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[–] 161 points 11 months ago (23 children)

in australia they’re still everywhere because when i government sold our state telco they mandated that they maintain the pay phone network at reasonable prices

that doesn’t sound particularly comment-worthy on its own so here’s the cool part: turns out collecting coins is more expensive than the money they got from it so they just stopped charging and now all our pay phones are not only still everywhere, but entirely free and have free wifi embedded in them

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Nope that was comment worthy without the other half.

    However the second part is super rad in a way only people who grew up with the word “rad” can really understand. Or whatever the Aussie equivalent of 90s slang for “cool” would be.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    rad works :p you could go with BONZA MATE if you’re really putting it on ahah

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I'd be shit out of luck using a payphone in today's world.

    I don't remember anyone's phonenumbers except my teenage girlfriend's family, because while she has changed her phone number, the mother and brother were just 1 number off so I remember them, especially because the first 7 numbers are same as mine.

    But aside from that, idk, maybe my own mother and brother.

    But I haven't learned a phone number in fucking decades.

    Pretty cool though as you know they're there, so either you can use the WiFi with your own device or just remember a few numbers in case you run out of charge.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    yeah - i mostly see them as a public good for low income or homeless people… it allows them a lot of different places they can place free phone calls… perhaps not ideally as private as you’d like to deal with medical or social security things, but services exist for that too - just pay phones are everywhere

    also i guess for calling 000 (our 911)

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Ironically, for homeless people a smartphone is a great investment, since the web allows finding support services and such stuff. But free wifi from the booths is probably great. Idk where they're charging the phones, though — perhaps at sympathetic businesses.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    absolutely correct! i used to work for a not for profit that built a big service search engine (largely used for crisis helplines, medical referrals etc) and released a phone app specifically for help finding homeless support services

    there are power points in maccas, food courts, libraries, and even randomly dotted around cities outside for maintenance

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    You haven't learned new numbers in decades but you have a teenage girlfriend?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Everywhere is a bit of an exaggeration they are definitely still around but nowhere nearly as prolific as they where in the 90s. Also anything that wasn't owned by Telecom/Telstra is long gone.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I'm surprised that they didn't just embed a card reader in the phones.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Still not really feasible. The card charges on a $0.20 call would be "unreasonable".

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Depends on how you define unreasonable….

    We still have some really cheap parking meters. For example to keep people from using the library parking lot all day, there is a meter and 2 hour limit. It’s only a quarter for half an hour or maybe even an hour.

    But who carries quarters anymore? There’s an app for that. You can pay by app. Each quarter has a quarter surcharge. I think that’s unreasonable and refuse but a lot of people are ok with it. I say “100% fee is unreasonable” but they say “25¢ fee is cheap and convenient ”.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I have seen payphones around... like, at all. I've seen the iconic bright pink lit up tops and wifi symbol so I can attest that they are indeed still around, but it's very uncommon to see them. There's not a whole lot left and to say they're "everywhere", I mean... I haven't been interstate for a while but, what part of Australia are you in that these are a common fixture for you?

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago* (11 children)

    Not only were there public pay phones everywhere, but if you dialed zero, a person we called The Operator would immediately answer and you could ask them to look up a phone number for you or ask them to dial a number for you. This operator would pick up when you dialed zero from your home landline too.

    Wait until you find out about all the free water fountains literally everywhere so if you were thirsty you could just stop and get an ice cold drink of water and go about your day.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    In the UK you could also sign up for a thing where you dialed 144 and then an account number and you could call anywhere without coins and it would charge it to your home phone bill. I still have that ~15-digit phone number memorized from when I was a kid lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    no the free water fountains still exist...

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Free water fountains still exist but good luck finding a public bathroom in walking distance of said fountain. I literally have every port a potty mesmerized in my city because no one will let you use the bathroom, even then some get locked up or completely removed 🥲

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    How do you mesmerize a port a potty? I'm almost afraid to ask, but here I am lol

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Well I pass one on my bike and make a mental note. I live in smallish city so for me its essential to know. I have peed in alleyways and bushes off the trails but I much prefer the privacy of the port a potty, or an actual bathroom. There use to be some by the hotels and recently renovated buildings, also in some parks. I been out of commission cause I broke my collarbone, biking, so I don't know a lot of the recent spots admittedly

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I love the public washrooms in parks that are closed 'after hours', despite the park facilities being rented out for adult sports outside of those hours

    they're really streamlining that sex offender pipeline by telling adults to piss in the woods next to a park, often near a school

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Not where I am. They turned off the old ones--even the ones that were in parks. I see one here and there but they used to be literally everywhere. Every store had one either inside or out front. Every park had them. Every downtown area had them at every block.

