The fact that a letter like this made it out at all says a lot about the current situation. Zero fucking adults in the room.
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Mr. Peace President: "I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace"
Is that fucking for real?
Holy shit I just looked it up. It's an actual letter sent by the US president. Below is a GIF (tenor.com) expressing how I feel about this:

The fact that none of his staff stopped him from sending such a petty child letter is just as bad as him writing this.
It's an actual letter sent by the US president.
A text sent, not a physical letter.
I'm American born and raised and here's the truth: whether by incompetence or malice, the United States' politicians handed over governance duties to corporations and, for my entire life, have made choices in direct opposition to its stated values.
My government is not your friend, or friend to me or anyone I have ever met. Since at least Reagan, and indisputably since """Citizens United""" it is a vessel for the primarily the military industrial complex.
The world would be in a better place if the US held to its espoused values of democracy and liberty, but although I've known many citizens who take these to heart in their daily lives, and are honorable and loving people, and imagine themselves members of the global community, in practice our government stands on these principles only so far as they are profitable for the military industrial complex, and for billionaires.
They have stripped hollow our education system and trampled consumer protection at every turn. They have at multiple times operated illegal concentration camps, and served as inspiration to the nazis themselves. They have waged death for oil and resources, in our name. When we stand against them, they imprison and kill us.
The world is deeply ill-served by a globally influential United States until massive systemic change occurs. They must give us ranked choice voting. Curb the supreme court. Enshrine systemic balance in policy, not gentlemen's agreements. Until then, ice us the fuck out and save yourselves from our lunatic leadership.
With you. It's so lost at this point it'll be painful to fix it. Very painful.
We don't need the US to reform itself and be good. We need the US gone from the world.
Only then, there will be peace
Jesus fuck. Grown a spine.
What you wrote is the very reason you are in the situation you're in. Americans are pathetic spineless worms.
Be the change you want to see or shut the fuck up. Stop making excuses. You need to put in the work.
What do you expect this 1 person to do? Are you expecting us to kamikaze 1 at a time? That seems to be the sentiment I'm seeing everywhere. "Fuck you pieces of shit for not changing your country" when the pieces of shit have done everything they can within their sphere of influence.
I'm sure you've seen the uproar from 1 woman trying to do something. She was immediately executed for attempting to make a change. The legwork is being put in, just look up Minneapolis. They're fighting back, but soon the military will descend upon them and I'm sure as you've heard, the US military is very effective. What do you think will happen once our own military takes out all the "others" aka the pathetic spineless worm you replied to?
Fuck off, you're just throwing a tantrum at this point. I'd like to see you take on the US military.
What do you expect this 1 person to do?
They can start by not being a sobbing wimp and pushing off all blame onto others. His entire post is "they" and not "we".
He is part of the problem and not owning up to it.
If you're actually interested in motivating action you should start by considering that maybe it's possible people are trying and that there are entrenched systems of oppression that dull their impact, or its visibility to you. And that you don't know everything about what someone is doing based on what you've personally seen online.
If all you're interested in is browbeating strangers to vent your frustrations in the guise of productive discourse, by all means, carry on.
If all you’re interested in is browbeating strangers to vent your frustrations in the guise of productive discourse, by all means, carry on.
Sorry. You're right. I'm being mean.
I've completely forgotten the USA is the best country the world has even seen. Americans are the best people in the world. Hardworking, bootstrap, god-fearing, titans of industry who deserve nothing but praise, ass kissing, and baby talk.
I'll promptly correct my globe to say "Gulf of America" and order a bunch of useless bobbles off Amazon to atone for my sins.
Still don’t see you taking on the US military. Please do by all means.
If the US crosses the Canadian border, I 100% will take on the US military.
Here is the thing. I know my death won't win the war, but I can use it to stop a few Nazis. That's enough for me.
Are YOU willing to die for what you believe in?
That’s a lot of talk about dying. You ever been in combat? It pretty much sucks. The US is a Cleveland Steamer and I won’t raise a finger to defend it. I will become friction in the gears. Whenever and wherever I can without putting my family at risk.
That’s a lot of talk about dying. You ever been in combat?
No, I've never been in combat. I'm also not talking about being in combat or part of the military. I don't have the personality for the military.
