Israel’s foreign ministry has accused the New York mayor, Zohran Mamdani, of pouring “antisemitic gasoline on an open fire” after he reversed a recent order by the outgoing mayor, Eric Adams.

“On his very first day as @NYCMayor, Mamdani shows his true face: he scraps the IHRA definition of antisemitism and lifts restrictions on boycotting Israel. This isn’t leadership. It’s antisemitic gasoline on an open fire,” the foreign ministry said in a post on X.

Mamdani revoked an Adams-era order that adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism, which the previous administration said included “demonizing Israel and holding it to double standards as forms of contemporary antisemitism”.

Israel’s response came hours after Mamdani issued an order to rescind all executive orders that Adams issued after he was indicted on federal corruption charges in 2024 – charges that were later, controversially, dropped.

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[–] 187 points 10 months ago (23 children)

Pardon my French but WHAT THE FUCK does Israel’s opinion on the mayor from a city half way around the globe have to do with anythingv

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    New York City has 8.4m people in it; 15% (1.3m) of them are Jewish, making them a key cultural and political group. New York City also has an outsized (if dropping) cultural and political influence on the US.

    There are 7.3m Jewish people in Israel, and NYC is the largest population of Jewish people outside Israel, meaning that NYC actions and opinions may have more of an influence within Israel than opinions from elsewhere.

    NYC is also seen as a huge, vibrant, peaceful, multicultural city; the longtime headquartering of the United Nations there, the largest financial capital in the world, etc - all give it an emotional and cultural impact.

    Here's the thing: when Americans look at Mamdani's election, we see a rejection of the current US political parties, a pushback against the oligarchs, late-stage capitalism, and the corruption and fascism of the right. For most of the people (at least on the US center and left) Mamdani's religion doesn't factor into much (if anything).

    For a certain segment of Jewish Israelis who heavily lean into that identity, the election of a Muslim mayor is a threat, especially one as driven and charismatic as Mamdani. And there's a political class in Israel who is willing to promote and exploit that fear, in order to gain their own goals, whether that's increased political power, more money, or simply avoiding going to prison.

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  • [–] 82 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    NYC has the largest jewish commiunity outside israel, many of which anti-zionists, and it shows how people of different faiths can co-live peacefully, so you can see why isreal wants to influence our politics

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    breaking my hiatus to say this:

    New York is the present day Lviv in what it meant to Jewish identity before the rise of zionism following the Odessa Pogroms. israel knows this. they want to re-evoke the origins of their movement. they want to control what it means to be Jewish.

    but Jewishness is defined for a lot of Jews not by our connection to Levantine soil, but instead our opposition to oppression. fuck zionism forever. and fuck its need to reignite hate against semitic people to create a self fulfilling prophecy that we cannot be safe in our own communities.

    israel is pharaoh.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    It's clear why they want to but why are our news outlets amplifying their messages. They shouldn't be

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    The Guardian, which isn't a US site, highlighting Israel's misdirection and dishonesty

    “our news outlets amplifying their messages”

    Ah yes. Well noticed there, gewd jerb.

    P.S. Apparently you're not aware that I can see you downvoting every single comment of mine, as if that helps your ridiculous stance in any way. So far you downvoted three of my comments that have nothing to do with this thread.

    P.P.S. This loser is going through my whole comment history downvoting the comments.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The Guardian has been massively pro-Israel for most of their Genocide in Gaza and even now that they toned down the very overt support for it, still uses two-tiered language when it comes to Israel and Palestinians, such as using "says" or "states" for statements from the former whilst for the latter using "claims", reporting on deaths by saying that Israelis "were killed" whilst Palestinians merely "died", describing attacks on civilians as "terrorism" if done by Hamas but not if done by Israel and, more generally, using the kind of language towards Israel that produces the impression of them being "righteous" and "one of us" whilst for Palestinians languages that dehumanizes them and/or produces the impression of them being "criminals" and "not one of us".

    Further, The Guardian is pretty much "The Voice Of The English Upper and Upper Middle Class", who are definitely people siding with American fatcats same as they side with their own fatcats and with pretty much the entire elite privilege-preserving infrastructure over there (their coverage of The Royals is the very definition of "fawning").

    They're basically the British equivalent of the New York Times.

    So yeah, it's absolutely logical to suspect that The Guardian are purposefully "amplifying their messages" because that's something entirely consistent with how they've always treated Israel.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    I know they are a uk based news outlet but they are popular here and market to Americans like they expect us to read it and they still aren't Israeli so what's your point?

    Also it not just this paper reporting this crap it's nonstop.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    Oh no! A UK-based news outlet dares to write about things happening outside of the UK, unlike every other news outlet in the world. And they've become popular in the US, how dare they! This definitely means they're ‘our’ US news site, like every cowardly and duplicitous US news outlet, which is all of them.

