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[–] 215 points 11 months ago (27 children)

My grandad was told he’d have to give back his electric wheelchair due to some change in insurance.

He was like “let me know what day, so I can have the news here as your tip a 100 year old ww2 veteran out of his wheelchair”

They let him keep the chair.

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  • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    i don't know even what insult i wanna use for those people. those are horrible people

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    My grandfather taught me never to dehumanize people.

    Once you start seeing people as “less than people” things go bad quick. People are people. There’s good, bad, and ugly. But they are people.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    There are subhumans. It’s ok to treat monsters less than they deserve.

    Just look at what is happening in the Middle East.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    They’re people with a job they need to feed their families. The person who made the call wasn’t the one who made the decision.

    I was a GM for a few dollar trees and had to have people kicked out for stealing toothache medicine. I know how bad toothaches can be, I understand they are homeless, but I had a job that needed to feed my family.

    The world sucks not the people in it. We are all just slaves to this system we’ve built.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You can make the same argument for ICE, so I won't buy it but I understand the pressure

    I would just turn a blind eye if I saw someone stealing medicine

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Well if it makes you feel any better I quit that job and got baker acted 4 times in a month for suicude attempts. So I guess we agree lol

    My elbow will never bend right again because of that fight with the cops.

    Before that I took in 6 homeless people to live with me while they got on their feet.

    Have you ever held a man who drank himself to death because he was dieing of aids ? I cried the whole time to the hospital with him.

    So… what exactly have you done to help the cause again? Aside from your chair sitting I mean?

    Because ive helped so many people the universe won’t allow me to die. And boy howdy have I tried lots of ways. Life clings to me like a parasite.

    You want to talk about ice? Have you ever sheltered an immigrant? I have.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm sorry for you but I don't see how any of that has anything to do with turning a blind eye if I see someone stealing something from a dollar tree

    I won't virtue signal here, I can barely wake up every day to work while masking, let alone taking care of homeless people. So kudos to you for actually trying something

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I just got a lot going on dude. I’m know for you’re perspective I just went off on you randomly… it isn’t you.

    All I can say is “kudos to you” see how far that got me. I think I said before “how’d it work out for those saints in the Bible “

    I’ve done a lot and it cost me a lot. So the best you can without losing yourself.

    Sorry for my outburst. It really wasn’t personal at all. It was me.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    I bet the people were like "smart alec"

    I'm like "you go grandpa show them who's boss"

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    He was a tough old man. He had all the patience in the world for us kids but none for adults who should know better.

    His mom died in the dust bowl… from dust inhalation. Then he went to Italy to fight facists. Then came home and joined the board of health and helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.

    Try he think they’re going to take his wheelchair? Come and take it!

    Oh he also had his name legally changed so he wouldn’t be named after Robert E Lee anymore. He wasn’t a fan of slavery. He also wasn’t a fan of baby boomers. Called them “the me me me generation “

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.

    We have lots of rabbis in America, someone should warn the Jewish population that there's a vaccine for them! /s

    (I'm pretty sure you mean "rabies" but yours is a hell of a lot funnier)

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

    Oh shit… he had a hat that said Ww2 veteran we never asked “what side”!!! This changes everything!!! At least he was working on a cure tho… joke obviously.

    Spelling isn’t my strong point. I’m a salesman and a great “talker” but spelling escapes me

    Jokes aside rabies (that right) is a terrible way to go. It was a bigger deal back in the day. In some countries it’s still a big worry.

    (So many edits) I’m imagining now my friend Zack who was Jewish walking thru the woods “is this free meat? Well can’t let it go to waste… wait why do I feel like god has left me all the sudden”

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Rabies is absolutely horrifying...fear of water and the awful death... your Grandfather sounds absolutely badass.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    He also wasn’t a fan of baby boomers. Called them “the me me me generation"

    Haha, I feel like basically every generation besides Gen X has been called this by this point, nice to know where it started though.

    Your granddad's biography would be legendary!

