to play the game for free.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    App-ocolypse where they shut down 3rd party apps (made API prices prohibitively expensive and removed access to nsfw stuff like Ukraine war reporting) and a bunch of users and moderators left. I stayed for a few months to observe how the subreddits and tone changed towards a younger, more right leaning liberal politics with way more bots and AI dross while using mastodon before checking out Lemmy.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Killing 3rd-party apps drastically reduced my usage, but didn't convince me to leave.

    However, when just upvoting Luigi posts was declared a bannable offense, that was when I decided it was time to pack up.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    They banned me over some insanely trivial nonsense. I used a throwaway to get back in and then they perma-banned me. Actually insane much effort they put into enforcing these arbitrary bans.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I only use Reddit in a private browsing window. When they ban me I use a different browser to create a new email account. Then I reset my private browsing browser's settings to default to clear everything. Then I open another private browsing window and create a new Reddit account and I even have a browser script that automatically re-adds all my subs, which are the only thing I actually care about on Reddit, and I'm back in and using Reddit in less than 5 minutes. Account stays unbanned until I say one of the many, many things Reddit's auto-banning bots will ban you for. Can be a few weeks or a few months.

    If it was harder, I wouldn't bother. But it's pretty easy and I can be right back in as a big fuck you to Reddit. Also a fuck you to any mods that banned me from their subs cuz I'm back posting in them again.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    The issue I have with new Reddit accounts is that most of the big subs won't let you post unless you have sufficient karma, which I find galling.

    I'm told they also use Mac addresses and other telemetry to enforce blocks, which wouldn't surprise me as I've had fresh accounts opened in Brave in private mode that have been banned within a week or two.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    spez being a dipshit

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Reddit turned into a censorship hellhole

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The APIcalypse for me.

    Slightly concerned by how many people here managed to get banned from the entire site.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I got shadowbanned! And I don’t even know what I did.

    99.9% of my posting was in two places: technical testing in localllama and fandom geeking in thelastairbender, in spite of brain drain in both subs. I never even raised my voice in a post.

    I did post a Lemmy link, but that was well after my first shadowban I believe.


    Anyway, it feels like tons of technical and lore intelligence drained from these subs, so I feel like I’m not the only one who got shut out.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    I was permanently banned for life. I am not sure what I did except maybe wish for a perfectly natural health event occur for a certain evil public person. I did not consider that promoting violence or some kind of evil plan to incite violence. Basically, coronary artery disease is progressive and no one can do anything to stop it.

    When they provided the link to show me the post, it didn't lead to anything. I assume it was a bot or someone reported me. It made me realize that the internet has changed quite a bit when it came to forums. It was also probably a good thing although I did have a lot of Karma. Also, every subreddit had so many touchy rules, it was hard to keep track. I found Lemmy via C. Doctorow recommending it.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I got a permanent ban from Reddit because of my username (after 6 months on that account), which was very similar to my username here - they didn’t get the reference, and said it was promoting violence, even on appeal. Since the issue was my username, I tried to make a new account, and that one was immediately permanently banned for using the same email address (ban evasion). I tried to appeal, since the issue had been my username, and the new one had no violent words, but was of course denied. Since they also track IP addresses and device IDs, I decided that it would be silly to fast-track getting a new phone and/or computer for fucking Reddit, and started to look at the alternatives.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Left during the API bullshit. R.I.P. RIF:/

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I still visit Reddit occasionally for old niche tech support, but that's about it. Tried Voat but it was dead on arrival.

    Here's a list -

    Lose of RiF was the last straw.

    Inconsistent censorship.

    Mods targeting users.

    Promoted ads disguised content

    Hive mind comment bombing and down voting

    Lack of understanding or reason

    Gatekeeping by mods and users

    Spam bots

    Achievements and robot challenges

    Reposting/resharing the same memes over and over like it was new content.

    Reporting posts didn't seem to do anything

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Reddit went past the level of shit that I was willing to tolerate. What I find amazing is how little I miss it.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Getting randomly shadowbanned. Seemingly IP shadowbanned.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's worse, they use AI to detect your behavior patterns, so many datapoints to determine who you are, using a VPN is not only not going to help but triggers their detection systems, they do NOT like anonymity anymore, in direct opposition to how it started out.

    In the first handful of years you put in a new username a password and you were in, people had dozens of alts, now they def connects all of them and know which ones are you. Get banned on one you get banned on all, and they will be on the lookout for you and doing heavy analysis to make sure you can't get back in.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This. Even with a VPN, user agent spoofing, using LibreWolf and its anti-fingerprinting measures, etc. I couldn't get back in.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Yep I gave up even trying. Decided if they don't want a long time user I wasnt going to give them clicks anymore. I refuse to click anything reddit related now.

    I lurk lemmy but dont post like I did on Reddit . Been away from reddit for a year or two now.

    I just wish I could remember all my al accounti and their passwords. I would gladly go and delete all comments if I could.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The right wing sycophants running the and moderating the site.

    It's over run with right wing trolls and disinformation, but you get banned for calling it out

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    I use desktop, so the API stuff in 2023 didn't affect me. I planned to just avoid reddit for the blackout, but Spez's asshole comments about how it would blow over pissed me off. Seeing reddit become more and more enshittified in the years since, it turned out to be the right decision.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Bots. Bots every where. Bots moderating. Bots posting. Bots responding.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    I hadn't found PieFed yet.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    I found convos were more human.

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    reddit got worse, wanted alternative board.

    lemmy actually had people using it

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago*

    reddit isn't fun anymore. it's way too serious and full of weirdos who take everything super seriously.

    lemmy isn't as bad, but it's getting there. more and more weridos showing up here who want to harass you and ban you for not being like them.

    i was a reddit user since 2010, it was a great site until the 2016 election when it started rapidly going downhill and then massively accelerated after 2020 and now with the AI crap, they ban you for stupid reasons. I got banned in '22 for talking about my cat killing rabbits, because I was promoting violence, apparently. they unbanned me for the IPO, of course.

    It's a stupid place full of stupid people. lemmy has smarter people, but honestly that is really starting to deteriorate as more and more people come and they are dumb. way too many brainwashed people on here who think it's OK to scream at and threaten other users for differences of opinion. i will never understand people like that.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Bot banning.

    Sorry, I don't care to use a platform that auto-bans me for saying a few key words that in no way amount to breaking any site rules.

    Sites that auto-ban you for words that aren't slurs simply aren't worth anyone's time.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago*

    My subreddit voted to participate in the Reddit API blackouts in June 2023. When Spez doubled down on enshittifying Reddit, we voted to go dark until the situation improves, but Reddit never got better. Moving to Lemmy was not a popular option at the time, but I didn't want to stop posting, so I went to Kbin. !floatingisfun@fedia.io has been viewable on Lemmy and PieFed ever since.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    API drama caused Boost to relaunch as a Lemmy client

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