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[–] 99 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 141 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    that cable management is extraordinary.

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I would like to buy a bier to this dude and ask him what he thinks about the dead internet theory

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    "I get paid enough that it's worth beating the corpse. Funny fuckin' world we live in, huh?"

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Worst thing is, they don't make that much more money than some repeatable manual labor, but instead of being useful to the society, they help destroy it.

    Internet was a mistake.

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    What's going on here?

    Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?

    For what purpose? Clicks and likes?

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?

    On Android, you can enable ADB over Wifi, then you just connect to those IP addresses to share the screen and control the device.

    They use real devices because every devices likely has a separate mobile data running and unique identifiers tied to those device, apps and configuration, which makes them appear authentic users and hence fool automatic spam detection systems.

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Never heard of him. (Let's normalize this response.)

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    If I'd be stuck doing this, I'd start writing personalities for the alts.

    This Xiaomi 10s is Greg, his wife Lauren (Pixel 3a) left him because he slapped her eleven years into their marriage. He begged her to come back, but Lauren is too afraid to end up like her friend Emy (Galaxy with flickering screen), to get caught up in the cycle of "leave-forgive". The ladies are meeting on Friday, posting similar pictures of wine glasses into their feeds.

    Greg sees his son twice a month (an iphone, the small one they stopped making awhile ago). Lately he can't seem to get rid of the thought that he's not doing it because he wants to, but because "that's what fathers do". The next visit will be his last, he'll switch to sending cards and racist tweets about Mamdani.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Greg is a Xiaomi, wife is a Pixel but his son is an iPhone? I think Lauren has been unfaithful and Greg should get a paternity test

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    How dare you, Greg would never abandon his child because he was adopted.

    No, he's going to do it because he harbors deep resentment for what he became, what he could've been. Any time someone perceives him feels like a metaphorical slap across his face, not unlike the real physical one he in his wrathful impotence inflicted onto Laura.

    Greg needs therapy, but he's only getting it later in his 50s because I enjoy imagining pathetic people. It's very normal do not think into it.

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  • [–] 53 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Je suis Charlie.

    Oh shit wrong Charlie.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It took me a second but that’s hilarious

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  • [–] 77 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    "I am a Ukrainian and I support Russia"

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    Back in my day we called them multiboxers

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Why actually separate devices and not, like, VMs or something?

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    You buy a cheap phone. No need to pay for license, setup anything except a vpn maybe and you are good to go.

    Setting up lots of VM takes a decent computer, some licenses and a know how.

    A phone, you just start it and it connects to a VPN and your good to go.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    What license would be required? I just use qemu.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    VMWare is popular for a reason. qemu is less accessible for the non-tech people of this world.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Compared to the last VMware GUI I saw qemu GUIs I tried seemed more accessible but for scripting the CLI is better anyways. Maybe VMware simplified it since I last saw it? I thought VMware was mostly popular for ESXi servers which qemu isn't really comparable to, proxmox is the open equivalent I'm aware of.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    You can always improve an operation with more complex tech and more money. At the lower levels, you can just smash a car window and grab the valuables. This is likely a basic startup. It works, makes money. Scope increase comes later.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Good luck running iOS that way

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    This explains a lot, like how MAGA is everywhere online but I only ever see a few "in the wild".

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    This has always been known and the morons have always chosen to ignore it. It won't be different this time.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They still managed to fill two stadiums with real people because the weird nazi died.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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    From a networking perspective I'm impressed.

    Yeah, high density APs that can handle a lot of clients exist, in theory...but in practice you can't expect many devices to be simultaneously in-use. Having this many clients per square foot? SNR for those phones must be terrible. Amazing it works.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)

    Don't know why you're getting down voted. It is indeed impressive that all those WiFi radios are working that close together. There's another wall of phones behind it, double! Probably more in the room too.

    There's gotta be 100 phones on that first wall alone, plus double it, so 200. More in the room? Other rooms? Hundreds of phones, all screaming out WiFi, trying to connect.

    From a networking perspective, impressive indeed. Those phones must hate life.

    Edit: heck I bet most consumer grade routers DHCP servers would choke after the first 255 clients (probably much sooner) just from having to change subnets. I'm not a networkologist though so IDK for sure

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

    The phones are all wired, so I could imagine they receive LAN via USB-C. That would make the whole setup not that difficult.

    On the other side, these phones don't need to be all active at the same time. I could imagine that they just switch on the Wifi while interacting with one of the phones.