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Oh I forget the best story because I just told someone earlier today. He had to pull him out of the nursing home because he kept bullying the younger trump supporters with “ I killed the Nazis once. I can kill them again if I have to”

    My dad was a trump supporter up until he died but he voted democrat those years out of respect for my mom’s father.

    I swear my grandfather had the presence of dumbledore from harry potter. Like him or don’t but you can’t help but respect him.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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    DONT fuck trump supporters. It reminds me of the joke “if you go over to a persons house and don’t see any books… don’t fuck them”

    Same with trump stuff. I’m asexual myself but I hear sex is a strong motivator for most men.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Oh I forget the best story because I just told someone earlier today. We had to pull him out of the nursing home because he kept bullying the younger trump supporters with “ I killed the Nazis once. I can kill them again if I have to”

    My dad was a trump supporter up until he died but he voted democrat those years out of respect for my mom’s father.

    I swear my grandfather had the presence of dumbledore from harry potter. Like him or don’t but you can’t help but respect him.

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  • [–] 102 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    "refusing to leave"

    Where, specifically, did they expect her to go? Being thrown out on the streets at 93 is effectively a death sentence.

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    not being able to work is a death sentence in America

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Reminder that socialist countries like Cuba or the USSR have historically de jure and de facto guaranteed employment, with worse economic conditions and over a half century ago. Unemployment is a capitalist construct and we can do better than that.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation.

    what's the point in having exponential productivity increase if we are all still expected to work full time or starve.

    we could probably just set up a 20 hour week maximum and the economy would still run. just with less profits for the 1%, but they can go fuck themselves with syphilitic cacti.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation

    That's up for debate, but my point was about work being a guaranteed universal right, not about it being forced at gunpoint.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (6 children)

    It's only up to debate if someone's is a capitalist bootlicker.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I'm a communist, so no, the only way to debate this isn't by being a capitalist bootlicker.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    ok.

    tankie bootlicker? if I'm off, please provide me a slur to use for you...

    actually, besides pronouns, it would be polite to ask people for their slurs.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Just "Marxist" suffices. Judging by your hatred of socialists, that's probably a slur for you already.

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and explain myself to you:

    Labor, according to Marx's Labor Theory of Value, is the source of value in society and economy. Without labor, there simply is no value.

    I envision a society that behaves according to the moral principle that can be summarized as "everyone contributes according to their capabilities, and everyone receives according to their needs".

    Who are those who obtain compensation without work? Landlords, capitalist owners, financial institutions: rentiers and exploiters, in short. I don't want those in my society.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    can we please chill.

    tried to make the last comment half a joke. I'm a Marxist too, work with my local DSA and mutual aids (not as socialists as I would want, but the closest thing).

    I just disagree with the concept that work is a moral thing. people should work according to their habilites. but if it isn't necessary, there shouldn't be bullshit jobs just for people to be busy and "earn" a living.

    Even comparing with medieval serfs we work more than them and barely affording rent. despite productivity being orders of magnitude greater.

    fuck landlords, they definitely do not "earn" a living, they suck it from others who do like the parasites that they are.

    I think we're both getting too defensive.

    It's ok to disagree in the small details, if you want to continue, we can focus on that.

    for me, feel free to use he/him and any slur you prefer (i think I've earned a couple here)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, let's chill, sorry for my part on that.

    Seeing as you're a Marxist and DSA member: mate, why the need for the left-punching "tankie bootlicker" stuff? Actually existing socialism has brought liberation to hundreds of millions of people, had there been no USSR what would have happened to Cuba or Vietnam?

    Now, about work. I agree there shouldn't be bullshit jobs. Labour, as the only source of value, is a precious commodity, and shouldn't be wasted on bullshit just because "working dignifies" or some right wing shit like that. That said, I also thing that there will always be labor to do, and since someone has to do it, it would be fair to more or less share it equally and according to our capabilities. We should also work fewer hours than we currently do.

