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[–] 166 points 10 months ago (35 children)

I’m friends with sex workers who give comfort just like this. Some of them don’t even have sex on their menus, just physical touch, companionship, and listening. They say it’s exhausting, perhaps even moreso than sex, but the pay is good. There’s boundary issues to watch out for.

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    That sounds like therapy with touching and without the responsibility. Probably not a bad job.

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  • [–] 67 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah but without the years of training on how to manage and help people's emotional problems.

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  • [–] 90 points 10 months ago* (24 children)

    sex workers

    don’t even have sex on their menus

    🤔

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    Just sashaying up to the counter, “a number nine combo and a medium sex.”

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

    "Sorry, we're all out of sex. How about a hotly contested disagreement followed by rapprochement and eventually a blossoming mutual respect and admiration over the course of several months?"

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Does it come with a side of friendship?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    That’s literally why I asked though.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm afraid that information isn't publicly available.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Wait till you find out about Cam girls

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    really? what do you think i will discover when i find out?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sex workers that dont have sex on the menu

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    if you don't have sex on a menu, you are not a sex worker, that is literally definition of the word.

    similar to when you don't do politics, you are not a politician and when you don't work in a field of medicine with a medical degree, you are not a medical doctor.

    also sex does not necessarily mean "sex with you" or "vaginal penetration".

    with that being said, here is handful guide to "cam people" for you:

    • that guy doing videos about physics: not a sexworker
    • that girl doing videos about chess: not a sexworker
    • that girl masturbating on a camera: sexworker

    hope that helps.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I used to know a gal who did SW at night, though at the time I wasn't aware of her occupation. She'd regularly hang out with my buddy and I. One day he was complaining about his back and she offered him a massage, then offered me one as well as I'd been known to have a bad shoulder While it wasn't the absolute best massage I'd had, it was up there above most places covered by my medical.

    I could 100% see people paying for company and a non-sexual contact from somebody like that. She was good with people and had a sense for now to relax people physically and emotionally.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Yea this is known thing. Sex can be part of it but it’s not really all that important for this kind of thing. Those men (and sometimes women) are so desperate for intimacy they will literally pay for it.

    It’s the macho way of going to therapy.

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  • [–] 115 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    A huge amount of sex workers' actual jobs is giving just that level of intimacy and comfort.

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Which sounds nice but it’s really a false intimacy unless you actually go on to develop a long term relationship with that sex worker.

    I think one of the biggest contributors to our growing societal sense of alienation is all the surrogates we use for genuine adaptive functions. Everything from fast food to hardcore drugs has been optimized to mimic what are supposed to be honest signals in our brains that guide us toward making good choices in the long run. Intimacy (and feel-good hormones) are supposed to help us survive in the long term by building relationships and strengthening bonds that protect us against all the random risks of life. Building a sense of intimacy with a stranger that you never see again is ultimately going to lead to greater pain and a sense of loss down the road.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago*

    Why bother connecting with a stranger, it'll only end in sadness and pain

    babe, go outside, call your parents or whatever. Life is built on these tiny meaningless interactions.

    ps, you will not developda relationship with a sexworker, don't approach things this way, would you build a fantasy life with a waiter or bar tender?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    If you are paying, she ain’t staying, and that ain’t intimacy— it’s delusion.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    i pay for a burrito, then it was gone. it was an delusion.

    miss my burrito.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    a friend of mine actually tried to pull that trick with commercial hugs. she brought him her gym buddies - some extra big guys and developed a price list with several options. she made around 1k on pure shits and giggles vibes out of that. it was right before the pandemic. those were the days...

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    Damn, sad, especially around the holidays.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Is this a commentary on the current psychological state of men or the economy?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Soo I've been friends with some sex workers, and professionally known some (I worked in sexual health).

    They all tell the same story: about 50% of their clients don't even want sex, or it doesn't get there, because they just wanted someone to talk to for a few hours, someone to listen to them, treat them like a friend even if it's transactional. They said a lot of guys end up crying, talking about their broken relationships and problems.

    And then the other 50% want to get freaky as hell, so it's a dichotomy.

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    [–] 20 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Not funny in any way and sad in so many.

    Commentary about how isolated men are?

    Or commentary that men have become so ineffectual that they cannot create a single meaningful relationship that evolves to the hug level?

    Some things can be blamed on the economy — not this. This is a matter of making first things first and not blaming others for our own short comings.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think it's supposed to be funny.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Some things can be blamed on the economy — not this. This is a matter of making first things first and not blaming others for our own short comings.

    This is connected to economy and politics. Neoliberalism, to be exact. Rugged individualism, individual responsibility, every man for himself... The same myths used for concentrating wealth into teeny tiny minority and making masses poorer, are also making us lonely and isolated.

    We are pack animals, we have survived for hundreds of thousands of years (millions if you count non-sapient ancestors) by building communes and taking care of eachother.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    We have ALWAYS had to have game.

    The weak chimp could not get any quim.

    The toughest chimp/gorilla became boss and literally had a harem.

    I’m not sure what you are arguing for here.

    I just want to inspire people to employ their “if at first you don’t succeed…” muscle. That’s all. Paying for intimacy is giving up.

    And also… intimacy cannot be had in any kind of economic transaction.

    Satisfaction? Yes.

    Intimacy? No.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You realize that humans and gorillas have very different social dynamics? Can we drop the stupid pseudoscience?

    It’s more that before, women couldn’t get fucking bank accounts or hold most jobs, which meant that marriage for them was a matter of survival. Now, women are able to support themselves and get to choose whether they want to be in relationships are not.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Intimacy and commercial transaction are mutually exclusive.

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