    And they're also still ‘aren't Israeli’, whatever the fuck that means despite The Guardian consistently criticizing Israel's attempts at the inflammatory foreign policy and comments, and you being deliberately blind to all of that. So what does your incoherent drivel mean?

    P.S. I can still see you downvoting my unrelated comments, dummy.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I was saying that a news outlet that I used to respect is using their platform to amplify the propaganda of a hostile foreign leader. I don't understand what your problem is with that. Maybe you just have problems in general?

    I said "our news outlets" because this is a place I normally get my news you fucking idiot.

    I was expressing disgust with the paper I read. But you really got me!

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    amplify the propaganda of a hostile foreign leader

    Not only you're dumb beyond belief as to interpret things as that, but of course you also downvote every comment of mine here and there as if they have anything to do with anything, like that helps your argument in any way.

    Please continue to spout ridiculous nonsense as to how any site you ever visited is “your news outlet”, that will surely fortify your view.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds like you are just a Zionist anyways. Probably a "settler".

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Oh yeah, anyone who downvotes your nonsensical drivel any time per your hundreds of downvotes is a 'settler'. Just like it works with Israelites. But somehow you're not one of them asswipes hijacking actual constructive discussion, are you? No, you're just one of the incoherent clowns repeating the same accusations against people opposed to actual political discussion, aren't you?

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    Israel is an important and well-intergrated piece of the US empire so they get a say in how the empire is run. Working class new yorkers don't matter in the same way.

    To translate into the lies of empire: israel's importance to foreign policy goals and deep cultural ties make it an interested commentator on domestic politics.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Why does the mayor of NYC need to have an opinion of Israel? He's not the Secretary of State

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    You should know that the former NYC mayor banned criticism/divestment of/from Israel thus creating a domestic law about a foreign nation. Mamdani is simply removing that domestic law and thus erasing a foreign nation from New York's governance dictionary.

    He is actually doing what you are asking for.

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  • [–] 110 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Israel accuses X of antisemitism

    I wonder how many people, like me, have just completely stopped paying this headline any attention. Oh, there they go again, calling someone anti-semitic. Was that like the person I heard who said something totally legit that was supposedly anti-semitic, or was that like the Jewish group that was supposedly anti-semitic?

    Boy, stop crying wolf.

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago* (10 children)

    The thing about this that is really fucked up is that this watering down of the term is giving cover to actual anti-semites who really do hate jewish people no matter who and where they are.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    Yep. I see it in myself, even. I mean, what is someone supposed to do? Today, it's very common that someone is accused of anti-semitism who is nothing of the sort, so I have to ask, "are they actually anti-semitic, or did they just say something pro-Palestinian, or anti-Settlements, or anti-war-crimes?" And it's not like every time I ask that I can go and find the answer, so often it casts genuine doubt, and some of the time, that doubt is miscast.

    Netanyahu and his government need to get in the fucking sea.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago*

    As I haven't tired of pointing out, rising anti-Semitism around the world serves Israel's interests by encouraging Jewish people to move there to escape it. I'm pretty sure that stoking anti-Semitism is intentional on Likud's part.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Actual neo-Nazis and antisemites are having a field day since they can openly say their anti-Zionist shit, and for once it aligns with what the general public is saying, because Zionists are disgusting invaders committing genocide. (For any crazies in the comments, Hamas is maybe more disgusting for their tactics and extremism, but they're punching up against invaders.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    For any crazies in the comments, Hamas is maybe more disgusting for their tactics and extremism, but they're punching up against invaders.

    The more Israel genocides, the more Hamas seems sympathetic/justified, kinda like Saw Gerrera in Star Wars.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    kinda like Saw Gerrera in Star Wars

    Its almost like the writers were trying to say something about the nature of oppressive empires and the various revolutionaries who oppose them.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    God damn Andor got me worked up. What a prescient and well-written work of art. If things get bad enough in America, there's no doubt Andor will have tons of quotes being used to stir up the people.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The more Israel genocides

    “Let's kill thousands of the adult population of Gaza since they're all affiliated with Hamas. Surely that won't lead to radicalization of the youth in Gaza and emergence of Hamas 2, like it did the last time.”

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I wouldn't say they are sympathetic or justified, since they're absolutely terrorists doing terrible things to both Palestinians and Israelis. I'm just saying that I see the cause and effect.

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  • [–] 85 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    "Israel says..." and "Israel accuses....." now have the same credibility and value as "Trump says..." or "Trump accuses..."

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  • [–] 222 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Being anti Israel is not the same as being antisemitic, it's being anti-zionist.

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  • [–] 81 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    In fact, being pro Israel is antisemitic

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  • [–] 121 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    You'll never convince zionists of that though

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  • [–] 69 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is how you know that Mamdani made a good choice. When the bullies cry crocodile tears, you can ignore them.

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago

    Mandami lifted a rule stating you cannot stop doing buainess with isreal.

