The real shocker is the number of people who don't.
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Yeah, I get why women don't want to live here, particularly in states that have banned abortion. It's fucked up, and I don't fault them for abandoning their country.
I do hope enough of us keep fighting, though.
Who'd have thunk treating a demographic like shit and taking away all their rights would cause them to leave!?
And yet enabled by other women
https://truthout.org/articles/yes-55-percent-of-white-women-voted-for-trump-no-im-not-surprised/
Yes, 55 Percent of White Women Voted for Trump. No, I’m Not Surprised.
It’s time to stop coddling white women when they bolster white supremacy, and to push for concrete acts of solidarity.
I wouldnt mind moving out of the US.
I'm not a woman but it's been my dream for years. Now that I have a child it's my goal to help him escape.
Quite a few European countries including the UK I believe are starting to develop policies that would help highly educated Americans get citizenship on a fast track scheme. We don't want a lot of scientific knowledge to go away just because America has decided to fall apart. Come work on our particle accelerators, experimental fusion reactors, or join the European space agency. It would be nice if we could have human space flight independent of Roscosmos and NASA. Maybe we could even beat NASA back to the moon, since I can't really see Artemis making any progress anytime soon.
I don't think anyone's got as far as actually implementing any of these policies yet, but they're on the way.
I'm sure China would also happily accept Americans, but you might not want to go that route.
Did I mention I have an art degree lol. However my wife is an engineer, I'm trying to convince her but it's slow going. She doesn't think it's as urgent as I do
Same. My wife doesn't want to be far away from family.
I've got 2 kids and I want them to have a better life.
I've looked into emigrating and I'm afraid I just don't have the spoons for it either. Between those 2 hurdles, I don't know if it'll ever happen.
Still, there's potential. We both have degrees. I just hope she doesn't become a target. She's a little higher profile.
Makes sense, I'm mostly just trying to determine where to go at this point.
I was really hopeful about new Zealand, but it appears they have their own pedorrists to deal with
You can get by pretty well with just English in Scandinavia, Britain, and Ireland. Many of the big cities also have a lot of English speakers.
The easiest way to move is if you can find a job or have a lot of money to invest. Also sometimes possible to get citizenship through your family. I'd recommend hunting for jobs on LinkedIn if you're in a specialized field, or see if there are any offices near you for a European company.
If none of that is possible for you, I would recommend moving to a large left-wing city with good trains like NYC, Philadelphia, Portland, etc. They'll be closer culturally to Europe, less vulnerable to fascism, and may give you more job opportunities toward Europe in the long run.
"Also older women. And younger men. And older men."
Saw a Fox News version of this article. The comments were nauseating 🤮
Who can blame them? From what I've seen out of young men and the rise of the "red pill" culture, women are more objectified than ever IMO
Yeah, I would too if I went on a road trip across the country and gained and lost human rights as I crossed state borders.
The irony is the Conservatives wanted women's rights removed and have them back at home to make white babies, because they fear the mixed culture. And they may now be left with a country mostly made of men, which will obviously shrink their baby birthing plan.
And nobody will have babies with economy bad because women at home. But that's too complicated for them.
Huh, I'm an older woman who wants to leave.
Most do not have the money but to barely survive.
I've been living in China for 25 years. My salary is 1/10 of what I made in Canada (Ottawa) but I'm much better off than the colleagues I left behind right now.
I live in that city basically nobody outside of China ever heard of until 2020. 😉
Cost of living in Canada has shot up stupidly in Canada in the past two years on top of the already pretty stupid costs vs. salaries. I was making quite a bit of money, but I still had to pay close attention to my budget.
In China my salary is a tenth of what my Canadian salary was 25 years ago and I rarely have to worry about money. It's quite liberating.
Talking of cost of living, however...
In ... I want to say 2007? ... an old colleague and his wife visited my SO and me for six weeks. When he got back home he started going over their finances, cringing at the anticipated expenses.
They'd saved money.
They spent a ridiculous sum on airfare. They lived in a hotel near my home for the entire six weeks. We ate out for each meal daily. And yet, when they got home, between the drastic reduction in their utilities usage over the period and the zero cost in groceries for six weeks they came out ahead (by about two weeks, according to his analysis).
What are your favorite snacks in China?
This is going to sound weird because of a vocabulary issue, but ... sweet potato jerky. ("Jerky" is just the closest word I can use for what this stuff really is, but it doesn't cover how tender, sticky, and oh-so-sweet that it is.) "Spicy sticks" are also a guilty pleasure of mine. I grab a pack every second day or so and just eat them over the course of a day at work. And there's any number of street foods I love, with 锅盔 being my current favourite.
Are you fluent in both Mandarin and Cantonese?
Nope. Never touched Yue, Wu, Gan, Min, etc. at all. Mandarin is rough enough for me, thanks!
The closest I got to Guanzhou proper was Hong Kong, and that only to deal with visa issues before that avenue was closed. I've never lived anywhere with Yue as the dominant language. I lived briefly in a city (Xiamen) where Minnan was a huge influence, and lived for two years in a city (Jiujiang) where Gan was a major dialect, but most of my actual living here was done in Wuhan where a form of Mandarin (albeit a very loose form of it!) is the dominant dialect.
