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[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 131 points 11 months ago

Fuck ai

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Memory prices are crazy. I bought 96GB of DDR5 6400Mhz sticks for $320 back in February. Now it's $750.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago*

I saw a listing for 1340€ for 96gb. Prices are truly insane

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[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

A couple of months ago I bought 148gb and it was fuck all

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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

64Gb of DDR4 w/ fancy RGB lights in July 2025 for ~$160. Can't imagine paying the current prices.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I believe I paid around $60 for the equivalent in 2015 or so.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

At those prices I will just remember things myself, thank you.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, pencil and paper is back!

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Meat ram making a comeback.

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[–] thomasdouwes@sopuli.xyz 72 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Every time I decide to upgrade my damn computer something like this happens, come on i7-5820K, just a little longer, the prices will drop any time now...

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Planning to upgrade my I7-4790K for a while now... First the GPU shortage and now this...

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[+] JordanZ@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Didnt AMD just announce the 10% price hike?

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Dunno why the downvote.
Anyway, they didnt announce it in public (and allegedly only internally): https://www.techpowerup.com/343197/amd-prepares-10-gpu-price-hike-amid-memory-shortage

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[–] dizzy@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah lol last time I needed a new GPU because mine died, it was pretty much the peak of Ethereum mining. I was doing lots of freelance motion graphics work at the time and needed something beefy but all these guys were buying every high spec card that came out, in bulk, to mine ETH.

Really hoping my 3090 doesn’t suddenly burst into flames in the next few months… fingers crossed.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I got 2x32 GB for 200 € in April. Seems okay for something I am going to use for 10 years again. It was a i7 4790K to Ryzen 9 7900X transition.

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 115 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Fuck AI. There is a use case for simple apps like chatgpt.

But, for most things you don't need AI. Things like chat support for product/services, vibe coded app/website. Its all crap.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All the AI generated video

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 23 points 11 months ago

Yeah, AI video! Useless, we have humans we don't need to burn resources on stupid.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

What was even used for the fake videos before AI? Blender? I legitimately don't know and would like to know.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

The use case for those is doing what we could do on the internet 15 years ago ourselves but it has been so bastardised that it is too inconvenient now.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 months ago*

But, for most things you don’t need AI. Things like chat support for product/services, vibe coded app/website. Its all crap.

I agree, i dont use it for anything useful tho i only use it for entertainment purposes(Like generating stuff)
i usually dont publish or upload the ai generated stuff to the internet(maybe only another llm).
but i am trying to quit/use less AI

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[+] TheBat@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (4 children)

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[–] genau@europe.pub 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe the bubble pops you sooner. 😔

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[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I just hope that the power plants get built then AI collapses so we get cheap power.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I think companies would rather commit seppuku than producing cheap electricity.

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[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago

I'd take the seppuku too, both preferably

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I needed a 32gb kit of ddr4 about 18 months ago... $80

I needed a 32gb kit of ddr4 last week, $160!!! Wtf! Okay.... Let's click order and if it drops I can just return it....

Checked this morning, $225!!!

Holy fuck!

Bought a 2tb SSD last week, $199. Checked prices this morning... $225

[–] ElectricTrombone@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago*

If you still need some DDR4, I can sell you my old set of 64 GB G. Skill RAM. I swapped it out for Corsair just so the RGB would match my other stuff. I'm not looking for a huge profit.

Edit. I read that wrong. Looks like you ordered some last week.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

The Trump Trombone.

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

I spent $160 on 64gb its now $625

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Looks like DDR6 is due in 2027, so DDR5 prices will start to fall in 2-3 years when all the AI bros move over to DDR6 instead.

It might be sooner, but that would mean the AI bubble popped.

Meanwhile, here I am on a PC that's less than two years old with DDR4 in it. Works fine for my needs.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

It might be sooner, but that would mean the AI bubble popped.

Unless the next insanity-driven hype cycle also relies on specific hardware components.

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[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

HBM is what’s used for enterprise AI hardware, and not at all used in the consumer space, at least in recent years

The problem is you need RAM for the OS/General Purpose parts which share the same manufacturing lines as consumer stuff.

On top of all of this, memory companies just aren’t going to prioritize consumers when billions of dollars are coming from Enterprise AI

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I'm genuinely considering putting some cash aside in case the AI bubble does pop so I can load up on cheap PC parts if they start dumping them lol

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 11 months ago

Not really, shortage in one category spills over to the next ones as well

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[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Got it. Buy PS5, harvest memory.

[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Could you actually do this? I assumed it would all be some weird proprietary hardware that wouldn't work in a regular computer setup but I've never really read up on it.

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[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of touch WRT hardware, but it looks like the PS5 uses something called GDDR memory. Your standard desktop or laptop most likely would use DDR. I'm not familiar with GDDR, though I'm guessing just based on the letters that it helps run graphics; still, it probably would not work with your tower or notebook.

I'm sure someone else in the thread can provide a more informed answer.

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[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

You also have DIMM, SODIMM, RDIMM and others which have different pinning.

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago

PS5 memory is soldered to the board

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wonder if this is going to turn into people cutting out catalytic converters, or stripping out copper wiring.

