▲ 423 ▼ Record Numbers of Younger Women Want to Leave the U.S. (news.gallup.com) submitted 1 year ago by ZDL@lazysoci.al to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca 92 comments fedilink hide all child comments But why?! The USA is a paradise for women! Isn't that what Margaret Atwood taught us!?
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 year ago (21 children) The real shocker is the number of people who don't. permalink fedilink source hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (15 children) Personally, I consider it a civic duty to help fix the country instead of abandoning it. If all the good people leave, things are gonna get way worse, and it's gonna start leaking all over the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago Unless you can alter laws about corporations, lobbying, and billionaires, the USA is going to be changed by good people staying there. The power of the people is now a facade, you'll get arrested for domestic terrorism charges or something permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children) I will agree with that statement 100% however, there's a caveat where if someone's personal safety and life are at risk by the state, there's absolutely no shame in fleeing. also the "stay and fix your country" is usually a racist dogwhistle. I am assuming you don't mean it like that. just bringing it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago I've been doing that since Clinton and all I see is people clamoring for "centrist" candidates who are now so far right, "center" is right of Nixon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) Is "stay and fix your country" a racist dog whistle? I wouldn't imagine racists would really consider leaving in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I believe he meant the racism was in saying that to people to be anti immigration. As in: we don't want people from mexico coming to america! Stay and fix your own country! If everyone was like that, wed have little ability to immigrate anywhere permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) it's used against immigrants or refugees. "they should stay there and fix their problems" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (4 children) True, true. It was "want" to leave though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I can see that, but if the want to stay eclipses the want to leave, arithmetically I consider that a net "want" to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago True, true... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you always run away from your battles? It's not about wanting to fight, or get hurt... It's about wanting a better country, and a better world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Me? No. I don't live in a shithole country. I really hope Americans can fix their shit so it stays that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago It's already affecting the planet in extreme ways. I'm with you, we have to stay as long as there's a chance we can help. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I agree and in the case of the us I think the onus is a bit higher considering our history. Folks were here before us and folks are here because of us and the least we can do is not be a shit show. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Im not a woman and im not young but I would love to be somewhere else. Honestly I sorta worry whats happening here is being mirrored elsewhere so in a few years it may not matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It'll get exported faster if we don't stay and face it. We already have the biggest military in the world, by an order of magnitude; we're not post-WWI Germany. If fascism takes hold here, the whole world is cooked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago yeah. I have peppered through my comment history how I would like to leave but its a quandry since sensible folk abandoning the country would lead to less sensible folks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Or would if the could afford it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago This is our home, not their home. Fuck the fascists. We aren't all cowards like the people in charge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (15 children) Personally, I consider it a civic duty to help fix the country instead of abandoning it. If all the good people leave, things are gonna get way worse, and it's gonna start leaking all over the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago Unless you can alter laws about corporations, lobbying, and billionaires, the USA is going to be changed by good people staying there. The power of the people is now a facade, you'll get arrested for domestic terrorism charges or something permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children) I will agree with that statement 100% however, there's a caveat where if someone's personal safety and life are at risk by the state, there's absolutely no shame in fleeing. also the "stay and fix your country" is usually a racist dogwhistle. I am assuming you don't mean it like that. just bringing it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago I've been doing that since Clinton and all I see is people clamoring for "centrist" candidates who are now so far right, "center" is right of Nixon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) Is "stay and fix your country" a racist dog whistle? I wouldn't imagine racists would really consider leaving in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I believe he meant the racism was in saying that to people to be anti immigration. As in: we don't want people from mexico coming to america! Stay and fix your own country! If everyone was like that, wed have little ability to immigrate anywhere permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) it's used against immigrants or refugees. "they should stay there and fix their problems" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (4 children) True, true. It was "want" to leave though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I can see that, but if the want to stay eclipses the want to leave, arithmetically I consider that a net "want" to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago True, true... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you always run away from your battles? It's not about wanting to fight, or get hurt... It's about wanting a better country, and a better world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Me? No. I don't live in a shithole country. I really hope Americans can fix their shit so it stays that way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago It's already affecting the planet in extreme ways. I'm with you, we have to stay as long as there's a chance we can help. