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[–] 38 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's the part of this which is most upsetting for the lamb.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So the eating of the meat is okay, but joking about it is over the line?

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Headlines often frame moments for shock, but context usually tells a much fuller story than a single clip or quote.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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    Yeah outrageous! We have the animals transported, killed, slaughtered and packed behind closed doors so no one buying meat would have to feel guilty. This way the product has no affiliation to a living animal. Why would he do this, now Gen Z/A might think meat comes from animals. This will cost the meat industry money so he might end up with a horse's head in his bed.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    We're still trying to figure out when/how/what it will be like when we teach our kid where her food comes from.

    At the moment she likes to eat beef and shout "THE COW LOLA" (not at the same time). going to be fun when we tie the two together.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    "Wait, does chicken come from chickens?" said my daughter, "How did we know they would be so tasty?"

    We had already told her beef and milk comes from cows, just hadn't thought about pointing out the obvious one.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    My family raised cattle. Whenever I asked where the beef came from, my grandfather explained it was usually the older heifers, or the one that refused to obey the training (which usually happened as they got to 3 or 4 years). I had a very sad moment when I remembered one would nuzzle and lick my face and realized I hadn't seen it in a year or so (I was 5 or 6).

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    How old is yours? Mine is nearly 4 and has figured it out. It helped that, when we went on vacation, the supermarket sold complete chicken with the head and feet still attached, and cow tongues and pork feet and things. We even pointed out a pig brain for him to look at. It also may have helped that is favourite food is snails, mussles, squid and small fish with their heads attached (fried anchovies, he calls them eye fishies). All pretty recognisable on a plate!

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    you must be doing a great job with their nutrition. Mine's 2 1/2 , so we're just about arriving at full sentences, so not quite yet :)

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Eh, not really. We have only very recently cracked the code to getting him to eat any veggies aside from cucumber. Before that he would usually just eat meat, fish, potatoes and rice. Anything green would lead to drama. We showed him Popeye and how the spinach made him strong. Now, anytime he eats his veg he gets to "pick me up" and throw me on the couch. It's been three weeks and he still likes doing it so, fingers crossed! 😄

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Good to know you guys are still adapting,ours generally eats most stuff but sometimes she hesitates with shredded meat and that makes that particular mealtime forever, but she eats her food.

    Also there are some things she obviously prefers like crackers.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I had to have this chat with my daughter as a surprise when she saw a pig on a spit. Couldnt duck it or deflect... had to handle it on the spot.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe lying to your kids is indicative of a deeper problem (carnism).

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Well, I kinda get it. We can tell kids how babies are made, but we don't have to go into certain details or say "Sorry Timmy, Mommy and Daddy are going to go try to make a baby sibling for you now!"

    There's also the perspective that we should value animal lives and appreciate that we are choosing to sacrifice them for our privilege of enjoying their meat.

    But yeah, this is pretty silly "outrage".

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, best way to get parents/relatives to shut up about you having kids is to describe the process in detail to them.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Just tell them you're incapable of having children, add a few tears and they'll never bring it up again.

    When/if you get some, tell them you lied, and just wanted them to shut the fuck up, because it wasn't their business.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The average persons outrage can fuck right off on this one.

    This is the reality of it, if this behavior upsets you go vegan. Because the only difference between the one he picked and the ones he didnt is probably a few extra days before they were processed NOT for a celebrity chef.

    When I eat meat I know where it comes from, I'm not going vegan but you DO NOT WASTE ANIMAL PROTEIN in my house, partly cause of this and partly because its expensive as fuck.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Going vegan is definitely the way to, but meat is still highly subsidized because otherwise people couldn't afford the meat they don't need. So then you are vegan and help people to afford meat, which doesn't seem right to me.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Are you really comparing sex to torturing and murdering animals?

    Personally that's not how I do it, but I understand the society that I live in.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (26 children)

    Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (21 children)

    We got here as a species by tasty tasty meat. Some steak fries and light salad are optional.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    I think that has mostly been debunked. Even the hunter gatherers were much more gathering than hunting, in the big picture. And fishing is probably more relevant than meat (if we're making that distinction). And later it was really agriculture that made our species what it is and it's very much the grains (and rice) that made the big difference.

    Not a vegan btw.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I think you are giving a very eurocentric description of early humanity

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    I agree. Still, the distinction is a very cultural one. So many cultures, even civilisations can trace their beginning back to a coastline or river. Hunting things like mammoths was actually quite rare, but it makes for better stories. Taxonomically there isn't even such a thing as a "fish".

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    I eat meat, but this is stupid as f.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    This is actually a quote I picked up from a t-shirt once produced by Ryan North, creator of Dinosaur Comics, that amused me and stuck in my brain. Are you calling Ryan North, creator of Dinosaur Comic stupid as fuck? Because them's fightin' words.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Umm sure why not. fuck that guy and his little dog too

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    So you got here by veggies alone?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    We are this thing called "omnivores." If your brain worked, you might bother to find out what that means. It would revolutionize your whole existence.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Dude. You have some kind of problem with steak fries and a salad? That is not meat by the way but pootaaato and lettuce. My existence is one of understanding and comprehension but yours is not.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm starting to think you're trolling me. But in case you really are this stupid, I was reacting to this part of your statement: "We got here as a species by tasty tasty meat."

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Peak carnist brain. Sniffing their own farts too long.

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    [–] 30 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    You guys don't look at live animals we eat the meat of the same way a fox looks at a chicken?

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago* (11 children)

    Funny how English has

    "Beef", "Pork", "Lamb"

    when in some languages its just

    [The Word for the Animal]+[The Word for "Meat"]

    Literally, your language influences how you think.

    My "native" languages are Cantonese and Mandarin and I always knew where the meat came from, like its literally in the word itself. [牛肉,豬肉,羊肉]

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  • [–] 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Lamb just means young sheep. The dinner version for sheep is mutton.

    This language quirk for calling the meat version of an animal different comes from French influence, when the English aristocracy spoke French in court. Beef, pork and mutton comes from the Old French words buef, porc and moton. Which just means ox, swine and sheep.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You say that but so you have any idea how long it took my daughter to realize Chicken, the animal, is the same as Chicken, the food?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    in french it's just the name of the animal. Here's a cow. eat cow. A pig ? eat pig.

    Maybe it makes it easier to mentally link together the live animal and its meat.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Funny how English has

    Those are not actually English words. "Pork" is from French at least. It's a euphemism for the english "swine". Meat is a luxury for the extremely privileged.

    Youtube short on topic: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/63DYCz9P1XM

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Even if you do choose to eat meat you don't exactly have to be gleeful about the animals death.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    "I cOuLd NeVeR bE vEgAn!"

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I got into hunting specifically to bridge the gap - if I’m not willing to kill the animal myself, why am I ok eating the meat? Turns out I didn’t have any issues killing a couple deer, but sitting in a tree stand in the cold at 5am wasn’t quite my cup of tea.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I can't fucking stand Gordon Ramsay. I grew up with an abusive stepfather. I think the difference is when the abuse is from one's actual parent, it starts earlier and is internalized as normal. My stepfather wasn't in the picture until I was five, so I already had an established personality, such as it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Is he the one who is slaughtering what he picks? Because making a show of it and having someone else kill it isn't so much better than a bunch of tweens pouting on social media. The tweens can at least claim ignorance

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    He may have some flaws but the man can butcher meat. He is famous for his knife skills.

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