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[–] 69 points 10 months ago (20 children)

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

This means that in most cases you’re automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born

  • before December 15, 2025
  • outside Canada to a Canadian parent

This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    That can't be right. That's infinitely recursive...

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Canada has only existed since 1867, so not exactly.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    So, if I understand this correctly, if I can prove that one of my ancestors was a Canadian citizen, then all their descendants have automatically been made Canadian citizens, including me?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes it seems so, but only up to people born before Dec 15 2025. Anyone born after require that their Canadian parent had spent at least 3 years in Canada, in order to also be Canadian

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I was hopeful for a moment then realized that my Canadian ancestors would have been British.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    If they had status as British subjects domiciled in Canada pre1947, or domiciled in a predecessor colony before Confederation, that would be considered Canadian.

    For example, they could have been born in the colony of Nova Scotia before 1867, or they could have moved from the UK to Nova Scotia and, effectively, become British subjects domiciled in Nova Scotia.

    It’s worth the deep dive genealogically if you’re seriously considering applying for a certificate of citizenship.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Very interesting. I'll have to look into it. Fortunately, I have family on both sides who were very into family history; they were diehard Mormons.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Even if you and others don’t want to get citizenships in place for yourselves, it would be important to get it in place and document time in Canada, as future generations born after December 15, 2025 will have to have parents who spent 1095 in Canada.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    The citizenship law looks back before Confederation.

    In fact, Canadian citizenship only came into existence in 1947. Canada has the separate constitutional authority from the 1930s but WW II held up the legislation.

    Before 1947, Canadians were British subjects domiciled in Canada.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Holy shit, I might be a Canadian citizen!

    My genealogy might finally pay off! I have a lot of French Canadians back in my family tree. Now to track down the documents to prove it

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  • [+] [S] 37 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Looks like my 2nd great grandfather was born in Hawkesbury, Ontario in 1881! I think that means I qualify!

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  • [–] 98 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This is real! I'm one of these people and my family is working on assembling the documentation!

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    My brother lives an hour from the border, is that close enough?!?

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War

    If your family has been living in part of that yellow area for a long time, maybe.

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    What if my ex was 1/4 Canadian? Do I have to re-marry her?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    If she is there and so are the kids, you probably have some kind of path to citizenship or at least residency, even if it is not immediate. Being the parent / guardian of a citizen is something to start with in most places, at least. But only if they are actually there.

    If there are no kids involved and you are no longer married, I would guess that you have nothing to work with.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    I did my genealogy a couple of summers ago, and found out that my maternal grandmother's family came from Canada to Syracuse for factory work, in the late 19th century.

    I am definitely going to be looking into this.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Hey, it's the person that taught me to make paper!

    Hey paper person!

    I really wish I could.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Hi! Did you make paper yet? Maybe some day.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Yes! Went out that day and got everything for like $20. Still haven't gotten down the transfer from the screen to couch, but that's alright! Honing a skill is like half the fun right?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Totally, and such a cheap hobby. I'm glad you're inspired!

    Plus you can just remake all the sheets you fuck up.

    I've experimented with so many methods, best I've found for pure plant fibre sheets (if you don't want to spend forever sponging) is to just flip your whole screen with the sheet onto whatever drying surface you use(as long as it's smooth and flat) sponge the back through the screen, wait for it to dry a bit until the paper holds together on its own, then peel the screen off with a butter knife.

    I'm sure you'll figure out your own thing, though. Some people just leave them on the screens till dry.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    That gives me a good idea! Sponge it during the flip!

    Like you get the fibers on the screen, let drain, flip onto drying surface, but before lifting the screen sponge it on the back.

    New skill unlocked! :: Pokemon evolution fanfare plays::

    Edit: anyone seeing this later, that does not work! You end up pulling fibers into to screen and making it harder to lift up cleanly.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Come Nerevar, friend or traitor, come. Come and look upon the Heart and Akulakahn, and bring Wraithguard, I have need of it. Come to the Heart chamber, I wait for you there, where we last met, countless ages ago. Come to me through fire and war, I welcome you! Welcome Moon-and-Star, I have prepared a place for you! Come, bring Wraithguard to the Heart chamber, together, let us free the cursed false gods! Welcome Nerevar, together we shall speak for the law and the land and drive the mongrel dogs of the Empire from Morrowind! Is this how you honor the 6th house and the tribe unmourned? Come to me openly, and not by stealth. Dagoth Ur welcomes you Nerevar, my old friend... but to this place where destiny is made, why have you come unprepared? Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where YOUR destiny is made. What a fool you are, I'm a god! How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence! How could you be so naive? There is no escape, no recall or intervention can work in this place! Come! Lay down your weapons! It is not too late for my mercy...

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    I like poutine. Will that work?

