Basically the title, you need to use the skills you have now and be a productive member of society.

I don't mean go back and show the wheel or try invent germ theory etc.

For example I'm a mechanic i think I could go back to the late 1800s and still fix and repair engines and steam engines.

Maybe even take that knowledge further back and work on the first industrial machines in the late 1700s but that's about it.

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[–] 110 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I'm not even sure I can survive with my skills now.

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Baking bread goes back pretty far. Think I'd rather just jump of a cliff, though.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    In a modern oven, sure. I make great bread from flour, water, salt. But without the ovens I understand? Without the fine ground flour? I dunno.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I promise you the lack of modern oven wouldn't be the worst part. Making do with a wood-fire oven would be fine. It's the proofing process that would be a pain in the ass. When raising bread, time, temperature, and humidity are all pretty much ingredients, and things can get finnicky. A proofer helps immensely with keeping bulk batches of bread a consistent quality day after day. The cooking bit is the easy part. But imagine just having a change of weather fuck with things and then you have to adjust the environment as best you can so the bread'll rise right, and keep it stable for hours.

    I baked as a living for 5 years, and I'm in the midwest USA, so I dealt with all 4 seasons varying. And on top of that a lot of the shop was glass windows, so you can bet the weather messed with things. Even with the proofer. So without, man, it's annoying just to think about. Would probably have to seal a room up aside from a chimney, keep a fire going, and take a boiling pot of water off and on the fire to keep the air the right humidity.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I don't use a proofing oven, or rely on consistent temperature, even now but it does mean I'm sitting here at midnight baking the rye so it can cool overnight because it wasn't ready to bake earlier so yeah even here in the subtropics I notice the difference in the winter, bread is slower to rise.

    I had friends who moved to the bush and built a clay oven and they said all they could successfully bake was popovers because the oven started hot then cooled off, there was no way to keep it constant.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    and be a productive member of society

    I just write useless software for a useless company. I'm not a productive member of society today, I wouldn't be one at any point in the past. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You're a Microsoft Excel developer?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Obviously not.

    There are no microsoft developers these days.

    Only copilot spewing slop.

    That's why every single update breaks some fundamental feature that had been working for ages.

    And no one can fix it, because they fired everyone who knew anything about how their software works.

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  • [+] 24 points 11 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] [S] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Be a shame you can't make medicines though

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Just washing one's hands before touching the patient would make a massive difference, alcohol is pretty abundant, willow bark tea for the pain (and contact your local herbalist for other remedies), you could infect people with cowpox to vaccinate them against smallpox, you might even be able to grow some penicillin if you manage to make some rudimentary Petri dishes out of broth or beer wort and happen to have the right spores floating around...

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Penicillin isn't just growing some mold, it was selected for out of literally tens of thousands of strains of mold that were sent in from around the globe to find one that wouldn't kill the patient. You would, at a minimum, need: microscope optics, glassblowing equipment to perform extractions and purifications, a source of solvents (ether will only go so far), assaying equipment (even old school stuff needs indicators), and enough industrial progress to make and machine steel to be able to scale any of it up.

    Just finding the correct strain of mold to begin to produce any form of antibiotics would need a pretty insane amount of hardware to make what we would consider a rudimentary lab in modern times, let alone isolating it in a way that's safe for human consumption.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Before the twentieth century killing the patient wasn't a big deal, it was kind of expected. Robert Liston, the best (or at least fastest, which for surviving patients was what mattered) surgeon of the nineteenth century, once had a 300% death rate in one of his surgeries (he killed the patient, an assistant, and a spectator) and all the reaction he got was “well, it was a good attempt, try to do better next time”.

    Just keep trying until you find a strain that kills less patients than the previous one. They would probably have died from gangrene anyway, so it's not like you're killing them, really, just changing the cause of death. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    No medicine, no hospitals, no diagnostic or treatment tools? No trauma care. How much can you really do?

    As a non-medical person, I can’t do much more than sterilize a wound and apply a bandage. All respect to you but that far back would you be able to do any more?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Being able to set a bone, sterilize a wound, and stitch it closed would make a huge difference for a lot of people. High proof alcohol and cauterization, and fine enough needles are the hardest parts on that list.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I can pick things up and put them down, so as long as there’s things that need picked up and put down I’m good.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I hear Sisyphus is looking to train his replacement. In fact, he says it's a pretty cushy job, as there's no need to pick things up, and definitely no putting them down

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    As a waitress, probably the 1980's.

    As a computer scientist / CS teacher, probably the 1960's... without being outed as a time traveler, anyway.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

    computer scientist / CS teacher, probably the 1960's

    I'm not sure how well of a living they've made back then, but surely mathematicians / math teachers were a thing since ancient times.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Someone who knows a bunch of complexity theory, graph theory, and sorting algorithms for large data sets; but not calculus or set theory is gonna be conspicuously unusual the further back you go.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    but not calculus or set theory

    My computer science curriculum covered calculus - perhaps not as rigorously as the mathematical sciences, but enough for it to be "working" knowledge (personally, I've forgotten 90% of it since graduation).

    Plus, I am sure a computer science teacher should be at least familiar with these topics, or be capable of picking them up.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I'm familiar, I could pick them them up (I have before, and like you, forgotten them from disuse), but I certainly don't know them offhand the way I know, say, Dijkstra's algorithm.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    My skills travel pretty far. But with my gender id not be allowed to use them.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I imagine I'd make a not totally incompetent blacksmith, or some other equivalent allied trade. In fact, I'd probably have a better chance at that 300 or so years ago than now.