I'm talking about old fashioned, grass roots, guerrilla retribution. I'm not afraid to die and I'm ready for it.
No plans now, but if the US crosses the Canadian border, I'm sure many opportunities will present themselves.
The minute Americans started their 51st state bullshit, I got angry. I know many other Canadians feel the same way.
If they try it, my plan is to be remembered.
Sorry your country isn't showing you the work people are putting in over here then. I'll bet that you, without a sense of irony, think it's shitty that all Americans are racist or something, because it's bad to judge large groups of people poorly over the actions of only some of that group or believe in stereotypes.
Eat shit ya judgemental bastard.
Eat shit ya judgemental bastard.
As you judge me. LOL.
Also, it's spelled judgmental.
Weird, my auto correct on the phone did it both ways, so maybe it's a dialect or something. Too bad I'm illiterate.
Can't even tell the difference between judging a person by their actions and judging people by where they're from, tsk tsk. And here I thought our education system was bad.
You need to not be a dick to people. How about you grow a pair of balls and go to America and change all the bad that’s going on there? Pretty easy, right? Be the change you want to see or shut the fuck up.
I work with politics in Canada. I hold fundraisers. I support social programs. I volunteer. I door knock for awareness. I'm putting in the work in Canada for Canada.
I've already said many times if the US crosses into Canada I'm more than willing to blow my shit up to take down a few American Nazis. I'm willing to die for my country to defend it.
I AM the change I want to see and I'm ready to give my life for the change.
Shut the fuck up until you go demand your government do anything but cower in fear. You've absolutely nothing at risk but 300m Americans actively being suppressed are spineless cowards? Give me a fucking break
The abuser's "look what you made me do" is so sickening.
As an American, I'm not just embarrassed, I'm pissed. This is so fucking stupid and the fact that there are still people who like this guy is just disgusting
Holy fuck it’s real. Cock-a-fucking-doodle-ass-shit-sucking-ball-fuck it’s real.
I need a drink.
What? I thought this was a shitpost for sure. In what world can this be real? Surely this can't be real. Please tell me it's not real.
The prime minister of Norway has confirmed it and said that he has told Trump multiple times that it is not Norway who grants the Nobel prize. He even said that he'd gladly tell him again although he already has.
Trump has said on Sky News that he doesn't believe him 🤦
OK, that's it for me. I can process a lot, but this is the point where I'm checking out. Trump is now sub-toddler level stupid and I don't know how to mentally deal with the fact that he's also the commander in chief of the US army. How is no one stopping him? How does this keep going on? I have no answer for that and any honest answer might shatter my sanity.
Trump has said on Sky News that he doesn’t believe him 🤦
I'd say I need a steadying drink after reading that, but if I took a drink every time trump said something insane my liver would have perished long ago.
The sad thing is, he has to not believe that, as otherwise he'd realise he's been a fool, and his ego cannot counternance that.
Do bears shit in the woods?
Does Trump rape children?
Would Stephen Miller kill hookers if he had enough upper body strength?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-letter-greenland-nobel-peace-b2903022.html
I'm an American and I'm kinda tired of hearing my countrymen apologize and say they are embarrassed. Were over a year into this and waaaay past the time to say that kinda shit. We shouldn't be embarrassed, we should feel ashamed and angry. And we shouldn't apologize, we should be actively finding ways to make a change no matter how small.
I know there are plenty of other Americans that probably lurk on communities like this so I'm mostly saying this to them. And the only reason I'm saying this is because about half the time I see other Americans apologize and say how embarassed they are it often seems like it's a way to say "see? I'm one of the good ones." None of us are the "good ones" anymore unless you are actively putting in the work. It doesn't matter if you didn't vote for him because he's still the president. People have died, continue to die, and will die in the future because of this man and he's doing all of it in our name. If Trump actually causes a global conflict with his bullshit we will not be blameless when the dust settles and our country will have to pay for this regardless of who you voted for.
Practical recommendations on what we can be doing to create positive change in our country?
Nothing is going to be easy, but the rest if the world is looking to you, the American people, to, at least, blunt this problem as you're the only ones with the power to do so without a conflict that us likely to go global.