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Depends if you use real cheese curds or shredded cheese.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Do people use shredded cheese?! What the fuck?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Shredded cheese on poutine is an automatic life sentence without parole.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It should be the single question on our citizenship test. “Do you put shredded cheese on poutine?” If yes, you get shot on the spot. Sorry, this is Canada, you get hung.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    That includes great, great grandparents.

    Two of my great, great grandparents (my grandfather's grandparents) were born in Canada. Reading through the law, I'm having trouble identifying exactly where this makes me eligible. Can I ask for a bit of help pointed in the right direction?

    I have my birth certificate linking me to my father, his birth certificate linking him to my grandfather. Then US census records linking my grandfather to my great grandmother, and US census records linking her to her (Canadian born) parents. I guess I need to find proof of their Canadian births…

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What I would do is pay a lawyer in Canada to get their birth certificates.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I would look at the FAQ on finding n documentation in the subreddit.

    Family Search and Ancestry will help find Census records, birth certificates and baptismal records (for periods before civil registration which came quite late in several provinces).

    Once you know where and when your Canadian ancestors were born, you will be in a good place to get a baptismal record from the appropriate provincial archives.

    For this, it’s unlikely that you’ll need a lawyer.

    However, if you’re looking for legal expertise, the two most experienced in citizenship by descent (practising in BC and Quebec) were guests on this recent Borderlines Podcast.

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    [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Damn. My wife and I were just talking about this. My Great grandmother was Canadian and I thought it was too far out for me to consider going for citizenship.

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    [+] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html

    If you were born or adopted before December 15, 2025

    Citizenship may have been restored or given to people who were born outside Canada in the second generation or later before December 15, 2025.

    This means that in most cases you’re automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born

    • before December 15, 2025
    • outside Canada to a Canadian parent

    This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.

    If this change made you a Canadian automatically, but you don’t want to be one, you can apply to give up (renounce) your Canadian citizenship.

    Adopted people are likely eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship through a direct grant for adopted people if they were born and adopted outside Canada in the second generation or later before December 15, 2025.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    This is a straightforward case as long as you were adopted when your mother had citizenship status and the adoption took place before December 15, 2025.

    Whether your mum was born in Canada or a Canadian citizen by descent, you’ll need go through a two-step process with some help from your mum.

    Step 1 - Your mother’s citizenship status needs to be confirmed by IRCC. When this is done, an identifier will be created so you can complete step 2.

    Step 2 - your adoption is documented so that IRCC can provide a grant of citizenship.

    Here is the page with the forms - they haven’t all been updated yet to say that the first generation limit doesn’t apply to your parent.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/application-canadian-citizenship-adopted-person.html

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    [–] 10 points 10 months ago*

    I didn't qualify as a kid (which is interesting because one of the things I was considering was moving to Montreal for university which would probably have lead to a very different life than I have now), but the law changes allowed me to later claim citizenship (under the 2009 change, IIRC). There is (or at least was when I did) a fair amount of documentation to write and provide about all your relatives so be ready for that.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Oh, that's interesting. My father had our lineage researched and learned that an ancestor took the side of the British during the USA revolutionary war. He had to move to Canada after the colonies won their independence due to a campaign of harassment in which his barn was burned down.

    The most interesting thing about it before now was that someone in my family history had supported the other team. Now it might have actual bearing on my life instead of just being a fun story.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I am a 4th generation Canadian. I guess I am safe.

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    [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    wait what. fuck yes. i have easy access to all of these. original birth certs back four generations. what's this law

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The law is The Citizenship Act with Lost Canadians amendments that came into force on December 15, 2025.

    The 2023 Bjorkquist decision on Lost Canadians found the first generation limit on citizenship by descent violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Parliament passed amendments in bill C-3 in early December.

    For persons born after December 15, 2025, their new amendments to the Act will require Canadians born outside Canada to meet a 1095 day presence requirement, but the C-3 amendments effectively do away with the first generation limit on citizenship by descent for persons born or adopted before it came into effect.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen/eligibility/already-citizen.html

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Thank you so much! I have the last 3 generations' birth certs, but it's Gramma Shirley who was born in Canada and it's hers i need (4 generations ago). I know the right city hall to order it from tho. See you in three years or so!

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I just wanted to add that many countries have similar ancestor laws allowing you to apply for citizenship if you have any roots there. It’s not always easy - but at least you may have an “in” that others would not. So if you think you have a grandfather who immigrated from somewhere or other, look it up and see if you might be able to get on a path to citizenship there. My wife did this earlier this year, and all it took was some paperwork and a visit to a consulate with her parents.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Do you have a source to read more?

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  • [+] [S] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Is there any actual content on that wiki? I'm not seeing any actual content there.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Is it easy to become canadian in general

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm the one asking the questions here

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