This is probably where we find out why Signal insists on phone numbers to register.
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This guy permanently looks like he's having an existential crisis and I can't help but wonder if it's because he's metaphorically the only Jew left in the Nazi bar.
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Are you saying that, when they come for him, he will "present" himself to avoid being caught up and they will beat his ass, despite it?
It's because he's a minority and has to look "super serious" in front of the white guys to feel like he belongs.
Shouldn't this guy deport himself because he's not 100% American? His name and surname says it all.
My region's context, may be irrelevant.
I'm saying this because right at our border is a certain country famous for its beer has a prime minister that is Slovak and a leader of a certain political party is Japanese and he wants to solve illegal migration to their country.
"Don't protect yourself or others, even peacefully. You're obstructing the oppression."
He's keeping an eye on us, we just can't figure out which one.
A lot of "investigations" going on. Call me when they successfully bring charges
As others have mentioned, Signal is secure.
You need to set the group chat messages to auto-delete after a set amount of time. If you're really concerned, set it for hours instead of days. That way if these terrorists abduct you and force you to unlock your phone, they have a very limited pool of messages to view.
Boy I sure hope those people aren't using their real names or phone numbers...they should absolutely NOT be using Signal for this purpose. This kind of thing is why SimpleX exists.
joined the chats
Typically, law enforcement officers access Signal chats by obtaining a group chat member’s unlocked phone, being directly included in the group chat, or receiving copies from a participant.
From The Guardian: "The FBI has allegedly claimed that information related to the “courtwatch” Signal chat was given to them by a “sensitive source with excellent access” and said that they filed the report as a warning about “extremist actors targeting law enforcement officers and federal facilities.”
Signal itself Is secure. Like everything, however, human elements can still be penetrated. No protocol no matter how secure can protect you from a spy infiltrating a group, or a group member being coerced into handing over the content of the chats.
Signal itself Is secure.
I didn't say it wasn't. The problem is when exactly this happens and then people doxx themselves in the chat.
No protocol no matter how secure can protect you from a spy infiltrating a group
SimpleX protects you by not requiring a phone number, and by supporting multiple and anonymous accounts.
Or even PeerSuite for that matter, moreso if a PeerSuite session is additionally ran through an anonymous protocol like I2P, assuming that's possible. I mean, PeerSuite doesn't require an account, doesn't use servers, talks through encrypted WebRTC channels, and doesn't leave a paper trail by default, coordinating protests is a perfect use case for it because people could start up a session to plan said protest, and then close the session without a trace when they're done.
At this point, I don't even know why Signal shouldn't be used here. But I'm so sick of the stream of good apps that enshitify and get replaced by apps that also enshitify. I assume something like that has happened here. Is nobody left on this fucking planet that will stand up for the things they believe in?
don't even know why Signal shouldn't be used here
Because Signal does not support anonymity. If someone joins the group using their real name they also happen to use in their personal lives, they've just doxxed themselves and painted targets on their backs.
But doesn't Signal support disappearing messages? And end to end encryption? Meaning they'd need a recipient's phone in order to see them at all. Although, now that I'm thinking it through in this context of a big group chat full of people you don't/barely know, I can see the higher risk profile. So it's bad in this circumstance, assuming messages are persistent.
Disappearing messages are a client side convention, they are not part of the protocol, they cannot be enforced. There are signal clients that never expire messages, screen capture, archive, etc
Yeah, I used to be in a group where I'm pretty sure a couple people were informants or agents. A couple people would fed-post in the Signal group sometimes.There were leaks that showed the FBI was indeed "monitoring" the group. I suspect any lefty group is infiltrated is some way.
But doesn't Signal support disappearing messages?
Yes, and? It also supports screenshots.
Meaning they'd need a recipient's phone in order to see them at all.
Which is what they have.
I'm surprised screenshots are allowed in the app at all, that's indeed pretty shit.
By default they're not but I mean you could just pick up another camera and take a picture of the screen anyway, so you're not really preventing anything by disabling it.
Right, so how do the other solutions solve this problem then? Kinda undercutting your own security argument with ways that NOTHING is actually secure.
so how do the other solutions solve this problem then?
As I've already explained, by allowing for multiple and anonymous accounts without a phone number requirement.
They can take all the screenshots they want but there's nothing of value for them to target the participants.
Right now, there are 2 dead people in Minnesota and 7 dead people in ICE captive.
I don't give a fuck about federal agents when they are leaving a trail of bodies.
None of these actions by citizens are illegal. Way to waste tax payer money. So glad the swamp got drained and we're great again!
Bitch shouldn't you worry about the excessive use of force ICE is using? Stop wasting our time and money and investigate the murders and executions that are occurring.
Scared eye looking motherfucker.
Where are the Epstein files, you lowlife piece of trash?
Good luck trying to decrypt the texts
They’re hoping to be add to the chat by error
I see. Hopefully the group catches news of this
Its already been infiltrated. Been having people harassing us all week. Some bootlicker on Twitter found the names of all the dispatchers in one of the rapid reaponse groups and submitted it to the FBI.
Signal is secure. The issue here is this was a public group chat that some assholes joined.