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I agree and in the case of the us I think the onus is a bit higher considering our history. Folks were here before us and folks are here because of us and the least we can do is not be a shit show. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago Unless you can alter laws about corporations, lobbying, and billionaires, the USA is going to be changed by good people staying there. The power of the people is now a facade, you'll get arrested for domestic terrorism charges or something permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children) I will agree with that statement 100% however, there's a caveat where if someone's personal safety and life are at risk by the state, there's absolutely no shame in fleeing. also the "stay and fix your country" is usually a racist dogwhistle. I am assuming you don't mean it like that. just bringing it up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago I've been doing that since Clinton and all I see is people clamoring for "centrist" candidates who are now so far right, "center" is right of Nixon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) Is "stay and fix your country" a racist dog whistle? I wouldn't imagine racists would really consider leaving in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I believe he meant the racism was in saying that to people to be anti immigration. As in: we don't want people from mexico coming to america! Stay and fix your own country! If everyone was like that, wed have little ability to immigrate anywhere permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) it's used against immigrants or refugees. "they should stay there and fix their problems" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 year ago I've been doing that since Clinton and all I see is people clamoring for "centrist" candidates who are now so far right, "center" is right of Nixon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children) Is "stay and fix your country" a racist dog whistle? I wouldn't imagine racists would really consider leaving in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I believe he meant the racism was in saying that to people to be anti immigration. As in: we don't want people from mexico coming to america! Stay and fix your own country! If everyone was like that, wed have little ability to immigrate anywhere permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) it's used against immigrants or refugees. "they should stay there and fix their problems" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago I believe he meant the racism was in saying that to people to be anti immigration. As in: we don't want people from mexico coming to america! Stay and fix your own country! If everyone was like that, wed have little ability to immigrate anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) it's used against immigrants or refugees. "they should stay there and fix their problems" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ah. Well, considering I'm referring to my own strategy, I think I'm safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago yhea, I assumed so. didn't mean to accuse you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (4 children) True, true. It was "want" to leave though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I can see that, but if the want to stay eclipses the want to leave, arithmetically I consider that a net "want" to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago True, true... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you always run away from your battles? It's not about wanting to fight, or get hurt... It's about wanting a better country, and a better world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Me? No. I don't live in a shithole country. I really hope Americans can fix their shit so it stays that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I can see that, but if the want to stay eclipses the want to leave, arithmetically I consider that a net "want" to stay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago True, true... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you always run away from your battles? It's not about wanting to fight, or get hurt... It's about wanting a better country, and a better world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Me? No. I don't live in a shithole country. I really hope Americans can fix their shit so it stays that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Me? No. I don't live in a shithole country. I really hope Americans can fix their shit so it stays that way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago It's already affecting the planet in extreme ways. I'm with you, we have to stay as long as there's a chance we can help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago I agree and in the case of the us I think the onus is a bit higher considering our history. Folks were here before us and folks are here because of us and the least we can do is not be a shit show. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Im not a woman and im not young but I would love to be somewhere else. Honestly I sorta worry whats happening here is being mirrored elsewhere so in a few years it may not matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It'll get exported faster if we don't stay and face it. We already have the biggest military in the world, by an order of magnitude; we're not post-WWI Germany. If fascism takes hold here, the whole world is cooked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago yeah. I have peppered through my comment history how I would like to leave but its a quandry since sensible folk abandoning the country would lead to less sensible folks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) It'll get exported faster if we don't stay and face it. We already have the biggest military in the world, by an order of magnitude; we're not post-WWI Germany. If fascism takes hold here, the whole world is cooked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago yeah. I have peppered through my comment history how I would like to leave but its a quandry since sensible folk abandoning the country would lead to less sensible folks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago yeah. I have peppered through my comment history how I would like to leave but its a quandry since sensible folk abandoning the country would lead to less sensible folks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago Or would if the could afford it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago This is our home, not their home. Fuck the fascists. We aren't all cowards like the people in charge. permalink fedilink source parent