The poison goes deeper than just trump though. It'll take a societal level change to truly fix, so general strikes, protests, civil disobedience and such are all good, but actually just finding ways to reach the huge chunk if the electorate that doesn't seem to care about it, and bring them round to seeing the problem would make a huge difference. Talk to the disengaged folk around you, find ways to help them and gain their understanding. That way it's not just the ardent against an apparently rising tide of fascists, but a majority rising up against the evil within. Fascism wins for only as long as it can portray itself as strong. Humble it with numbers.
We need to do something, yes.
Engaging the apathetic won’t work. Changing the minds of MAGA won’t work. Using our existing system will not work.
The dollars need to burn to awaken the wrath. To do that most likely requires significant violence. Various nations hold their own leverage with US bonds. Those nations need to recognize that those bonds are junk anyway, and will be worthless.
We (humans) are all going to feel a lot of pain from this. It will not be isolated to the US. MAGA will lash out with global violence. Russia, Israel and other bad actors will use the opportunities too.
I want to act. I have been racking my little brain about how. The only organizing happening is for the traditional avenues of change. Should I be lone wolf? How do I shutdown the financial markets? I have no money. I don’t know how to hack, or make and use energetics. The levers that need to be pulled are out of my reach at the moment, but not out of the reach for some other nations. Pull the fucking levers!
You are looking at this as some massive and dramatic plot that only states can possibly influence, and will necessitate massive violence. Your last paragraph shows the inevitable conclusion of that misaprehension, you cast around for a solution you, individually, can implement, find none, and sink back into paralized inaction. Functionally, you give up. Thus is exactly what fascists require of you. Thus is how they remain strong, and prevent dissent.
The truth is, it's smaller actions that will have the real effects. If trump were to drop dead this minute, the fascism would not end. It might receed as they regroup, but has sunk deep into American life now. It is that societal malaise that is driving this, and trump and his cronies are just symptoms of it. The only way that will change is by the steady, hard, work of individuals like you reaching out to the people you can reach, helping them to see that there is a better way, and helping them embrace it. It is by building a groundswell of support like that, that the poison can be neutralized and American life brought back from the brink. In doing so, you deprive fascism of the one thing it mist needs: the appearance of strength.
You say "Engaging the apathetic won’t work" as though it us a truism, but as trump pushes further, as the economy breaks down further, as their friends, neighbours, and loved ones disappear, as life becones less tolerable, it becomes harder to ignore it all, and those who were apathetic will find themselves looking for a solution too. Leave them, and they can easily be swept up by those offering the illusion of strength and power. Instead you, and people like you, need to be talking to them, pkanting the seeds of doubt in their minds, showing them that this is all a sham, that there is a better way. Build support, and support each other. As the numbers grow it will become less and less comfortable for those who support fascism to express that in public. This is going to be rough, but it doesn't have to be cataclysmic.
American fascism will fall, of that I am certain. The only questions are when, and how much damage it does in falling. If enough of the American public can find common cause and work together they can bring that moment forward, and minimise the damage. Fail to do so, and there might not be anything recognisable left afterwards.
We have been trying to reach the apathetic for many years now. Most won’t be moved until they feel pain. Everyone’s retirement is dependent on the status quo. People will wake to action when they now have no comfortable future. I feel so crazy and depressed after trying reason with these folks for a near decade now. I think most would remain docile fucks no matter what happens to others. They need to feel the pain personally. Strip them of their retirement and healthcare.
I know this won’t go away with his death. We need to gut the wealthy. Special attention to all the top player’s family trees. Uproot them, and burn every leaf. Their wealth should have no person, or institution, alive to use it. Burn down their estates. Scuttle their yachts. Destroy every place of posh pleasure. This action needs to happen worldwide too
Can you please point me to some knowledge about how often just getting the common class to be on the same page lifted them out of oppression? When has fascism ever been so easily squashed?
It’s unbelievable difficult when they have you at the throats financially. I don’t think you fully understand this until you in the middle of it. Being the primary provider for my daughter, I have basically two options. One is to work on a way out so she can have a better life (current plan) OR to risk that she will be an orphan by actively going against the government as everyone outside of US expects. If you have your own children, take a minute to really think if you okay with your child becoming an orphan or homeless, because that’s the reality here. Even posting this risks my employment, as freedom of speech is long gone. This is just my opinion, and does not reflect the opinion of my employer.