Don't need to decrypt anything if someone gets caught with an easy phone unlock or flips. End to end means end to end. With the size of some of the groups and potential to infiltrate, I would assume that the comms are already compromised to one degree or another. If you get one of the ends, encryption means nothing. I bet kash's FBI just doesn't know who has it yet.
The metadata alone can give them plenty
Metadata is encrypted on signal
You're probably thinking of things like in-app metadata like message timestamps or internal signal protocol stuff or something... But that's not what I'm referring to.
For example, Signal and whatsapp can leak device and app activity (which can be surprisingly serious given most mobile AFU vulnerabilities)
And as an example by comparison: Session et al have better anonymity and transit-metadata obfuscation
To further explain what i mean: the Katzenpost network is being developed with post-quantum encryption and puts strong emphasis on metadata security... The latter is a significantly more challenging problem than just sending encrypted packets.
WTAF? Why is it assumed by this dickhead that agents get to operate in complete anonymity and secrecy?
While these "agents" are creating a database of people they are improperly labeling "terrorists"?
We pay for these assholes. We should know who the fuck they are.
Any evidence of any of these goons actually being harmed, mate? I'm thinking it's more likely they're using the information so their targets can avoid them.
Gonna run to every corner of the globe on this one. VPN’s can be a real MF’er sometimes 🤣
http://isdb4l77sjqoy2qq7ipum6x3at6hyn3jmxfx4zdhc72ufbmuq4ilwkqd.onion/
Get fucked Kash. You have no tools for simplex. White papers and audits on the website.
Probably the FBI stole someone’s phone, or they’ve joined the chat since the start.
Folks better start doing anti canary trap tactics. Once you shake the feds out, you can start composting.
Is it even possible? I mean, you need to share the chat, and probably have it publicly joinable.
Keeping feds out is basically impossible. Sharing the group only in person could work a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had undercover agents at any major gatherings.
Anti canary trap tactics? They work. It led to the Russian Revolution & Little Red books.
Ah, TIL. Though I can't really come up with much that would scale well to the modern world where technologies are involved. But that might be only because I'm not thinking local enough, since that's what matters.
However, I'm sure there's an anarchist zine about exactly that.
You cannot create a scenario that illegally entraps and puts law enforcement in harm’s way.
You don't understand - cocks gun - we are the victims here...
Patel always looks like he's a deer in the headlights. If only that car would speed up a little...
Are there any chats they can't investigate at this point?
We need a robust chat solution that doesn't store your fucking phone number in their database. They can investigate all they want if the software is written well, everyone's too focused on having support for a million stupid features though like stickers and gif library integration
It’s existed for years. Feds use it too.
Simplex has a psychotic dev who's trying to pivot the platform to crypto
Local spoke about their need to do this and use code names to avoid being followed and harassed by ICE after attending a protest. Probably shouldn’t have done that on a televised city council meeting. But also, Americans have a right to free speech and organized protest. Dark times.
Who is inviting the fash to the group chat?
Any large-scale group chat that has easy access is already infiltrated.
Any phone that isn't running GrapheneOS or a Linux OS outside of Android, is certainly compromised, and any sent, received or typed but not sent messages are accessible to the Gestapo.
FBI doing what it has always done best, serve the interests and wildly offbase fears of oppressive rightwing conservatism no matter how irrational and imagined they are.
The FBI exists to rationalize rightwing authoritarianism by supporting and supercharging xenophobic and racist narratives with an air of artificial legitimacy, they do not exist as an institution to serve the interests of public safety and neither can they said to be genuinely concerned with enforcing the rule of law they regularly flaunt and undermine.
Well, they’re probably happier being able to do this instead of what they’re normally tasked with: CSAM investigations and luring socially challenged people into terrorist conspiracies.
luring socially challenged people into terrorist conspiracies.
I want to say it's always this, but the guy I knew, it was 100% on him. He sought the buyer out, thinking he was selling weapons to a real anti-government militia. My doofus friend thought he had a great way to make money and that's to file off the serial numbers of rifles because that made them more expensive and totally wasn't a crime because it's only a crime when you get caught. So on his first sale, he filed the serial numbers off some stock ARs and sold them to the ATF, ranting the entire time about how easy it would be to do a drive by on those local government buildings and did they want to do this specific one they all happened to work in. He did not get convicted for the ramblings (because like all us theater kids he is a dipshit) but he got convicted for the serial numbers.
Funny thing, when we called up the college theater friends group, the conversation went "guess who's going to prison?" "well it's obviously not you, so that means it's Dave!" "yup! Guess what for?" "statutory!" "no! Somehow failing to run guns!" "oh thank God" with very single person, including when I got the phone call from Kristen and then we all were calling each other. Then we had fun telling each other what we thought each other would go to prison for (most people put me as environmental ecoterrorism because the government misunderstood an art installation I would somehow fail spectacularly to install. The key word in all descriptions of my crimes was spectacular)
Why are we allowing them to spend our tax dollars investigating things that aren't crimes? Jail these clowns for mismanagement of public funds.
And these are the idiots who are going to be the ones double-checking the investigation into the latest murder.
Seems legit :/


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