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[–] 134 points 10 months ago (1 child)

The lid always goes down when not in use at my house.

"It's a shit receptacle, not a water feature" has been repeated to anyone who doesn't know the rule.

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  • [–] 106 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    I genuinely cannot understand why someone wouldn't want their seat and lid down at all times when not in use.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I would agree, but just yesterday I was visiting my mom and she asked that we leave the lid up in the rarely used guest bathroom because with it closed, it encourages mold growth. So I guess there's that.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That’s a fair case. We don’t use one of our tubs and every once in a while we have to flush it with water because we get sewer smell. Unused bathroom facilities apparently cause problems.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    This might be true if there is existing live mold somewhere in the toilet (for that, monthly tank bleach tablet) but otherwise a lid prevents spores from settling in the first place.

    Humidity reduction by ventilation can slow/delay mold but only eradication stops it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Well they're on a well with a septic tank which means no chlorine in the water and they wouldn't want put a bleach tab in because of the septic. But I agree it would be good to eradicate it if possible.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Even with the lid down, there are thousands of spores down there. It doesn't need constant airflow to have spores, all air is filled with spores.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's late, I'm drunk, I barely remembered to get the seat up before doing my business, and I'm used to living on my own.

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago*

    Also keeps the fecal aerosol to a minimum.

    Lid down is a win for everyone.

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  • [–] 187 points 10 months ago (27 children)

    I don't even piss standing up anymore, but I'm still a firm believer in the concept of "it really isn't that hard to just look before you sit".

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  • [–] 105 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    I don't even piss standing up anymore

    the correct solution.

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  • [–] 62 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    True power comes from not using the power.

    I can stand and piss... but for many reasons I prefer to sit.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    For me the algorithm is "if(wearing_glasses == True and is_brightly_lit == True): stand; else: sit".

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Your variables are already booleans, so you can just write:

    if wearing_glasses and is_brightly_lit

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    yes but it makes it clearer to do isWearingGlasses == true

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    The compiler/interpreter/etc will convert it to the most efficient implementation regardless of what you the human type. If you're used to the if [boolean] convention use that, if you're used to if [boolean] == true use that, it does not matter except to style commissars.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Tbh, it's just easier and less messy. I don't gotta focus on aiming, and I don't have to worry about getting griped at for forgetting to put the seat down. Standing is really only a better option if you're in public and in a rush.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Certain toilets are on the small size for my... equipment. And I periodically find my dongle touching porcelain. This also results in some backspray which is annoying to clean up.

    I've found it easier and less messy to piss standing. But I also got a fancy bidet for my wife's Christmas present years ago. It automates the whole task of opening and closing, does a bit of self-cleaning, and saves us a few bucks on toilet paper month-to-month. So its less of an issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is the exact problem I have with sitting to take a piss and, while I find it more comfortable, I’d prefer not to have to wash myself in the sink after every piss to feel clean again. Standing just cuts out the chance of getting that icy spicy porcelain all up on my wing wang.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Sometimes I piss too hard or at the wrong angle or something while I'm having a big one while I'm also having a shit and it somehow escapes under the rim and I end up with piss all over the floor. The amount of piss from that Vs micro spray is incomparable.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    I started doing this over 30 years ago, when I shared a restroom at work with a few women. I kept doing it.

    Where I grew up and live, there are two types of toilets, those designed to be sat upon, and those designed to be stood in front of. Use them as they were designed to be used, and they work better.

    I've only ever seen photos of squat toilets. I imagine that men stand in front of them and piss all over them?

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  • [+] 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I wear shorts for most of the year. Using a urinal while wearing shorts, you realise how much piss splashes everywhere. Really not hygienic.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh... I'm already doing that with my wife and in any case I'm always sitting down. I thought it was more commun to do that.

    I mean I always thought it was more hygenic to prevent the "splash zone"...

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You might think, but a couple of weeks ago, uhh, a friend was sitting on the toilet at work when m..., I mean his equipment retracted and shot a stream of urine over the rim, which fortunately(?) was contained by his pants and underwear. Reportedly, he had to drape them over the vents in his urine-smelling office until they were dry enough so that he could go home and change clothes.

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ive always put the lid down along with the seat. I believe its more sanitary and has the added benefit of women not falling fully in the bowl like when the seats up. Ive done this for about 15 years.

    A few years after I started doing this, I was spending the night at my friend's house. I had to get up early to go to work, so I was first up. My friends mother got up next apparently. I was bombarded with texts and such, her mom was angry because she got up and went to the bathroom and just went for it after she sat down. Queue giant liquid waste mess to clean and an angry start to her day.