武汉话 is a 普通话 dialect, but at its most extreme is incomprehensible (right down to having a fifth tone!) to 普通话 speakers. It is, naturally, also one of those dialects for whom "四十四是四十四十四是十四" comes out as "sisi si si sisi si sisi si sisi".
I knew quite a few people who spent time in Foshan. They seemed to like it as a laid-back place like Shangrao in Jiangxi province for those I knew from there.
No, weirdly. I worked in tech firms, but I did marketing. Switching to teaching English in China was a huge step down in my salary. Now I'm back in marketing, as of 2016, working for a local company as their "cultural expert". (Officially on paper I'm a PA, but in reality I tend to lead all the stuff related to international things.)
I also want to leave this shithole, there’s nothing good here
I believe there are far more decent people here than evil. Hell, look at Trump's polling numbers: 63% disaprove.
This country has a serious problem with apathy, oppression, and corruption. It's broken, and it needs to be repaired by a new breed of American that can see a future where others do not.
I've been trying to help fix it for like 15+ years at this point, I just genuinely don't see a path forward. This country was broken long before Trump, and people just didn't seem to care. Now that it's starting to personally hurt them, I've seen more people start to turn up, but many of them have the attitude of "I can't wait for this to be over." I expect as soon as Trump is out and replaced with a Democrat ghoul, a lot of the attendance at the meetings I go to will drop again.
When Balkanization starts getting put on the table as a serious solution that would meaningfully make things better, you know a situation is incredibly fucked.
If you're educated or have a Department of Labor recognized skilled labor certificate (for example Union Apprenticeship) GTFO of the USA.
To anyone who truly feels this way, please consider coming to Australia.
We aren’t perfect, but we will damned sure treat you a lot better than the US has.
Chinese in Australia are reporting differently.
Hello, fellow woman who left the USA back in March o7
Fuck USA, the EU has been amazing so far! Lol
Small correction: I've never lived in the USA (though I came close to making that fatal mistake in 1999). I've lived in ... ah ... well ... many countries, but my citizenship is Canadian.
And yeah, Europe is a really nice place to live. I finished my secondary schooling in Europe and it was like going to school in Disneyland for me.
That is literally a bullet dodged and a half. Europe has been feeling like a whole new world, one that makes sense and we don’t feel in danger. That does make it a Disney land huh? Lol
For us we were born in the USA and it always felt like we were trapped. Born raised and lived in poverty. Being disabled didn’t help at all either. We worked for a while and we finally able to move with the help of our significant other. We’re still trying to get permanent residency but you will not see us in the USA any time soon.
I am highly educated, but I’m a single parent. That seems to pretty much tank my worth across the board.
Yeah it’s a pretty big dealbreaker for a lot of people. Even if kids are grown and independent. Fair enough.
Online surveys that ask women if they want to leave the United States often produce misleading results for several reasons.
First, these surveys capture wishful thinking rather than actual plans. When people answer an online poll, they respond based on imagination rather than commitment. Saying you want to move to another country is similar to saying you want to live on a beach or work fewer hours. It reflects a fantasy, not a genuine intention.
Second, these surveys attract people who are already dissatisfied or curious about change. This creates a self selected group that does not represent the population as a whole. If someone is bored, stressed, or daydreaming about a different lifestyle, they are more likely to click the poll.
Third, many respondents interpret the question emotionally rather than practically. Wanting to “leave the country” can actually mean wanting a break, wanting adventure, or wanting to travel. It rarely means navigating visas, finding new jobs, learning new languages, or building a life abroad. Travel and exploration are appealing because they offer novelty without long term consequences. True immigration requires commitment that most people never make.
Because of these factors, online polls mainly reveal a desire for change or travel rather than a real plan to emigrate. They reflect mood and curiosity, not a solid decision to leave the country.
Will the move to Paris, Venice, Lisboa or Amsterdam?
Ooh! Barcelona! Nice choice!
You might consider Portugal as well. Several really nice places there too.
Send me your thick fit ones.
Women wanting to travel is nothing new. These surveys aren't worth a good or bad poop.
This is talking about migration, not a damned vacation.
Same diff. Usa Women love to travel long time.
Why would you Damn a vacation?
Sticks and stones may break my bones but routhinator will always find something to be upset about.
Moving out a country to permanently live somewhere else is not "traveling" or a "vacation". How do you not get that?
Tell me you didn't read the article and/or understand it.
Women wanting to travel is nothing new.
Well done, Skippy!
This article comes out every other day. If you read you'd have seen it before.
And learn to skip, mrs poopy.
Gallup notes this is desire (aspiration), not necessarily a real plan — “not everyone who wants to move will move.” https://news.gallup.com/poll/697382/record-numbers-younger-women-leave.aspx
Can't imagine why. Not a single reason instantly comes to mind. Mystery of the universe.
I suspect record numbers of Americans would leave given the chance.
Its just an authoritarian shit hole at this point.
Rising interest in leaving the U.S. is shaped not only by age and gender but also by political attitudes. In 2025, there is a 25-point gap in the desire to migrate between Americans who approve and those who disapprove of the country’s leadership.
makes sense
Soon there'll be mail order bride ads like there were in the 90s/00s about women from east Europe, but instead it'll be women from USA.
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