That plus what little healthcare we have is tied to employment. If I didn’t have a family I’d be more aggressive. I do have a family and will defend them if it comes to it, but aside from protesting (didn’t do shit) and bitching at my representatives I’m out of viable ideas.
I’m open to suggestions that don’t end with me or mine dead.
Organize. Stay pissed off and motivated. Do not capitulate and stay silent.
And for fuck's sake: we all need to stop buying/paying for shit that funnels money to the fuckers. It's amazing how much we spend on crap we don't actually need and that really doesn't add to our happiness.
Stop using these asshole's products. If we're so god damn weak we can't deal with a little discomfort and inconvenience we deserve no sympathy.
little discomfort and inconvenience
I think you underestimate, or refuse to recognize your internal reasoning about level of pain that will be felt. Many of us are going to die. We have to accept that there is no correction without fundamental, and violent change. You will not have a 401k after the ball gets going.
I'm talking about the unwillingness to even take even a little action now. E.g. "I can't even be fucked to cancel subscription services, write to my representatives, or attend a protest on my time off."
I'm saying that someone who can't even bother to do the bare minimum because it's slightly uncomfortable and inconvenient deserves everything they'll get -- they're useless, pathetic cowards.
This is the thing that fucking sucks. my wife recently got diagnosed with a pituitary tumor and possibly is about to be diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy. We've got 3 autistic kids that are varying degrees of developmentally disabled. We live off SNAP and her disability benefits and they rely on me for care.
So like, what the hell am I supposed to do here? I'm not in the greatest physical health myself, but I could be out there doing something. But if I get arrested or killed protesting this regime, who is going to take care of my family? It really feels like all I can really do is use my cameras to keep watch in my neighborhood in case ICE ever comes around here to harass my neighbors and hope that I can get enough of my neighbors together to run them off if they do.
So sorry to hear about your wife. Hoping for all the best in her recovery. I’m a firm believer you got to do what is best for your family, especially the kids.
I don’t know the answer. I think what needs to happen next will inevitably lead to great disfunction in healthcare, and many are in your position. It very much feels like they have us by the balls with a pair of scissors.
I wonder how he still got 40% approval rating.
"My grandpa voted republican and I will too! It doesn't matter who, if they're republican, they've got my vote. Can't have the blacks moving close to me, ya know? Might steal my chickens" - them, probably. Lots of low-effort voters voting republican cause that's what folks 'round here do, ya know?
When I still tried to reason with my father, he would exclaim that he cannot break from the views of his father. This happened whenever answering one of my questions would trap him in acknowledging reality. He acted like it was disrespectful of his parents. He always doubles down upon feeling cognitive dissonance. It hurts my heart.
I can tell you my experience from working with them. The common traits:
They've never left their bubble of people that look and think like them. Even the ones with college educations only socialized with people like themselves while in schools. They never leave their comfort zone.
They're emotionally and socially immature. Those aspects of their personality stopped developing in their teens. They still act like teenage bullies and mean girls.
Their "news" consists entirely right wing propaganda. Social media, FOX "news", etc. They're addicted to outrage and they lack critical thinking skills.
I have an uncle that's a Trump supporter in rural Minnesota. As of a couple days ago, he had no idea that anything special was going on with ICE in Minneapolis. He's completely checked out, but forever loyal to Trump because Democrats "kill babies".
I didn't think anyone could make Kim Jong Il (or Kim Jong Un) seem comparatively rational and genius in a single note.
The kims all understand political philosophy at the very least. They're intellectuals well read in socialist theory (or, at least, il-sung was. The others I can only assume). For the most part they can run a country most of its people like smoothly
I got a bit depressed when after reading it the only thing that seems weird is the capitalization of some words. Why "8 Wars PLUS"? Why "Total Control"? And why the PLUS? does it mean at least 8, maybe more? Isn't he sure how many wars he ended? Is it an acronym?
It's truly terrifying somebody with the reasoning skills and restrain of a toddler has access to nuclear weapons, but even worse that so many people still support him.
The only thing that seemed weird was the lack of asshole tabloid headline writer styling?
That’s the only thing?
What's so terrifying about the results of democracy?

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