    All these years later, I still think its one of the funniest things I've ever been part of in real life.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I never understood the debate. Ensure it's how you need it before doing your thing. Applies equally to all individuals for any scenario. Not difficult.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Women say it needs to always already be how they need it before doing their thing. Men are lazy and want to leave it up after peeing.

    Me, I put the lid down before flushing because otherwise a minuscule amount of pee would probably splash out of the toilet. Would it be more convenient to leave it up all the time? Sure, but then there's more cleaning to do and that's less convenient again.

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  • [–] 70 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Always keep the lid down to minimize poop spray!

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    But how do you check if you need to brush the bowl? Do you just wait for the flush to end and then raise the lid again to check under?

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Flushing with the lid up is 🤢

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Everybody saying keep the lid down for hygiene reason are missing the most important reason to keep the lid closed. Anything dropped or falling will inexorably end into the toilet if the lid is up.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    "This debate would be solved if everyone would just agree to one choice."

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Too bad women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up. Men are willing to meet them half way and put the seat down for pooping.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)
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    S is for sarcasm. I don't think i was being sarcastic. I wasn't serious either, just making a funny comment in response to another funny comment.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    women are too stubborn to pee with the seat up

    I think that's sarcasm, unless you actually meant to communicate that women are stubborn.

    In any case, I think due to Poe's Law, you'd have gotten better votes if you included "/s" or "j/k" or another marker. (But, votes might not be a concern to you.)

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I grew up with a dog. The toilet seat was always kept down to keep him away from drinking it, because we had toilet cleaning pucks in the tank that would have potentially poisoned him. Nothing to do with gender at all.

    Also the mythbusters episode on toilet water splashing out onto bathroom surfaces scarred me as a child. We have a soft-close lid and I wait a few seconds for it to get to a low angle before I even flush.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The mythbusters episode convinced me. That water flush makes everything spiral upwards, and it lands in your toothbrush.

    People who don't put the toilet seat down are unaware they're brushing with shit particles.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    There are such things in this world as particles.
    Particles so small that you cannot possibly detect it with your naked eyes.
    And I put it to you that there are particles of human shit lingering in the fibers of your underpants.

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  • [+] 40 points 10 months ago* (10 children)
  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Mythusters found fecal particles everywhere even when the lid was down. There's no escape from gross, just finding an acceptable level.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    If I'm remembering right Mythbusters found that there were fecal particles everywhere, but in wildly different concentrations depending on the conditions (like the control being in the kitchen)

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I'd have to re-watch those segments. The part that remains stuck in my mind is that they found fecal particles on a toothbrush that was in a closed drawer.

    I don't believe closing the lid helps that much, and I grew up with (and still have to deal with) a toilet that sometimes but not always needs a second (or third) press of the handle, so I keep the lid open so I can be sure the water really got flushed. (It drains the tank into the bowl, but sometimes it just slowly, but steadily, flows through roughly maintaining water level instead of crossing a pressure (?) threshold and flushing out the bowl and then refilling.)

    But, I'm all for closing the seat and the lid when you are done. It keeps pets and dropped items out of the bowl, if nothing else. If we have to leave the lid up, I still say seat down; that's the "ready to use" configuration for all female and some male uses.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Then all the bacteria are flung onto the lid, and when I sit down I might touch the lid with my back.

    There's plenty of bacteria in the air already, a million more aren't going to hurt. Unless you have a norovirus, then you need to disinfect with bleach after you're done.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a woman but I grew up with guys, so I never understood what the big deal was. It's ingrained in me to check the seat before sitting, as well as to check the amount of toilet paper before going.

    Guys have to lift the seat, I have to put it down, so what? I'm washing my hands when I'm done anyway (and I hope others are too), and I'd rather just have to put a seat down than have to wipe someone else's piss off it (which I have to do in public restrooms, because some women are straight-up animals there.)

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Guys have to lift the seat, I have to put it down, so what?

    Seriously, if you're arguing about the default state of the toilet seat, then you're just looking to argue.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Right? It's such a petty thing. Yeah, I get not wanting to touch the toilet, but I don't understand why the burden should be 100% on either gender. Just pay attention to the seat before you use it (regardless of which direction it's going), do your business, keep it clean, replace the toilet paper when it runs low/out, and we'll all be fine.

    Edit to add. My ex's ex made a huge deal about the toilet seat. When I first moved in with him, there were stickers that said "PUT THE SEAT DOWN" on the bottom side of it. I thought it was humiliating. I bought some Goo Gone and removed that shit.

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  • [+] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    It's because a lot of women "hover." They don't want to touch the seat, but also don't want to use seat covers or lay down toilet paper. Instead, they squat and hover over the seat, which leaves a gap for piss to spill onto. Then for some unknown reason, they don't take some toilet paper and clean up the pee they leave.

    It's terrible and I can't understand it.

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