It says it will finish the code, it doesn't say the code will work.

Ooh, unemployment! How exciting! I love Microsoft now.

Copilot keeps finishing my code for me in near real time... it completely disrupts my train of thought and my productivity dropped tremendously. I finally disabled it.

I LIKE writing code, stop trying to take the stuff away that I WANT to do and instead take away the stuff I HATE doing.

yes but all the code will be wrong and you will spend your entire day chasing stupid mistakes and hallucinations in the code. I'd rather just write the code myself thanks.

What they forget to mention is that you then spend the rest of the week to fix the bugs it introduced and to explain why your code deleted the production database...

I had a bit of a breakthrough with some personal growth with my code today.

I learned a bit more about entity framework that my company is using for a project, and was able to create a database table, query it, add/delete/update, normal CRUD stuff.

I normally work mostly on front end code, so it was rewarding to learn a new skill and see the data all the way from the database to the UI and back - all my code. I felt great after doing a code review this afternoon to make sure I wasn’t missing anything, and we talked about some refactoring to make it better.

AI will never give you that.

I was finished with Windows before Microshit finished Copilot.

"Microsoft Says Copilot" is like a Two Sentence horror story for me now.

Love how they're pretending that an LLM is useful for any task that needs precision.

Actually it won't be finishing anything because code is disposable now and nobody cares what trivial app somebody can churn out

Because you won't have time to drink that coffee if you put this code into production

And it will leave you debugging strange code for two weeks afterward.

So why don't they use it to unfuck Windows 11... before I finish my coffee?

I mean it gets there in the end but it's often three of four prompts before it provides working code for a relatively simple powershell script. Can't imagine that it scales to complex code that well at the moment, but then again I'm not a coder.

But, will it work, huh? HUH?

I can also type a bunch of random sentences of words. Doesn’t make it more understandable.

These fuckers at MicroShit have lost all the ability needed to read a room.

Big over-promise. We're heavily incentived to use an AI coding agent at work. I try to be optimistic and treat it like a tool to help me do things I already know how to do but a little bit faster. It takes multiple iterations of "no, this still isn't working" to get something that I can touch up and push for review. The idea that I can prompt it and then step away for ten minutes to make coffee and return to an app is ludicrous.

Maybe one day that will be possible. Then I'll find a new job I guess

My problem is that the dev and stage environments are giving me 502 gateway errors when hitting only certain api endpoints from the app gateway. My real problem is devops aren't answering my support tickets and telling me which terraform var file I gotta muck with and tell me what to fix on it. I'm sure you'll be fixed soon though right copilot?

But... But I don't want it to. 😮‍💨

Writing code is the reward for doing the thinking. If the LLM does it then software engineering is no fun.

It's like painting - once you've finally finished the prep, which is 90% of the effort, actually getting to paint is the reward

I would rather paint a portrait by myself, spending the time to do it, rather than asking some computer prompt to spit me out a picture. Same logic applies with coding for me.

By the headline statement, that it should be complete and works 100%. Big doubt.

It's great at bullshitting that it did what you wanted, even if it obviously didn't, which I guess is what counts for results at Microsoft.

It would be much better if they treated it as the slightly better (yeah, I said it) auto complete that it is instead of the beginning of fucking sky net -- which was supposed to be a bad thing anyway, remember?

But that wouldn't move the needle on all of the share prices, so instead we have to pretend it can do people's jobs when it fucking obviously cannot.

So, instead they keep pushing this AI (auto-complete insanity), and keep burning more and more cash. Imagine if we just put a portion of these billions (approaching trillions) into anything that could actually help anyone. Or don't, because it's pretty fucking depressing to think about.

I can drink coffee pretty slow, but I don't think I can drink it that slow

If thats what they are aiming at, I feel like their AI is actually suppose to be the pilot and the user the copilot

To safely put it out just pee on it.

In my experience, which consists of using copilot for about ten minutes, literally every single suggestion is wrong, and if you're not careful it'll insert the shitty code and then you have to go back and find out why the code isn't working.

I'd rather have Lizzo shum on my face than use copilot

Technically true, but nobody said the code will be at all functional. I'm pretty sure I can finish about 800000 coffees before Copilot generates anything usable that is longer than 3 lines.

Make it de the shit I don't want to do, then we'll talk

The only time I use copilot is when I am bored at work and I make jokes with it.

I would like to someday use AI to remaster Stars!, Magic Carpet, and Judgment Rites. However, it won't be through co-pilot, because I fundamentally don't trust Microsoft.

In any case, I think genuine "hands off" development from an AI would be at least a decade off. Partially just for it to have the ability, but also for local hardware to support it. (I only use local AI, but a 100b like GLM is slow as heck on my gaming rig.)

I do NOT want to have ditch Windows after this long. Microsoft. Please don't just carve a big, Copilot-pilot-shape hole out of Windows and weld it in there, expecting that that is somehow what your users want.

Of course, I do look forward to the brave new era of "Sam Altman will shut you down unless" being the new "run as administrator"

...but what am I going to do while it's compiling?

yeah but then you have to fix everything in the code that they didn't get right.

like using it to automate a shell is fine; but trusting it blindly and treating it as the finishing product? you're delusional.