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago
    [–] 25 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I saw horses in Western movies, surely they could have just driven to the gunfight?

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    [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    I used to give out a payphone number as my own back before i had a cell. It was close to where I hung out with friends, so there was a decent chance I would be there if you called.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There's a single payphone still standing at the end of the road in the town nearest me. It was disconnected when I found it, but I got phreaky and hooked it back up + bypassed the coin mechanism. Mostly out of nostalgia, partly for the love of fixin' stuff :)

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Neato. Out of all of those I passed in my travels, the last one I could tell you the location of off the top of my head was this one, but I notice that as of this year it's also gone. If you check the latest Street View image you'll see the cables dangling from where it used to be. There ain't no hooking this one back up, alas, unless you bring your own.

    Note the horse and buggy. Where we are standing is indeed out in the sticks.

    I was in a random diner somewhere in Appalachia this year which had a functioning payphone and one of those old pull-knob cigarette vending machines in the back. I don't recall exactly where it was. I should have taken a picture or written it down.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    There was a bank of five or six payphones in the common area at my high school. Someone found out there was a number you could call which, after you hung up would immediately generate a callback to the phone it was called from. It was not uncommon to have all the phones ringing constantly.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    We had a deaf school in our high school, so one of the payphones had a keyboard and an operator would read your messages to the other party. My friend used to use it to call his friend and see how many dirty words he could get the operator to say.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    When I managed a hardware store back in the day we got scam calls fairly regularly via these types of teletext-to-operator schemes. It was always some bullshit about somebody needing 144 chainsaws or 200 lawn mowers or some shit, and they always wanted to try to pay with a check routing number, and they always wanted it delivered sight unseen to some highly suspicious location. It must have been extra infuriating for the operators, because they know damn well it's a scam but apparently they weren't allowed to interject or add to the conversation in any way to tell the recipient this. Of course we knew what was up, so I'd instruct the operator to relay to the scammer the longest and most inventive list of insults I could think of to see if I could get them to giggle. The operator, that is. Not the scammers.

    I presume the scammers were connecting to the phone network via the internet, probably itself dial-up at the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    weren’t allowed to interject or add to the conversation in any way

    I think the best they can do is press a button that says they've "become biased" and will connect you to another operator. My friend got them to do that once.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    My high school only had one pay phone. It had a bad connection in the hand set, so sound cut in and out constantly. People rarely ever bothered making calls on it. The coin return also had some sort of obstruction inside it. If you inserted a quarter and then hit the coin return lever, you'd hear it fall, but it didn't actually come out. When enough quarters built up though, they would all flood out into return tray at once. Naturally, it got used as a slot machine. Drop in a quarter, pull the tiny lever, and see if you hit the jackpot.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Oh my god, this is wild! You know who would like this meme? My friend, Tony

    Operator, connect me to Tony, please

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I worked for a company back in the '00s that made most of their money off of pay phones. Even 20 years ago pay phones were obsolete so I was somewhat mystified by this during my job interview. Turns out they managed pay phones in prison - which are still a thing.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Calling bullshit on this. I never received a telegraph, but I never assumed they were made up for the movies. This kid is either a troll or a moron.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I don’t disagree but in his defence pay phones used to be everywhere and are practically gone today vs relatively few telegraph offices.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    True, but it was pretty common in old movies for someone to go down to a hotel lobby and have the clerk say, "Sir, this came for you," then hand them a message where every 3rd word was, "stop." It didn't make much sense to me, but I didn't think it was made up for the movies.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Also, kids today still know what a phone is and what its used for. It doesn't take a genius to realise that phone boxes aren't needed anymore now that everyone has a phone in their pocket.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Pay phones were cool. As teens, we used to go spend the summer camping with my friends in a super remote place and the only thing available connecting us with our parents was the pay phone. We'd go there twice a week to tell them we're still alive and will eventually come back home if we run out of food.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Somebody should describe the insane hack to these youngins where you can make a collect call to your parents from a pay phone and tell them your name is "HEY COME PICK ME UP!"