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

So glad I upgraded before this shit got so crazy.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 months ago

same,but DDR4

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/spiking-memory-prices-mean-that-it-is-once-again-a-horrible-time-to-build-a-pc/

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[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Can't really remember the last time it wasn't a horrible time to build a PC.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Pre-COVID, when the Ethereum mining went crazy… so around the time of the RTX 2000 series? Which honestly was pretty lacklustre compared to the GTX 1000 series…

So yeah, it’s been a while!

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's when I build my current machine. Looks like upgrading is off the menu. Again.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

Honestly, if you don’t mind gaming at 1080p, and keeping graphical settings reasonable in order to maintain a playable frame rate - you could be OK for a couple more years.

Otherwise if the upgrade itch just becomes too much, the Steam Machine could very well be a suitable entry point - provided that RAM model prices don’t continue to skyrocket.

I truly cannot wait for the day that the current AI bubble bursts.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

1080 will look a bit small on my screen, but if that's what I have to put up with...

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

last time I built one was in 2012. That was a golden age for PC builds

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[–] HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org 10 points 11 months ago

The return of PlayStation clusters?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

man I'm glad I got my 96gigs last year. fuck this mess.

I'll hold out until the bubble pops and pick it all up for pennies.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I was literally looking prices to upgrade from 32 to 64GB last month. And i was, nah 120€ is too much, I'm ok for now. 320€ today and still climbing....

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I talked myself out of upgrading to 64gb six months ago when I still could have grabbed 32gb of ddr4 for like $80... Kicking myself over that decision

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Man I’m so tired of these skyrocketing prices over everything. Memory, GPUs, car parts, groceries, insurance… fuck. Eating us alive.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm glad I opted to start at 64GB ram on the PC I built about a year ago. Compared to the other parts like CPU and GPU, it felt relatively cheap to bump it up from 32GB.

Wondering if I should pull the trigger on more storage though... Don't really need it right now but eventually I'll probably need some.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you don't have immediate needs, I'd wait.
The AI payments will dry up and factories won't know where to put it.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

Ah too late lol, ended up grabbing a 990 pro 2tb for $200 CAD. Looking around online, there seems to be a bunch of retailers at that price, though mostly the brick and mortar ones. I kinda thought they might be slower to react to quickly moving prices than the more specialist places (I got it from Staples).

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

The price sounds almoat reasonable to me.
Afaik it hovers around that price anyway the last time I looked at it.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I am in the final stages of building two PCs for relatives of mine, and I don't think I did so an hour too soon. I watched RAM double in price the day after I bought it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 11 months ago

A PS5 currently costs less than £300. I can't even get 32GB of RAM for that, let alone a GPU or any of the other parts.

PC gaming is dead for now. The only affordable way is Steam Decks and similar.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In moments like this I always wonder if I should temporarily make my PC unusable by reselling the component that's overpriced.

Then wait out the shortage and buy 4x as much RAM then x)

Almost did it with my GPU during covid.

[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

If you're in the USA I would wait until the dickhead in charge is gone or else you might wake up to find he told Taiwan to eat his ass and charge 600% tariffs on all goods coming from them.

I mean its a joke, but how unlikely would it be really?

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

I'm in Europe, so if anything that would benefit us x)

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[–] b34k@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Did my upgrade back in April. Got 64GB for $240. Now I checked the price on the same kit… $700. Just crazy.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Did we try tariffing them?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

People are panicking but market will correct itself. RAM is basically a solved technology and supply is limited by lack of factories not ability to manufacture.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand, we're currently in the midst of what many people already consider to be an AI bubble, so investing in new DRAM factories might be considered too risky, since the bubble might have popped before it even gets production going.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Good point tho if the bubble does end up popping it'll bring down ram price as the market will be flooded with hardware from closed/reduced farms. But I guess we'll have bigger issues preventing us enjoying the discounts lol

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 11 months ago

Pop goes the bubble

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Fabs take like 5 years to spin up. No one is going to set up another without some kind of guarantee

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Whelp guess I'm not upgrading my PC to ddr5 anytime soon 😂

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I stopped putting it off and built a ddr4 based pc as soon as I could. Didn’t plant it out as much as I normally would and now it’s biting me in the ass somewhat but that’s always part of the fun.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

am lucky i dont plan to upgrade.
but i wonder if only one per customer can buy ram.

[–] sunbunman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

RIP GabeCube 😢

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Boy am I happy I built my PC with 64 GB of DDR5 earlier this year. 😬

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

Hi totally not a mad max fallout style raider just spreading this fun new game: on the count of three let's both say where our pcs are

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

Provided you don't need to upgrade for the next year or two, I think you will eventually have a ton of cheap and quality DDR5 memory to buy. I am looking forward to that, I want to build an endgame Threadripper Pro, and be set for a decade.

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I decided to build a new PC about a month ago. 64gb of ram was $250 and I thought that was excessive.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

damn 64gb would be crazy i should do that

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

wait for the ai bubble to burst

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[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago

I bought the latest of some devices earlier this year, but didn’t have cash to buy a completely new PC. I’ve decided if my older desktop breaks, I’ll just have to get a “cheap” laptop & install Linux. Hopefully things stabilize within the next few years as manufacturers shift production.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

Damn I'm sitting on 16gb of 7000mhz ram, I need to list it

[–] EuroPapa@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

Dang, 16GB of RAM is barely enough these days! I feel you though. Maybe you can list it and get some cash for that expensive upgrade.