    He gave people the FREEDOM to choose to stop dealing witb isreal. And of course, let the crybabies come out of the woodwork.

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  • [+] -40 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    IKR? Everyone loved Jews until Israel started in 1948.

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  • [+] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    They're a 3 day old account doing nothing but defend Israel. There's no use arguing with them.

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago

    Sorry Israel but you don't represent Jews

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Mamdani immediately rescinded all of Adams' executive orders made after Adams' indictment. I wish this article clarified if this EO was part of that batch.

    Edit: It was: https://bsky.app/profile/hunterw.bsky.social/post/3mbhyhk2egc2e

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Fellas, is it antisemetic to perform your mayoral duties to New York City instead of Tel Aviv?

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago

    So they're shit scared of Mamdani then? That sounds like a good thing.

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Repeat after me: being anti-Israel (government) is not being anti-Semitic. Being anti-Hamas is not being Islamophobic. When you are against assholes and warcrimes you are anti-asshole and anti-warcriminal.

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    [–] 34 points 10 months ago*

    Just like with the US government, if Israel's government is criticizing you you're on the right side.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago

    There was a time when a foreign country impugning a mayor would’ve been big news. Now “Israel accuses person of antisemitism” is just something that happens every few days.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago

    At this point getting slandered by Israel seems more like a badge of honor. I don't even want a nation committing an ongoing genocide to like me.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago

    If something displeases Israel, it very much pleases me. Please continue Mr. Mamdani!

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Right... which is why Mamdani in his first speech as mayor spoke of how much he cherished the multicultural upbringing he had in NYC and used the example of being able to as a Muslim get tasty bagels and lox all the time as a kid.

    I particularly bristle at Mamdani being called anti-semitic because Mamdani is a once in a generation political orator who is SPECIFICALLY talented at speaking to the shared interests we all have that transcend meaningless superficial divisions between us. I have no doubt Mamdani will do everything in his power to protect Jewish people along with everyone else and given NYC has the most amount of Jews outside of Israel I would hazard a guess to say most Jews feel similarly who know about Mamdani and aren't caught up in the fear mongering.

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  • [–] 56 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Remember kids, if Mamdani is killed, it's CIA

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Hey, don't be so presumptuous.

    It could also be Mossad.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    CIA should grant privilege for that to happen

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Do you also think Mossad killed Charlie Kirk?

    Candace Owens is batshit crazy, but even she doesn't make conspiracy theory accusations before there's even a death to invent conspiracy theories about.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No and my remark was mostly a joke. I don't think Mossad cares much about Mamdani. Not yet anyway.

    I DO think they're likely to have been behind the Epstein-Maxwell pedo ring if we're getting conspiratorial. There's circumstantial evidence, but no smoking gun. 1) a former CIA spy said that compromising people is very much Mossad playbook. 2) Maxwell's dad was a double or triple agent with Mossad ties. 3) some prominent Israeli politicians like Ehud Barak were very close to Epstein.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    You don't think every intelligence agency in the world was keeping tabs on a blackmail campaign involving powerful people?

    You're just saying the CIA and Mossad were doing their jobs LOL.

    Trafficking women from Eastern Europe is the Russian Mafia's jam, but apparently you can't even imagine Putin being involved at all. Why do conspiritards make wild accusations about everyone other than Putin? Ever once wonder who's making up these conspiracy theories?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    No I mean they were financing it and arranging it. Of course every intelligence agency that knew about it would've kept tabs on it if they were able to get someone on the inside. But the most likely candidate for the actual ownership of the ring is Mossad as far as currently easily available info suggests. Not like I've done any super deep research for it.

    If you have something tying Epstein to Putin, why not share with the rest of the class? It would be interesting to learn more.

    Also the thing with Putin conspiracy theories is that they're usually not just theories. There's paper trails for Russian funding of right wing groups in Europe and the US. Everything was going right by the Foundations of Geopolitics playbook till he overplayed his hand in Ukraine.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    The IHRA definition of antisemitism is "if you criticize Israel you're antisemitic," and restrictions on boycotts are unconstitutional. These orders should have been rescinded even if Adams hadn't been indicted on federal corruption charges.

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The word antisemitism used to carry weight, now thanks to Israel it doesn't really anymore

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago*

    That's what fascists do. Take terms that are commonly understood to mean something serious and use it against every person/group they don't like until it loses all meaning. Then when the fascists are inevitably found to be acting exactly like that term originally described, they can discredit whoever is accusing them because "everyone uses that word for everything, you just don't like us" despite being the cause of that problem in the first place.

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  • [+] -12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    So you disagree with scholars and almost of the entirety of the international community who have labeled it as a genocide?

    Sorry, but the general consensus is very clear on this one, and it isn't even close. Genocide denial is not a good look, and you're really telling on yourself here.

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    [–] 23 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Hey Israel, that word doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    Upset and piss off the establishment you love to see it.

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