A New Jersey woman who was found bound with zip ties in the woods and marked with a derogatory phrase referencing President Donald Trump is now accused of staging the attack.

Natalie Greene, 26, is charged with conspiracy to convey false statements and hoaxes and making false statements to federal law enforcement.

According to court documents, Greene and a co-conspirator called 911 late July 23 and claimed that three men had attacked them on a trail at the Egg Harbor Township Nature Reserve. The co-conspirator told dispatchers the men referenced Greene by name and mentioned her job in politics. According to reports, Greene previously worked for a Republican congressman.

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[–] 172 points 11 months ago (23 children)

Me: I wonder how they know it was staged

But investigators later concluded Greene had staged the attack, alleging she paid a body modification artist earlier to make it look like she was injured. Officers also found zip ties in Greene’s vehicle similar to those used on her, and the co-conspirator’s phone had been used two days earlier to search “zip ties near me."

Lol

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  • [–] 61 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I wasn't aware zip ties were that hard to find for some people

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  • [–] 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I guess when you order everything online your whole life, you may never develop a sense of what stores and what departments items are usually sold in. 🤔

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a regular customer at home improvement stores, and I make it a point to occasionally just go wander down aisles I haven't been down in a while and just browse through what's available.

    It's not uncommon for me to exclaim, "Oh! I didn't know THAT existed?" or "Oh! THAT'S what that's called/where to get those!". Other times it's, "What on earth is THAT for?!?" but then 6 months later I'll be like, "BRB, gotta go get one of those things."

    I'm of the opinion that even people that don't own/maintain their own home would benefit from the esoteric knowledge of what can be found on the bottom shelf in the back corner of their local home improvement stores. I don't care what your hobby or passion is. If you don't frequent the home improvement stores, there's probably something there that you can repurpose for your own benefit that you'll wish you knew existed a year ago.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If you have them nearby, it’s also good to know what’s at building/home resale places, like Habitat for Humanity re-store. Many of them have a lot more variety than you’d think, including furniture, tools, chains and wires, paint, etc. in addition to building materials. Sometimes they get big donations of new stuff like tile, lightbulbs, or insulation. I just got 10 LED lightbulbs for $3.50 total.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Excellent point, yes. The one near us frequently has the weirdest stuff. Last summer we were browsing around and they had some fancy office desk made by some well known artist with a $40k price tag. It was just shoved back in the corner with a bunch of $5-20 desks and tables.

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Did... did this idiot think they weren't going to go to the hospital with her and then when the ER doc tried to clean the wound it... wiped away...that the police were going to just think the 3 guys where just wanting to have a dress up tea party or something.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    These fuckers dont even know tk clear their own cache and cookies...

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    That doesn't mean anything. They can request your browsing history directly from your ISP

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Unless you know something we don't, your ISP shouldn't know much about your browsing history

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    The ISPs don't know what exactly you saw on the site because of SSL, but they're processing your traffic and have complete visibility of which IPs you visit. If you keep the default ISP DNS server they also know which domain names. As far as I know, the only way to keep your ISP completely in the dark is to use VPN, plus a third-party DNS server, plus DNS encryption.

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  • [–] 147 points 11 months ago (18 children)

    They really like to manufacture unreality and sell it as true.

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  • [–] [S] 88 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    This one is super weird though. Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her? I'm guessing she's another alcoholic for trump. Regardless, she's in for a ride:

    Each count carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

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  • [–] 84 points 11 months ago

    Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her?

    Many MAGAts that face social consequences for their MAGAtism cry victim and and then circled with attention and monetary support by other MAGAts. Since they aren't actually victims and they want the attention, they manufacture the victim status.

    Sadly this isn't confined to MAGAts. Actor Jussie Smollett did the same thing attempting to manufacture victimhood of a hate crime. What really angers me about Smollett is that there are real victims of race based hate crimes and his antics cast doubt on those other real victim's situations.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why in the world would anyone hog tie someone like that and then write shit about trump on her?

    For the same reason these people think that someone would Sharpie "FUCK ICE" onto a clip of bullets after killing only detainees at an ICE facility, and then just plop it on the ground.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They want to start a civil war.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Presidential pardon incoming.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Edit: This was federal charges being brought, 2 counts. See comment below for further details on the absolute insanity of these shenanigans.

    Doesn't apply to state. The governor would need to do that, and neither the current nor the next is going to be interested in that.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I figured if the DOJ was investigating it was federal.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    Yup you are right, in another article (much earlier) they mentioned charges by the state, but this one calls out the DOJ specifically.

    The other article was crap, apparently.

    Not only did she call 911, she reached out to and told the FBI she had been receiving threatening messages. As it turns out, the messages they did find were with a scarification artist (I didnt know that was a thing) in PA, along with a copy of the receipt for about $500 in work she had done just prior to the "event". Along with a reddit account where she followed scarification and body mod subreddits. The scarification artist performed the work based on a design she provided.

    So the charges came through the US AG for NJ, not the NJ AG per the other shitty article.

    The original investigation was by township, county, and state officials, and I guess with her claims that brought on FBI involvement as well.

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  • [–] 75 points 11 months ago

    Really stupid. She could have just said a slur on tik tok and been a millionaire from donations by now.

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    NOT familiar at all! Nuh-uh!

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    A racist trying to make it look like he was the victim of a hate crime. That's a Mississippi state flag in front of him, Confederate version.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago*

    This is the shit children do. Like LITTLE kids, like under 10 when they try to "trick" you. I remember doing something like this when I was maybe 7. I pretended to be crushed by a pile of fallen (empty cardboard) boxes. My mom walked by and just ignored me.

    Imagine being A FULLY GROWN MAN. Yikes

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    As if that's what someone would write when spray painting a Nazis home. 🙄

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    I hope a critter peed on her

    Edit: anyone who can’t guess where to buy zip ties is a moron

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Jesus, I had to go into the article to figure out what you were talking about and it's so pathetic.

    But investigators later concluded Greene had staged the attack, alleging she paid a body modification artist earlier to make it look like she was injured. Officers also found zip ties in Greene’s vehicle similar to those used on her, and the co-conspirator’s phone had been used two days earlier to search “zip ties near me."

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I know where to buy regular zip ties for like bundling things or securing wires, but I gotta be honest; other than online, I don't know where I would go to buy zip tie hand cuffs. Do you?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    She didn’t specify handcuffs. The search was simply “zip ties near me”

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    So you think she tied herself up with regular old zip ties? Based only on that?

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    That was very Smollett-minded of her.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This should serve as a reminder that fascists will do ANYTHING to get what they want.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago*

    Also should serve as a reminder that you should believe NOTHING they say or claim, no matter how atrocious, because the chances of it being bullshit are higher than it being truth, and what nothing more than to provoke civil unrest if not outright civil war with their lies and bullshit.

    Isnt she also covered in scars cause she said the imaginary liberals cut her up?

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago

    This should convince most folks the right are trying to start a civil war, but it won't.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    This is worse than the Bowling Green Massacre!

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago

    I’m more surprised the DOJ is going after her for this rather than giving her a medal.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Why is it always the right entangling themselves in crime?

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