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[–] 49 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It already had a new owner which is why I stopped using it years ago.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Up until today I was happy with turning off updates (as a precaution) and restricting Nova's internet access (all phone network access is proxied through Rethink+), but this made me switch to Lawnchair and leave a 1-star review for both the free version and the paid upgrade token.

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  • [–] 121 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

    Once again the "Everything that's not FOSS will turn to shit at one point or another" theorem proves true.

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  • [–] 57 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And if a FOSS project turns into shit a fork will come up.

    One perfect example was simple apps acquisition. New owners turned it a ad ridden mess, fossify apps fork came to the rescue.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    nextcloud! mariadb! libreoffice!

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Mariadb got bought by a private equity strip miner company late 2024, so it will probably be mined for every enshittification possible before thrown on the garbage heap like every company private equity has acquired before it.

    (It always takes a few years of inefficient planning before private equity starts rolling out enshittification)

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but foss has its own problems. Mainly financing. People are expected to work for free on most open source projects, and some do because they enjoy it. I do that myself too. Its fun.

    But foss doesnt create products that require a lot of funding to get off the ground.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    There is something to be said about continuous community effort. Projects tend to continue even with original developers absent, sometimes for a very long time.

    One of my favourite games is STALKER, and boy does it hold a story and history behind the community. The eurojank game that was modded into an AAA looking survival game that was even published to GOG (STALKER GAMMA). Such project could've probably costed millions for a studio. Coincidentally, watched this video today, which briefly tells the history too: https://youtu.be/5C80TWlTC1o

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  • [–] 185 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    They got a new owner years ago. No one should still be using it. Lawnchair has been great for me.

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Holy shit the screenshots on Play store are depressing

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You want to use one of the much more recent nightly or beta builds.

    https://github.com/LawnchairLauncher/lawnchair

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    I ducked off the Nova train with their fishy new owners a few months ago. My one complaint about Lawnchair is that the search function is slower and less effective, otherwise it's great!

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    If anyone is looking to try something new - I really enjoyed WaterfallNiagra after dropping Nova.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Seconded. Looks good and I've found browsing by letter is way faster than the traditional folders (although you can still use folders with premium). I bought the upgrade after a few months.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I picked up Lawnchair when I de-googled my phone a bit more than a year ago. There were a couple launchers I considered, but honestly the name is what sold me. And I haven't missed Nova since.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Ahh sonofabitch! It's already updated for me and there is no changelog. Turned off auto update.

    Edit: and uninstalled. Lawnchair FTW.

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  • [+] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    This used to be my favorite piece of software I paid for. Then..... 💩

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    But I don't wanna redesign my nice app tray and home screen. Can I just never update it?

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    Yup. I've carried it over several phones, have the paid version.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    On 3, 2, 1,.... Everybody Juuuuuuump to any other good launchers

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Wow, I got scared, I thought that was the one I'm using but I switched to Niagara Launcher long ago

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  • [–] 81 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I'm getting really tired of companies pissing all over my name!

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I've been using lawnchair (which is a great substitute) ever since the news of the buyout from an ad company was announced, but that was a long time ago... Not sure why this is coming up now.

    Anyway, a few days back I found out a new launcher and I want to spread the love for it. It requires more effort to configure it at first but I'm really liking its UX and the simplicity of the screen. It is called dragon launcher and I am having a nice time making small incremental changes to personalize it more and more and has been working great for me: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.elnix.dragonlauncher

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck. I bought this forever ago, either for my Droid 2 or my Galaxy S3. Skipped it on my first Pixel and came back on the Pixel 7.

    Haven't really heard any talk about it, didn't know about the owner/dev drama until seeing some comments here.

    Haven't noticed any ads myself yet, but maybe that's a "coming soon" thing.

    Time to go launcher shopping again. This thread mentioned Lawnchair and Niagara, so I'll check those out first.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I recommend Kvaesitso, very snappy with lots of functionality.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I did try that when switching from Nova but it ran quite horribly on my phone. I've since switched to Olauncher and while the absolutely minimalistic style took some time getting used to, I don't want to go back anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Am I just not seeing it or do they not seem to allow icons on the desktop?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    they do? you go to the settings, home screens, and increase the dock rows.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I JUST STARTED USING IT TWO WEEKS AGO CMON

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Don't forget to leave a bad review before uninstalling it.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I just switched to Octopi. For me, it's an almost perfect replacement. Plus it's a local developer.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)
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    thanks for this table!

    Nova is rated as advanced customisability, and in this table Bridge Launcher is the only FLOSS launcher that has advanced customisability and is not discontinued, but based on the app page it's basically a programming platform, not an actual launcher :c

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    [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe after the big changes with the Linux desktop in the last year we might start to see renewed focus on a truly open source phone OS

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Thats why you want open source software, its the only software you can trust, its the only software that won't fuck you over

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Until these mfs relicense their sht and we have to fork

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    at least forking is an option you can choose, and someone else with decent reputation in the foss community will probably also do it before you, instead of just accepting being fucked up the ass with no lube for the third time this week

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Except when it goes from open source to closed lol

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago*

    At which point it simply gets forked from the last release/commit. Unless the project nukes all of the history and no one comes forward with a backup.

    And, they would typically need the consent of every contributor to legally change the license, unless they had been forcing contributors to sign over rights to their code before contribution.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I recommend dragon launcher or lawnchair

    dragon is now my favorite, the ring design is awesome and the dev is active, but lawnchair is the most like nova but open source.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Octopi Launcher is the best replacement. The developer is very active and listens to suggestions. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.otp.octopilauncher

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Fossify Launcher works well, that's what I switched to.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    I ditched them years ago after they got bought out the first time.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Dang... I saw this a while ago, but thanks to this post I looked again and it turned out that mine had automatically updated to the new version on Play Store. Went ahead and uninstalled it and then installed the latest Beta from before, and I was lucky that my email license still worked - don't know for how long though (not sure if the check is hardcoded in some way or if it makes an API call).

    It's had a great run, but it's just sad that it has to end like this. Would've been spectacular if it was open-sourced as promised.

    I started looking into alternatives and it seems like no other launcher is quite there yet, but Lawnchair looks promising for my use. The whole situation started looking like the appropriate time to learn some Android development; a while ago I was thinking of forking the AOSP launcher and trying to implement some stuff by myself, but now it seems like contributing to Lawnchair would be a better idea.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I've installed Lawnchair and I'm quite happy with it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I've tried it, but it's missing some things I'm used to - both functionally and visually.

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    Off the top of my head:

    • complex gestures (tap + swipe, two finger swipe/rotate)
    • frequent/recent/new apps in app search
    • app drawer tabs
    • icon customisation for folders
    • creating home screen shortcuts for activities (or if that's possible, I couldn't find it).

    Of course this shouldn't sound as a blame - I know Lawnchair is relatively young - those are a bit more advanced features that I grew used to over more than 10 years with Nova. When I manage to get a development environment running and some knowledge about Android, those are some of the first things I'd try to implement in Lawnchair.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    i like lawnchair launcher :3

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