Also a pedo. From his wiki page:

Besson's second wife was actress and director Maïwenn Le Besco, whom he started dating when he was 32 and she was 15 after having met three years earlier.[46] They married in late 1992 when Le Besco, 16, was pregnant with their daughter Shanna, who was born on 3 January 1993.[47][deprecated source] Le Besco later claimed that their relationship inspired Besson's film Léon (1994), where the plot involved the emotional relationship between an adult man and a 12-year-old girl (played by then 12-year-old Natalie Portman).

man, this was the worst. but he's not getting another dollar from me, the bastard. at least he's not fighting Terry Pratchett's estate over Good Omens.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/terry-pratchett-estate-removes-neil-gaiman-from-good-omens-kickstarter/

speaking of which, Terry seems to have been just a great guy and was better than Neil anyway. It's really helped me to let Neil go.

Same with his ex? Wife Amanda Palmer. I love the Dresden Dolls and she's been very inspirational but knowing she was in on it was fucked up.

This broke my damn heart. His work seemed to have the values I hold dear and be so insightful and then… he’s getting in the bath with girls who depend on him for housing.

I am thinking that power corrupts. I came up with that but you can use that phrase if you want.

Pretty sure the Anthony Keides stuff was well known for decades. It's in his autobiography that was published like 20 years ago or something.

He's always been the worst part of that band

kiedis from scar tissue? or is there something new i missed?

I have a theory that all writers are somewhat hypocritical. As an amateur writer myself (I write fan fiction and am also working on original work I hope to get published eventually), I find sometimes the moral messages I try to weave into my work are sometimes messages that I myself am struggling to live up to and writing is a way of trying to work through that

hey, read the books you already own all you want. that doesn't put anymore money in his pocket.

being "cancelled" doesn't mean we stick our fingers in our ears and act like it didn't happen. it just means being conscientious about funding the lives of people who are actively making the world a worse place.

this is a critical detail that I think people often miss

I think it's wild that he's the same man who made Dilbert trans and feminist in his tv show finale and it actually got kind of sincere.

I stopped liking dilbert when it became obvious that dilbert was becoming a side character so he could prop up PHB. Anything I've seen since then is just insufferable.

'The Dilbert Principle' is a great book. It's a shame he threw all that goodwill away.

I kind of think that Lovecraft was doing about the least-worst thing he could with his absolutely massive trove of neuroses and phobias, which definitely included racism and xenophobia.

He was convinced that the universe was chaotic and horrifying and that the only thing we could hold on to for stability was racial purity, and that's pretty fucked up, but he turned those feelings into spooky stories about interdimensional space monsters, which is certainly a lot better than writing political tracts or trying to convince everyone that the Armenians are actually to blame for all of our problems.

Therapy would have been even better, but writing spooky stories was better than some of the very real alternatives that other people were exploring in the 19-teens and twenties.

Lovecraft was my first experience with seperating the artist and the work. Since then, I've had to deal with it frequently but eventually you get used to it.

Those books are wild.

Oh wow.

I wouldn't feel too bad about this. He's going where he needs to for funding/support. The War on Science is his latest book, and it's like a who's who of shitty people complaining about how their academic efforts are being attacked for whatever reason and the real answer is generally assault, harassment, or embarrassing their employers (universities). One great example was a professor being outraged on the infringement of their free speech when the university asked people to not use blackface as part of their Halloween costumes. Note what I said there. They didn't say they couldn't wear blackface, just that they should reconsider doing so. That is the exact opposite of censorship. I went into that 4-hour (!) video thinking I'd watch an example or two and couldn't stop.

If anything, the people you want to reach might find Krauss approachable. Use him as a tool for good. And if you find someone more palatable, use them for the climate deniers who aren't on the anti-woke train.

Yeah people can complain Torvalds was rude all day, but fuck me if the people he yelled at couldn't be aggressively disrespectful in bringing half-assed work to the table and doing damage or at best wasting other's people time.

i've heard Torvalds be called rude but never "cancelled".

Sebastian because most of the shit he's been accused of has either been fixed openly, or was proven mostly false.

From what I understand, nothing was proven false, but there were things that were not proven true, as in "we couldn't find documented evidence that this employee was sexually harassed", which obviously doesn't necessarily mean that it did not happen. They just couldn't find a paper trail of it happening, which is understandable.

On the other hand, things like all the factual inaccuracies and whatnot were absolutely undeniable.

How do you define “cancelled”?

As far as I can tell both Sebastian and Torvalds are just as successful (if not more) in their respective roles today as they were before any “controversies” surrounding them were made public.

His video about what happened is very surreal. It’s on YouTube. I think it’s tied to his House of Cards character but has dual meaning?

Indeed a great actor, but as a Trekker human being, fuck him for how he treated Anthony Rapp (the engineer from Star Trek Discovery).

Totally. 

…and if you’re going to take down Kevin Spacey, he should be the 1000th male actor or rock star you go after.

Like…yeah…people should decide if all the accusations (and no convictions) are worth anything…I think they are. But…why are people like Johnny Depp, Mel Gibson, Alex Baldwin, Sean Penn, etc still working…maybe even working more after crazy shit they did?

Agreed.

but hes been doubling down every since to deflect attention away, which pretty yucky. RAPP said hes over it? is he really, or he doesnt want to ruffle feathers in hollywood, which has more executives that are perverts.

Never got that. His eyes always seemed out of character.

He really is.

mj was something special if very fuken weird, but the maker of his best jams was quincy jones. if you don’t know him, spend some time investigating his catalog.

He was an incredibly talented artist. I think his father deserves most of the blame for Michael's bizarre behavior. Most adults would struggle with the pressures of fame and performing that he spent his whole life under from the time he was like 10 years old. Joe recognized that his kids were talented and then proceeded to squeeze every last red cent he could out of them. No wonder Michael snapped.

I don't think we'll ever know. I have a feeling he actually wasn't a pedophile at all, but just felt close to children because he had Peter Pan syndrome or something. He seemed very infantile to me is the only real sense I got of him. Strange person. But without question he did make some r really iconic music.

Fair. I wish the art people made wasn't tainted by their behaviour.

Like I have a soft spot for Vince Neil even though he killed people drunk driving, because of how his poor little daughter died and how badly it's affected him. I can't help it.

and sandman too. unfortunately with neftflix being too stingy and gaiman have all the SA/SH accusations agains tthem, we wont have anymore series or shows out of his work.

I can get onboard with separate the art from the artist, mostly. Especially if you're not paying for the content, arrgh.

I find it hard to look at them without thinking of what they did, though. It's hard for me to see past the artist to the art, when the artist is so shitty. I mean, he's right there in my face, and I know what he did, so that's all I'm thinking about when they're acting.

Public people should do everything they can to keep their private lives private. Some of them are very good at it, so it is possible.