Sweden is not. Our tax office decided only this year to migrate everything to the Office 365 cloud despite Microsoft admitting that they'd turn over any data to the US government should they be asked to. I think the EU should step in on this.
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I never understood how companies like Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc. can commit crimes such as espionage for the NSA over years, and everyone will still give them their personal property without any concern whatsoever. The problem is public infrastructure uses these products with the pre-bundled viruses, meaning even if you are practicing perfect infosec, it still doesn't matter. Because the U.S. can still get it through just asking Microsoft or Apple to fork it over.
This. I literally only started to use WhatsApp and FaceBook when i moved to Spain, because otherwise itโs impossible to find, evaluate and contact any business here. Need a craftsman? Reserve a table in a restaurant? -> whatsapp
Here, people have not the slightest conscientiousness about data protection policies
Just like the US cut out of TicToc, we need to cut out of Facebook, X, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc.
The best time to start is now, so 10 years down the road you get it happening.
What the fuck does Salesforce do?
Again, we don't need our very own local Torment Nexus.
I think you're overestimating the brain drain. Most people who emigrate from EU countries do so to another EU country.
We're not India.
And if you go to the right type of tech company in the right member state, you can easily get a salary over 130k USD with just a few years of experience. With much better job security and work life balance.
I wish Canada was doing the same
Canada can't afford that right now, not in this economy, not while a president that is so easily purchasable. But I wish the same.
The Five Eyes surveillance sharing system makes it unlikely that the UK, Canada, Australia or New Zealand will have the same national security drive to opt out. They can just ask the US to share info on their own citizens in a way that isn't open to mainland Europe.
Sounds good, but with the big tech lobbying in Europe and many politicians having their ears bent for the right price there will be a pushback that will delay it until it's too late.
Too many saying our privacy is not a priority. Identify those and get rid of them (don't elect them) and block it at every possible point.
We are so far away from competing with aws, gcp and azure though
Hopefully investments are there
The core issue stems from the US CLOUD Act of 2018, which allows American authorities to access data held by US companies regardless of location
Tell me how the US is not what they blame China to be.
I'd be grateful if my university ditched MS Outlook as their mail provider and went back the the self-managed solution. Outlook is simply annoying as fuck.
Agree, it has no technical reasons for not having European sovereignty, only political, bureaucratic reasons, ignorance and commodity that prevent it. There are plenty of good and even better alternatives to US big brother crap.
I think Europe needs to build it's own infrastructure, with black jack and hookers! You know what, forget the infra!
It definitely seems like the smart move as far as I can tell. I assume building new infrastructure/software etc. would create a lot of jobs, plus it seems like a solid long-term investment in general, and it would probably help against hostile influences from outside. By which I mean mainly Russia but also increasingly the US too. Sorry, Americans but I also suspect that your troubles won't end with Trump. I think the whole system needs flushing out TBH.
Observation, entirely unrelated to this post......... Always best to quickly remove a sticking plaster (bandaid) as quickly as possible. Especially when its not needed and covered in crud keeping the wound at risk.
Less US dominance and more options are good even for countries that can't develop their own alternatives.
Europe better invests in autonomy for survival reasons, the fragile balance of global inter-dependence is no more...
Lots of promising stuff happening here in Denmark already. A minister of digitalization, Linux Laptops in the government, and Margrethe Vestager created an initiative for European based social networks called Rebuild.
But for some reason also some backwards stuff. Like trying to ban VPN. Like, what?
Did Nextcloud get any more performant in the last 5years, or did the Austrian ministry shoot itself in the foot?
Europeโs quest for digital sovereignty is hampered by a 90 per cent dependency on US cloud infrastructure
I canโt even imagine the number for Canada, itโs gotta be 100%.
I hope we and Europe can do this transition together, thereโs a lot of room for safe partnership in it.
I wonder what the data center owning oligarchs are going to think in a year when the only customer they can sell their product to is the US? Maybe bankrolling the current regime wasnโt such a great idea after all.
If the EU can throw off the shackles from the US, that would be freedom worth gaining. Unless it is traded in for European oligarchs.
It would be so great if the world actually had the resolve to pull that off.
It is what should happen but I am not holding my breath.
This would be extremely important, but unfortunately it is unlikely to happen with our politicians. On the contrary, they are even signing new deals with companies such as Palantir, thereby providing the US regime with the most sensitive information about EU citizens. So, unfortunately, there is little to be expected in this regard.
Yes, it's true: hope dies last. Perhaps our leaders will finally realize how dangerous it is to be absolutely dependent - and on such an unpredictable regime at that. Many Countries from the East understood the importance of digital sovereignty decades ago and have largely built up their own systems. In Europe, this has been prevented by massive lobbying, but perhaps something will really happen now that we are being blackmailed because of our self-inflicted dependence.
Sounds more like they're cutting umbilical cord on corporations altogether. Good for them. There's nothing that MS or Google has that's irreplaceable. You're just going to have to learn something new and different. There will be an adjustment period.

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