    Edit: Check out this post. There you can see the USB-to-LAN dongles hanging off the phones.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

    As for turning WiFi on and off, that could work too, didn't think of that. But I feel like maybe not? Surely the apps would complain or get suspicious of only connecting to make a quick comment and then disconnecting again, every single time. Or maybe not.

    I just imagine companies trying to fight this somehow, and that would be a suspicious fingerprint.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

    You don't actually need to adapt out of it. There are Ethernet-over-USB switches that output to USB directly. So all you need are USB cables, and you need them anyway to provide power. So all you are doing (compared to just power over USB) is to use an Ethernet-over-USB switch instead of an USB PSU.

    Here's the first one I found on google: https://www.digi.com/products/networking/infrastructure-management/usb-connectivity/usb-over-ip/anywhereusb

    The one they advertise on that website has 24 USB outputs, but I'm sure you can find bigger ones. And from them you only need a single patch cable to the next proper switch.

    There's about 100 phones on the panel and another 100 on the other side, so that would be maybe 8 or 9 of these switches, all wired together into a 10 port switch and that one then is fed by a single input line.

    The upside for a setup like this is that the bandwidth requirements per device are minuscule. It's a lot of devices, but they aren't doing anything for most of the time. That's quite the opposite of what we usually plan for when designing a regular network where if we have hundreds of devices we expect them to actually do something as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    This is USB over IP, not IP over USB.

    The product you linked is for USB devices to be able I be used over a network. One common use-case is getting hardware license tokens (on a USB dongle) accessible to a virtual machine...especially when that VM can move dynamically between hosting servers for load-balancing or fail-over.

    The closest I've seen is a cart intended for tablets or Chromebooks that gives 60W PD + Ethernet over one USB-C port. So something similar exists. I think with this though, you had to bring your own Ethernet switch.

    I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Then take this one: https://m.made-in-china.com/product/USB-to-Ethernet-8-Ports-Switch-2079770325.html

    But even if you can't find an off-the-shelf solution for this, it's trivial to DIY one. One USB controller can feed 127 devices maximum. You'll obviously need powered USB hubs for that, but that's not an issue. This works because when you enable USB tethering, the phone can be in USB device mode while getting IP over USB. The main issue here is the routes, but if you use an app that creates a local VPN on the phone to capture the traffic you can then tunnel that traffic through the tethering connection, using it in the reverse direction. Now you only need a PC with many USB controllers (easily done using PCI-E extension cards) and you are done.

    Setup is a little complicated, but you only need to configure it once and then copy it over to all the phones.

    I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.

    I haven't seen any devices so far that can deliver high wattage on multiple ports at the same time, so I think the PD is probably the bigger limit.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

    for usb-c? $10 each, nonbulk, on aliexpress is what I see, a worthwhile investment for a farm like this

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Edit: heck I bet most consumer grade routers DHCP servers would choke after the first 255 clients (probably much sooner) just from having to change subnets. I’m not a networkologist though so IDK for sure

    As somewhat of a networkologist I can say that most home routers use the 192.168.something.x IP range. With a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, this means that you could put 253 devices on the network (2 of the IPs aren't usable for devices). After that, you would have to change your subnet mask to something larger, which is easily doable in router config. However, a home router likely wouldn't work well with even just 100 devices connected. WiFi is also half duplex, meaning it can only send or receive, but not both at the same time. This would make the speed unbearably slow. You would really need multiple access points to have this many devices.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    My previous router (ASUS) crapped out at about 30 clients on 2.4GHz. New one (TP-Link Archer) is doing fine with somewhere between 30 and 40 depending on whether some clients connect to 2.4/5/6GHz, and about 50 clients total once I count wired and docker containers.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    So are they all on mobile data to get different IPs? Or is there a vpn thing to get around that?

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I wonder what those people get paid - imagine shitposting for a living

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Average Reddit Thread be like:

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    She looks more like Coraline

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I think kids are singing it because it's a joke. Another one is "What's diddy blud doing on the calculator? It's blud Einstein."

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    The record ain't gonna correct itself

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  • [+] -21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    FYI both sides got exposed. Every political account on Twitter is a spammer. No one would use twitter for enjoyment. Not enough hours a day to have a small audience.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody's taking about any left leaning fake accounts. Proof?

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    Seriously, if centrists found out that they were actually right about something, the gloating would be unbearable.

    They spent all of 2024 shrieking that anyone who didn't love genocide as much as they do was a russian. So if there were actual russians saying that genocide is bad, centrists would never stop crowing about it.

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