    It's like you can send information to somebody across town without having coins in your pocket!

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I remember trying to find quarters to call my mom to come pick me up.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    We had an automated reverse charges number we'd call from the payphone. You got to say your name and the system would then call my parents at home and ask "Do you accept a reverse charge call from 'mumimatthestation'?"

    Then my mum would hang up and come get me from the station.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    Yep! A friend would occasionally walk to the nearest payphone, initiate a collect call, and when it asked for a name he would state the payphone number (we didn't have caller id). He'd hang up and I could call the payphone and we would make our plans.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago*

    I remember in NYC, I think once my dad's phone either ran out of battery or forgot to bring it... so he used the payphones, and the conversation had to be quick because otherwise you gotta put in more quarters. I think it was just to know where to meet up or something, cuz we lived in Brooklyn and some of our relatives were in Manhattan, and so we'd just meet like every so often especially like holidays. I remember being in that Chinese Restaunt near Canal St... like often.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Where I live, not only do they still exist, but they're also free to use and occasionally also offer free wifi. Why? No idea tbh, my guess is the government contract probably required the provider to keep them working for a certain amount of time.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Hang on, I'm getting a page.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Ah man. This kind of shit makes me feel old dammit.

    I had a payphone booth close to my house that I somehow got the actual number of, meaning you could call that booth. I used it to communicate secretly with my GF at the time, to keep my parents from knowing (this was before cellphones).

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You carry payphones in your pockets nowadays

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    About 10 years ago my kids went to a summer camp with a pay phone. The thing is they weren’t allowed to use cellphones in any public area plus reception was horrible, so they had to learn

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Great, now I'm reminded of a project I abandoned and the pile of weird business cards I have in my junk drawer...

    I set up a toll-free number a year or so back with the idea of finding (eventually) all remaining payphones in public spaces in my city, white listing the numbers and leaving a card inviting folks to call. I stopped after about a week and like 10 phones, meaning to get back to it and never did.

    Did run into people legitimately using them while doing so though, which was slightly unexpected.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    as a kid i had a phone card. they were introduced the year i was born and by the time i was eight, the payphones no longer took cash.

    turns out, when living out in the country there aren't that many payphones either. i could call home from school, which was a few towns over from where i lived, or from the bus terminal which was in yet another town even further away. it was a strange time, but we made it work for like seven years.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    You have a call from "mom come get me" would you like to accept the charges?

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    It turns out people like using the phone in their pocket more than the one used by strangers, tagged, with none of their numbers and a ripped up phone book attacked to a hard plastic case, that always makes your hands smell like metal after you dial.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    yeah, but Im over here trying to figure out how to connect an old Nortel Millennium so that the display works for caller ID.... (I want to put one of these in the garden)

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    You've got a payphone you're trying to setup? That's awesome! I've always wanted something like that, but I would have to be able to make it actually work.

    Currently I got hold of an old 1950's wall-mounted rotary phone and it's hooked to a Bluetooth adapter that makes it work via my cell phone.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Havn't bought one yet. Just eyeing my next project (realistically 2 projects from now). I narrowed down the Millennium cause I think I could get the most utility out of it. If I were to really do it how I would like Id need a pbx and thats a project Im definitely not willing to take on for some time.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    Well, and the whole 'unlimited nationwide calling for $20 a month' (at least in the states) replacing '$2 a minute with a $19.99 line fee per month' making cell phones a lot more financially feasible playing a tiny role in this, too...

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Matt Damon aging meme.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    In my city there is only 1 payphone (that I know off) and it is literally just used as a decoration. Like red box for 1 person. It probably had it's use in the past, but now is mere decoration in city centre.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Ive seen a couple in New York and several when I visted Palestine

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Oh, Kiddy...

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They're still pretty common in Japan

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't exactly say common. I really needed one when I was in Tokyo about 10 years back and had a hell of a time finding one. And in the countryside you can pretty much forget about it these days

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