"just one more flaming hoop, we promise!"

Still don't have my REAL ID, I have my passport. Zero reason to get one until I'm forced to in 2028 when I renew.

Personally at this point I think passports should be free for every US Citizen to get, or at least the card one.

Fascists will always contrive some arbitrary rationalization to do whatever the fuck they want to do with you. They have no allegiance to truth, logic or consistency.

So is a passport.

Birth certificate? Straight to jail

So, what can be used to confirm citizenship, DHS?

inb4 "nothing"

Why did I go through this bullshit? Enough will never be enough in the bipartisan police state.

Then why did I just spend $85 to get this ID just to get on a fucking plane?

This admin just lives to make asses of themselves trying to have everything both ways.

There have already been cases where ICE has disregarded Passports. They really don't care what if you're a citizen, so they don't really care if you have proof of citizenship.

In a December 11 court filing, Philip Lavoie, the acting assistant special agent in charge of DHS' Mobile, Alabama, office, stated that, "REAL ID can be unreliable to confirm U.S. citizenship."

That's not how the government sold Real ID to us when they created it. The whole point of Real ID was to provide an alternate way to confirm your citizenship and/or identity without requiring you to carrying your passport on you all the time.

"This brown person has REAL ID, it must not work"

Are we sure Philip Lavoie is a citizen? Sounds French, let's deport him to El Salvador.

I'm sure none of these assholes had to stand in line at the DMV with a stack of papers to get their REAL ID. Eat a bag of dicks. And of course this is coming from Alabama, can we just get rid of the fucking south already? I'm so done, they can have their BIble land or whatever, just leave the rest of us in peace.

I have been unable to get a real id because when I was 8 my parents changed my name. Then when I lived in Maryland there refused to issue an ID using my now legal name. When I moved back to my home state of New Mexico my id used my birth name as it was on my Maryland id. Now I have half my stuff using my birth name, half using my legal name, cannot get a real id.

This year I plan to change my legal name back to my birth name... or maybe something totally different.

To be fair, REAL ID was never meant to give citizenship. Its purpose is identity and lawful presence. I have friends here on visas. They're obviously not citizens, but also they're here legally and have REAL IDs.

For this same reason, people trying to say proof of citizenship to vote is no big deal because everyone has a REAL ID is full of shit in multiple ways.

Anything to hurt immigrants under trump.

That comment section went off the fucking rails.

These people are a joke.

Sphincter print ID'S coming in 2026

... That reminds me I should probably get my car tabs renewed

Eat a bag of ducks and run the ID. Yes its not tied to citizenship. But legal status.

So ridiculous since that was the whole fucking point.

Why am I not surprised that the government is inept.

WTF?!?! The Real ID and US Passports do not mean shit in the USA. Fakes! Every single one of them

Edit: sorry got Real ID mixed up with ID.me

This is bullshit, and clearly they don't care if you have documentation or not, they jsut want to harass brown people.

Venegas was detained twice in May and June during immigration raids on private construction sites, despite being a U.S.

And in both instances officers allegedly retrieved Venegas' Alabama-issued REAL ID from his pocket but claimed it could be fake

Probably trying to use Real ID as a scapegoat. The real problem is the “papers please” racists / authoritarian round ups.

The REAL ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005, enacted the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses and identification cards.” The Act and implementing regulations establish minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibit federal agencies from accepting for certain official purposes noncompliant driver’s licenses and identification cards, both physical and digital (also known as Mobile Driver’s Licenses, or “mDLs”).

The official purposes covered by the Act and regulations are:

Accessing certain federal facilities; Boarding Federally regulated commercial aircraft; and Entering nuclear power plants.

So Real ID was designed to be good enough for people to use to enter a nuclear power plant, but apparently not reliable enough to identify someone to confirm citizenship? Sounds like some racist bullshit.

the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) now considers unreliable, even though getting one requires providing proof of citizenship or lawful status in the country.

Translation: they found people they don't like that have these, so argue must be flawed.

To no one's surprise.

I lost my real ID and had to replace it last month. I brought my passport, assuming that was good enough to prove who I am, and the dmv website said that is an acceptable document.

They wouldn't accept my fucking passport as proof of citizenship or anything else at the counter. This is after scanning my face to make sure it matched the photo on my lost ID lmao. I had to do the Karen thing and ask for a manager

Almost like it's too complicated to be solved on the street during random stops...

Side note:

Next round of IDs can we stop putting addresses on there?

If a cop needs to know your address, they can view that when scanning it. It doesn't need to be printed on there for anybody to see. And most people rent and don't update anyways.

Even DOB too, just have a pass/fail for 21. No one needs your exact date of birth.

It's crazy we put all that info on there.

Gotta get all them irises into a database so the grunts can scan you on-site. Maybe use an orb or something to do the scan and give people some crypto in exchange.

So Real ID is more expensive, and harder to get. And required. And vetted by this agency. And you're telling me that it's still not enough to prove that you're residing in the US legally? GTFOH. I hope the entire American Public sues the government over this. Because seriously. What the fuck?