Peasants... (lemmy.world)
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[–] 106 points 9 months ago (28 children)

Best part is that it never gets old day after day after day af...

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  • [+] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The progress in the last 2 years has been nothing short of amazing.

    The KDE team, Wine, Proton, TKG/GE/etc have worked miracles for the Linux community.

    Also, shout out to Microsoft for spectacularly face planting in their move to Windows 11/CoPilot/Vibe coded OS development. Nobody deserves more credit for Linux's growth than Microsoft's complete failure to innovate as an operating system developer.

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  • [+] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 43 points 9 months ago (21 children)

    Can confirm, I'm using arch btw and every three pacman -Syu 's I run into issues that are new to me

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    One day I will figure out what other Arch users do and why my installation had not a single issue in the 3 years it has been running so far.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Jup. I think I've had some 3 actual issues the past 2 years on EndeavourOS. But the Endeavour team did a good job of warning me on Discord/RSS or at least provide tutorials and explanations afterwards.

    One of the issues was in regard to Grub (fixed by Timeshift rollback and a one-liner), one was in regard to some rogue Nvidia bug crashing the login window (fixed by Timeshift rollback and waiting a few days before updating again), and one was Nvidia removing support for GTX1000 cards and older (Nvidia, WHYYYYYYYY?!).

    For reference, I had what felt like similar annoying bugs (and much worse) on Windows 10 about every month, but without any useful support from Microsoft. :(

    EDIT: speaking of the devil. A fourth issue just popped up.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    and one was Nvidia removing support for GTX1000 cards and older (Nvidia, WHYYYYYYYY?!).

    Yeah this one REALLY sucked on my laptop still running a 960M. But hey, after the fix (which I think was just locking the driver package?) I just don't gotta worry anymore, so that's cool.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Usually it's graphics drivers going boom on update.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah but that was communicated in Archnews: https://archlinux.org/news/nvidia-590-driver-drops-pascal-support-main-packages-switch-to-open-kernel-modules/

    Sure the Arch or package maintainers could provide migration scripts for stuff like that (there probably are rolling distros who do that?) or when they split packages but usually you are fine if you read the announcements and act accordingly.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    The question was how they make the arch go boom by running pacman -Syyu and I gave the most probable reason. Thanks for hitting me with RTFM

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry that wasn't meant like that, I was just pointing out that that was at least communicated in Archnews which not everything is, for example the firewalld package split you have to catch in the package update warnings which is easy to miss.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yeah there's a lot of things you can do, but I bet most people just hit yes and go about their day, which is how they break their system. I've done it at least once (come back from vacation and pacman hits you with 300+ new packages), but also have broken arch by trying to install stuff by following old deprecated guides. It's not hard to break, but it's also very achievable to have a problem free time.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Heh, that's on you, bazzite here (was arch for a few years 4+ish years ago) can't remember the last time an update was problematic (oh, wait, 42->43 broke a distrobox, but I do that myself all the time, it's what they're for).

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    you know what distro I would choose if I were prone to tinkering at the expense of the system's month-to-month stability?

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  • [–] 62 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    4 days?

    Took me 4 seconds to realize I can actually use the super key and have my start menu pop up instantly and not watch it struggle to load 50 ads and tell me to download candy crush

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I have a couple of Linux machines, but I also use a MacBook. It's been a year now, and every time I use the Mac it kinda pisses me off that I have to hit Cmd+Space to bring up a search. It feels like a massive step backwards.

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago

    Well I know I'm superior because I don't use the OS that funds a pedo's STD collection via stock value.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    The first few days is where you realize "holy shit, there is another world I've been ignoring and it's so much more fun."

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I'm always somewhat confused by this, I haven't tried Linux since 2009 so maybe I just need to try it some more to appreciate what people mean by thks. I'd say it was "fun" in so much as it was nice to have a challenge for a little while but that was more sort of incidental to it facilitating my computer being a useful machine for me. In terms of it being a better operating system that does it's job efficiently without problems, shouldn't it be sort of... Invisible then? Like how can it be fun? I use my computer to do stuff so for me it's sort of like an operating system is only noticeable to the extent that it is bad and if it isn't bad I won't really be aware of it.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    Like how can it be fun?

    So many cool utilities are Linux native first, today.

    When I finally switched my work computer to Linux, various little tools I had been using were suddenly trivial to install, instead of maybe an hour each. I had restored my full favorite toolset in less than 30 minutes, and moved on to exploring things that never worked on Windows, for me.

    The combined feeling, for me, is like when my father user to hand me $5 to shop at our local 10Β’ candy store. "I can just have as much of this as I want."

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Well, invisible is how linux (mostly) is now, as opposed to windows which has become very visible and pushing and annoying by design. It is very refreshing to have an os which works and doesn't constantly annoy you with unwanted things.

    You should try it again, I am pretty sure your experience will be very different from 2009, because a lot has happened to linux since then.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    But see, doesn't that just mean it's a really good operating system? Not necessarily "fun"? I don't know if I'm getting my point across here. Think of a pair of shoes, there is much variation of form and design intent and pricing and capability but nevertheless they're pretty much all there to facilitate the task of walking. You could get a really bad pair of shoes that constantly dig holes in to your foot and fall to pieces and make walking a huge chore. Maybe some day someone will make a pair that somehow force you stop and look at billboards and ad displays, those would be your windows shoes. You could also get a great pair, that feels so comfortable you could forget you're even wearing them, they look great and they were a fantastic price and they never worsen your ability to perform the task of walking. They might even be such good shoes that they're suitable for all sorts of walking adjacent tasks like running as well, perhaps you'll enjoy running, again though what's fun there? Running? Or having shoes that don't make running difficult? I'd assume the former. That's what I tend to wonder about with the folks who talk about how much fun Linux is. I'm sure the various distros are really great operating systems that work way better than a lot of other options and don't have the same perverse incentives that keep those other options so consistently poor and for all those reasons it's a great choice but who's looking at operating systems thinking "this is going to be fun"? I'd love to have that same capacity to be so amused by it but it's hard to see it as anything other than a functional piece of equipment. I certainly will have preferences and appreciation for good equipment but I wouldn't think of it as fun. I have a similar reaction to people that say they like it because they want to tinker or "you can do anything you want with it", I don't want to yuk anyone's yum but, what would you even be trying to do with it?