    As a final nitpick: when people say that medieval serfs worked less than we do, I suspect only field labor is counted. Peasants mostly lived in self-sustaining communities where the clothes, the housing, the iron utensils, the ceramics, the basketry etc. were manufactured to a great degree by serfs themselves. Serfs may have had fewer "working days" than us as in fewer days spent in the field vs. the office, but I suspect that the rest of the time they were mostly also working doing basketry, woodworking, fixing clothes and cleaning them, building homes, or other labors that were for self consumption or for local trade.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Calling you a tankie bootlicker was intended as a jest. I hate how tone gets lost on the internet and I suck at making it clear (I also hate that it ends up with me being a Schrödinger asshole, where my statement is serious or a joke based on the outcome). There are tankies that are just red fascists and there are tankies that acknowledge the dangers of totalitarianism (and think how to avoid it) and the benefit of a state that cares for the public (I hope you are here).

    I only disagree that it is fair to spread the work as evenly as possible. like yhea, in principle it is fair, but in practice? Maybe I am a bit naïve in my utopia, but I believe that if our economy did not focus on BS commodities and luxuries, and instead focused on things that we need and make life better, most of the jobs would disappear. so much so that unemployment would be really high. but if living isn't tied to labour, that would not a bad thing. if only half the population has to work in jobs they enjoy doing that treat them well, then why not let the rest focus on the things that they love.

    From experience in academy, I know that 90% of scientists would do science just for the love of it. how many carpenters love their craft? how many truckers get home from a 16 hour shift and relax playing truck simulators? Let the rest do art, or just enjoy life.

    Those things are only relevant once/if we cover the lower rungs of Maslow's pyramid of needs, if there is no poverty, everyone is fed, has access to healthcare, education, and a dignified life, then who cares of someone wants to dedicate his life doing absolutely nothing?

    I will give you the point about serfs, but then we also have to account for the "chores" we do nowadays. if we include groceries, cooking, commuting, cleaning... then we practically have no free time as well, just like those serfs.

    although we can for sure agree that BS like the crank machine is objectively evil.

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  • [–] 51 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Every single assisted living facility in the United States would do the same thing. They are businesses designed to strip every last bit of wealth before we die, they do not give a shit about their residents customers.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Yeah but have you ever tried to care for aging parents outside of a retirement community, sucks all your time, money, and energy leaving nothing else for the rest of your family. End of life care is a great place to extract wealth if you're heartless. People are their most scared and vulnerable, they'll pay anything to feel normal for just a little while longer

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, my mother has advanced Parkinson’s and I was her primary caretaker for years before we finally had to move her into assisted living. I know very well how ill-equipped our society is for elder care.

    People always talk about how it takes a village to raise a child, but we rarely talk about the village required to care for our elders.

    Personally, I would rather kill myself than end up in a facility like my mom is in.

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  • [+] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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    The sad part is, it’s one of the best facilities around in a very HCOL area. We pay $8000 per month just for room and board. When she needs more care that price will increase. You’d think with ~100 residents all paying at least that much that the place would be really good, right? But the staff is all paid minimum wage so they can’t hire people to provide the basic services they advertise, like transportation. The meals are all made from institutional wholesale ingredients like liquid “eggs”, frozen meat and vegetables, and red delicious apples.

    My mom has been burgled by staff and ignored by caregivers while she was stuck on the toilet because the understaffing issue is so bad.

    Most of the staff are great people, but the owners are making so much money that they could breed like rabbits and their great-great-grandchildren would never have to lift a finger in their lives.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Well like, what other options are there? Most retirement communities have been bought out by Atria or Life Care Services, stripped of anything that made them special and unique, then had their prices jacked way up. For elderly people they can either A) spend the money all the they could give as inheritance, and take on debt to live in the only places capable of supporting you, or B) kill yourself, give your children as much inheritance as possible and hope that you making that decision means your kids might not have to do the same when it's their turn.

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's funny how the person commenting is still saying unable to work as an argument. In what word a 93 able to work should be expected to... work?

