Same. EndeavourOs on the desktop but the rest of the Homeland is Debian.

Why that and not standard Ubuntu-based Mint? At minimum you lose PPAs and the Driver Manager. What’s the upside?

Fuck nvidia

I daily drive LMDE with a 4070ti super, works perfect. I do use the proprietary drivers but I hardly ever have issues.

@ForgottenUsername I "use arch btw"😅

Is there a writeup about their problems with Ubuntu? Adding repositories to Debian and/or Ubuntu is how plenty of software is distributed, so I'm surprised to hear they're unhappy with it.

I used Neon for a while, discovered that KDE were letting it go, and switched to Kubuntu. I love Kubuntu.

Yep. I was using Plasma on Mint for a while but the consensus was you’re best off using a DE officially supported by the distro.

Never encountered any issues personally up to that point, but seemed to be the majority opinion when I researched it.

But my most recent switch was from Endeavour, so made much more sense to install Debian 13 than to Install Mint and then immediately switch DE.

I absolutely loved the release of LMDE, it's just what I like though, the simple intuitive interface of Mint, without dealing with Canonical's bullshit (really sour about snaps, ignore me lol).

Edit: picked back up my phone and reread what was on the screen when I realized you probably meant desktop environment and not Debian Edition when you typed DE.

I completely understand the sentiment!

I am still into some tech and "new computer" type stuff. I am about to install a bigger/faster drive in my PC and set up my Home Assistant server. That PC is already my Jellyfin server. I am also in the middle of building a brand new PC for my kid, which will also run Mint, lol.

But I spend time only on the things that I've learned really matter to me, and not on all the things you're "supposed to" mess with in your home lab that you obviously have.

You know the meme (or meme category) where it's a resume or linkedin profile where the recent work history goes something like Senior Network Architect, then Goose Farmer?

I may literally have a 3D printer still in the box, and PC & networking parts all over the house, but my daily routine is embedded linux C/C++ sr developer by day and animal tender on the evenings and weekends, lol.

I can only recommend regular Fedora because I have a feeling you just wouldn’t have those issues but I am not a doctor.

lol it’s funny how proactively defensive everyone is about their distro choices

I use a Mac for my server 🤓

you're also not gonna like it when i roll up THESE SLEEVES TO THROW HANDS!

/j

I had already converted my home manager configuration into normal config files and was using Home Manager just to manage symlinks.

I was using Nix for system configuration but that doesn't mean that I forgot how to set up a Linux system by more conventional methods (it's like learning how to ride a bike). While I do like the declarative aspect, doing everything in one language didn't appeal anymore after over a year of using NixOS...

Also, I wanted a package manager that told me what packages would be updated, and which let me search packages from the command line easily... Nix didn't provide that and it was annoying me.

I do miss flake.nix or shell.nix files and Nix shells though. But XBPS (Void's package manager) has its fair share of cool things as well and seems easier to understand, which is a bonus.

Just delete the configuration.nix file along with all backups of it and its easy to not look back. At least that did it for me since my system needed specific boot settings to even work and relearning all that wasn't worth it.

For most people, especially those who want to migrate from other OS, micromanaging package versions is not part of doing shit.

+1 for Fedora being the best distro for getitng out of your way so you can get on with doing stuff.

In the context of the comment, "do shit" is explicitly not anything to do with the OS or packages or repos.

I know CachyOS, at least, shows recent Arch announcements during the update process before installing anything. Unfortunately there's been a recurring DDoS attack on Arch's servers for months, so this check tends to fail and you aren't always notified of breaking changes.

I cannot count the number of times Debian Upgrade broke on me. My memory tells me I had issues with all upgrades (on various machines with mostly defaults) since Debian 8. It’s 13 now. I did follow the correct upgrade process and quite familiar with it, yet every single time I had issues at least for some of the desktops of my elder relatives and friends that I managed. Arch was just stable. And manual intervention is usually needed only if you have this particular thing installed. So, quite seldom. For servers, I think that was much better for me, but now I’m either Arch or Fedora (for situations where I don’t bother with setting my personal environment).

Gnome

The interface looks more recent. Also I can use Wayland, as X11 can be a pain with scaling or specific setups

Apart from that, there are good default apps (although you can download KDE's stuff anyways), KDE is pretty transparent as an organization. Things like notifications are more sexy than cinnamon. Built in options like Win+P showing screen display works just like windows

Good animations, a good range of default widgets and taskbar config for my needs (it’s pretty limited imo but it’s enough for me)

Terminal is great but I got some problems like .sh scripts not showing a window but just running in background when double clicked. Apart from that, Kate (default editor), Konsole (terminal) are well built

They also have built in support for Nextcloud sync icons in the file browser, which is nice

I prefer the update manager of Mint but no big deal (can’t update only one package in KDE's GUI)

Things like managing battery and connecting to Bluetooth devices is beautiful. Everything feels premium, fast, sleek.

kde neon is their testbed I believe, but there are other distros shipping it too.

opensuse leap and thumbleweed defaults to installing kde plasma. leap is the slower moving version, thumbleweed is the bleeding edge rolling release distro, if you want to try it.

fedora has a kde edition, that too seems to be stable, maybe its more polished too

Neon is great, but don't use it for mission critical stuff. I've had updates brick my system before because it's bleeding edge for KDE.

It isn’t! I used TuxedoOS.

The main reason was that I have a tuxedo laptop, but they also adopted the same moves as mint: mirrored Ubuntu’s repos for privacy, and disabled snap by default. Also, moved ping/internet connectivity check to their own server.

I do believe the packages are a bit outdated but same problem on Mint

I think KDE Neon is more up to date with the packages but still use the default servers, so Canonical gets some of your pings

Btw tuxedo should work just fine on a non-tuxedo device. The custom optimizations should stay disabled

Also, as others have talked about it, it’s not bleeding edge KDE but stable KDE, but it’s a recent version so the desktop environment feels modern

Sorry for the slow response, I was busy