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago

    And rightfully so. They might not know much about Linux itself BUT they did dare try and for that they deserve recognition.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I installed Linux on my PC this week, so yeah.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Spill the beans! What distro are you running?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I did the same for my home server. I've been Linux curious for over 20 years with very limited experience before I dropped my IT diploma. I went with Debian for pure stability and run xfce de.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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    Imagine being a Linux user and a vegan, it's absolute moral self-masturbation

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I want that feeling to disappear, by having Linux completely dominate the OS space.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Microsoft Linux is what you want.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, that's where I see it heading. And for all the good intentions out there, as soon as the corpos get involved, it goes to shit.

    I think we're a few principled maintainers away from standard enshittification of the Linux Foundation.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Without the β€žcorposβ€œ spending money on developing the Linux ecosystem, we wouldn’t be where we are today. Red Hat (systemd), Oracle, IBM made a lot possible. Apple took KHTML and turned it into WebKit, the browser engine bundled with GTK and Qt.

    Google managed to capture Linux with Chromebooks and Android phones. However their spending benefited others as well.

    Single maintainers can’t do much to stop a determined corporation with money from forking a component or writing a replacement. I remember how Debian maintainers spent immense amounts of time and energy into fighting about adoption of systemd to replace sysv init.

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    As it should be.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    Every day I use windows I find more that is wrong with it...

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Ive been Linux only for 3 years and I gotta say, I still can't convince myself to move to a stable release. Opensuse tumbleweed is just on another level.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Woo! Tumbleweed is fantastic. I agree! I used to only do creative/productive stuff with it, but I finally moved all my gaming over a couple years ago and it's been handling everything I've thrown at it, on Nvidia! Whereas Win10 was bluescreening Vermintide 2 and saying "This app is too old :(" for my older games.

    I think the only thing Tumbleweed wouldn't be great for, is capped Internet plans. X_X

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    There are a lot of "And rightfully so." comments here. And rightfully so.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Unironically me IRL. I switched to Bazzite from Win10 this year and it's been real smooth. I can't belive how easy the transition was.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Back in my day we had to manually install nvidia kernel modules. In the snow. Uphill both ways.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Back before I switched to linux it was how I (as a then Windows 2k user) looked at any version of Windows w/o the NT kernel. Now its how I look at people who still use Reddit.

    Maybe I just like to look at people that way.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    The few people I know that still use Reddit already used the Reddit app and the "new" interface before the API changes. I don't think they care too much to begin with (so yes, I also look at them that way)

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Its more you are at the cutting edge where the general public will be in a few years. The only time I don't see that happening is when I think of the tildeverse as that is more an offshoot than a evolution of the tech landscape.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I have been using Linux since almost 30 years. It took me almost a week to get X running, since it had to reboot to windows everytime I wanted to look something up or get help. Now I buy games on steam without checking if they run, because... they just do. :)

    Actually I don't need more people using Linux, I am happy with how it is now - no need to attract the attention of the malware industry. 😜

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I want everyone to have the benefit of Linux. It's not just about me. We'd then get those missing applications and drivers. And if anyone wanted to get away from the mainstream, there are distros just for that.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Ive used it for 30 years... :)

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    Loved that guy! Need to rewatch xfiles...

    I actually did rewatch it all a few years ago. Its quite good, but I see now as a older guy that David Duchovny actually wasnt very good playing Moulder. Didnt notice it as a kid but yeah, he is just reading lines with the same facial expression all the time. If you havent noticed, try rewatching with that in mind... :)

    Gillian Anderson is amazing though, really good actress and she was paid much less than Moulder, despite being able to actually act properly.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    he is just reading lines with the same facial expression all the time. If you havent noticed, try rewatching with that in mind… :)

    That's basically Duchovny's whole range, as far as I can tell.

    I think he was in some non-X-Files related movie. I never saw it, but I remember the commercial for it. Duchovny's character: "Are you here to kill me?" "Yes, are you worried?" "Just trying to plan my day." All deadpan.

    I got so tired of X-Files stringing me along. It reminded me of some women that I tried to date. I gave up after the first movie (yeah, the one everyone forgets about) - no answers there, either!

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Ten years and I still look like that.

    Helps that I have to use Windows at the office for a constant reminder of how shit it is.

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  • Exactly. You can't even do arithmetic in the search tool of a computer. I just tried to change Win + C to open the calculator, and while it says I can pick any application, the list of applications is actually just copilot! So I can have their useless search, or copilot, or copilot. Great

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You know, I have used DOS and various un*x (hpux, aix, irix, sunos/solaris, sco, bsd, minix, sVr4, others) in the 80s/90s, before linux and windows existed, so I'm looking at you like this, peasants!

    /s :)

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    I went to Linux at the beginning of the year and "had" to install windows onto a drive this past weekend, I've looked at myself this way in the mirror everyday since.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    And after 30 years, same thing.

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