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  • [–] 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    How do you even live with yourself if you've been a part of those proceedings?

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You can't be 'the richest country in the world" if 40% of your citizens are in poverty. The US "gov" is corrupt and greedy. This place truly is a shithole...

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    The most disturbing part of this is, she made it to 93, and wasn't able to pay rent. Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

    Like, she's not even just retired, she's elderly. The "Golden years" of wearing a diaper and needing a walker, kind of elderly.

    Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home, the fact that it got to the point where she was hauled off to jail in an orange jumpsuit and cuffs should not have happened. Someone should have stopped and said, "are we really going to try to send a 93 year old to jail?" And that should have been where it stopped. Because that's not something you do to a 93 year old for missing a few rent payments.

    America is cracked man. Should not have gotten there. What the actual fuck.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Man, I only retired 3 years ago, for medical reasons, and with only just enough money. In that 3 years, essentially everything has doubled in cost. In another 3 years it will probably double again. So, it's pretty easy to see me being in a similar situation eventually, although at least I do own my home. Many retired people on fixed incomes are feeling the squeeze....

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    The people living in America exist solely to serve the needs and wants of the oligarchy. If you're not working to make them more entrenched, you are useless and they would really prefer you just die.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

    No. Everytime there is, conservatives cry antichrist and pull Usain Bolt shit trying to get it repealed.

    They're about as close as you get to being the literal Sith... outside of North Korea, I guess.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    This is what republicans seem to want. Thinking THEY will never be in such a situation so they have nothing to worry about.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Y'all should change the dollar bill line from "in God we trust" to "Got mine, fuck you"

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I dont understand why you handcuff people who clearly are not a danger to anyone.

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  • [+] -26 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Because knives are easy to hide, and it only takes one free hand to grab an officers gun.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    That isn't why. That's the excuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    That is in fact why. It only takes a moment of inattention. Even if they are 90 it's not like they move in slow motion or something. Sure, they can slow down with age, but that's not universal.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    So you mean they will house her only in a more expensive and more dehumanizing way.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    But being poor is a crime! She could have invested in crypto and gotten rich off of dumping it, but noooooo!

    She had to "RrTiRe" and "EnJoY hEr wInTeR YeArS". Lazy layabout. She'll learn the value of HARDWORK once she's making license plates, and maybe then she can pull herself up by her bootstraps by investing those $2 a day and earning her keep in about- oh, say a 100 years?

    People live to be 200, right? I don't know, I'm not good with numbers.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    This happens BECAUSE it's the wealthiest country on earth.

    We live in a time of larger wealth disparity than the times of peasants and kings.

    The royals were also really wealthy as they said in ignorance "let them eat cake".

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Except that statement wasn't said by royalty, it's a misattributed mistranslation of a snippet from Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions.
    It was written 9 years before Marie Antoinette became queen and while she was still a child and had not yet traveled to France.
    This is a classic case of the victors writing history. This quote has been used countless times to try to illustrate that the royalty was out of touch (which I'm neither arguing for nor against here,) however there's no evidence it was ever spoken by the Queen - indeed it wasn't attributed to her at all for many years after her death.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Marie Antoinette abducted children from peasant families.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe she did. Doesn't change the fact that using misattributed quotes tends to diminish the perception of the preceding opinion in the eyes of readers.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    I think in this case the quote actually paints her in a better light the reality. You can forgive someone for being sheltered and naive, but you have to be a monster to abduct children from their families.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    There was no mention of child abduction in the comment I was replying to. I was trying to underscore the point that including demonstrably false information in an opinion piece weakens the piece as a whole.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If I were in that position I would do the same. Either they can't evict me or I get sent to prison and I would be kept warm and fed, rather than the streets where I would probably starve or freeze to death.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    They usually just release homeless people charged with petty crimes after the first hearing (24-48 hours) without bail. They can't pay fines, for commissary, phone calls, and all that; or work, so they're not profitable.

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    of course its florida. eventually florida will be evicted by the ocean,

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