    Yes, I do already have my own anvil. Jury's out on whether or not I feel like lugging it with me, though. The fucker is heavy.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    For all of human history, labor has always been a productive skill.

    I can do labor in any era.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    i could paint some kick ass cave paintings and field dress a deer.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    I could be an excellent prostitute, so checkmate motherfuckers.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I can go pretty damn far back. (username)

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Without all the moddcoms of life? No more electric oven gas stove etc?

    When did the cook stop doing the butchering of the animal?

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    If there's one thing I know about chefs is that they're still able to make a banger of a dish while out of half the ingredients, the oven is broken so they're using a blowtorch, and Joey the kitchen bitch needs saved from getting eaten by the industrial mixer. I'm sure they'll figure out using a wood stove while taking out their anger towards front of house by butchering a pig

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Great question.

    In culinary school there is an entire module on butchering - mammals, birds, fish, etc. I’ve always said my ability to cleanly and safely butcher all the things would make me very valuable in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

    Creating and maintaining a fire isn’t easy but it also isn’t hard. Unrelated to culinary school, I’ve learned the skill to create charcoal from solid wood in a primitive low-oxygen furnace - that would be useful.

    Even without metallurgy, I could probably cook on slates and stones, or create pottery solid enough to boil water. If I’m around during or after the Iron Age, I’ve got all the cast iron I could want.

    Ingredients would probably be limited. My knowledge of food chemistry would definitely help. Without refrigeration I’d have to rely heavily on pickling and salting. If I could learn glassblowing, we could move on to canning as a preservative.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    My computer skills? Not far. My house painting skills? I guess maybe 200 years, but I’m not excited about the prospect of using lead-based paint and wood ladders. As a jazz-trained musician, I guess to the 1940s.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Depends on the skillset in question.

    On one hand I work with IT/Clusters and robotics for the geophysical exploration sector. 20 years, probably. Beyond that and it gets dubious apart from this one system that actually runs on MS-DOS to this day (because MS-DOS is surprisingly good at realtime stuff if you want it to do something very simple).

    On the other hand I do a lot of digital I/O and automation which would probably be very useful in the 60s, maybe even before if I manage to join the pioneers.

    On top of that, I grew up on a dairy farm, and learned a lot of that trade from my dad. I can milk a cow by hand, so if that was all I needed to do, I could go back all the way to Mesopotamia.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    If you placed me at the beginning of the industrial revolution I could from available materials build a working telegraph and telephone system and do pretty well for myself.

    Prior to that I could be a pretty good peasant.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    If the people at the time allowed you and gave you the means to, I think most people could definitively revolutionize one or two fields, and accelerate multiple more

    Even just knowing what is possible in the future should not be underestimated. I could point people towards the right track in physics, chemistry, astronomy, material science, biology, medicine, electronics, and so on. But especially in computer science and communications/networking, as those are the fields I know the most of. I could probably be a major founder of the field and (re)discover a lot of parts of it

    A lot of science is essentially stumbling around in the dark. Yes, we're doing it methodically and sometimes we get some pointers towards the right track, but we can't know what we don't know. If we knew exactly what it is that we should/could know but don't, that is a massive benefit. Like for example, at some point in time people didn't know if antibiotics or vaccines were possible, but if you told them "yeah, I don't know the specifics, but I absolutely know 100% for sure that it's possible" you can be sure it would spur a massive investigation into it, and you could give pointers from the bits and pieces you knew

    Of course, as mentioned, the big issue is them trusting you and actually believing you have some sort of knowledge they don't have. If you don't play your cards right you'll probably just get killed for being a charlatan lol. But if you manage to get some early wins and score yourself a dedicated workshop/lab and a team, you could do soon much

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    I don't even got skills for today

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    I'm a structural engineer. I might not have all the materials needed, but I could probably still design old masonry structures if needed.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If I had access to good quality copper, I could invent electricity and do very well for myself.

    So long as I can avoid Ur in the 18th century BC, I could go back pretty far.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    As a software engineer, I’d struggle with the limitations of ten years ago.

    But on the non-work side, I have no problems with maintenance on my house and hand tools haven’t changed much, so at least 80 years

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's interesting - I wasn't aware of how fundamentally we've moved on in the last 10 years. Presumably you went to uni, so that's 4 years, so you'll have the theory I guess? I did my Degree in 'computing' in 2003. Did some Java and Web design using Dreamweaver and a whole module on Lotus Notes. Yeah, not super useful!

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Looking back ten years I used a different set of tools for a different set of programming languages for different purposes. This has been a general pattern as the industry has evolved over my career.

    Yes I have a good depth and breadth of knowledge that would help me pick things up but I’m not sure relearning the technology would be different from learning a new one, and all the frustrations of old tech would be there.

    As an example, I’d have to relearn the ins and outs of virtual machines and would be damn frustrated to lose the benefits of containers. All that fiddling around with networks, and being tied to specific component brands to get scalable performance. Having to relearn something like puppet or ansible or chef to build out the machines instead of a straightforward dockerfile. And the frustration of how slow it all is and not being able to run anywhere

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I am a carpenter so I could probably go back and get drinks after work with Lu Ban in 5th century BC China.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    I'm pretty good at hunting and gathering. Back before my broken neck and back, I was super into wanting to buy some remote place in the Appalachians and pseudo homestead. I have messed with many of the required skills. I wanted a place in the mountains with a year round creek for a water wheel, building a foundry and forge, along with a manual machine shop. I was into what I could do using junk from pick-a-part type junk yards. People often only think of parts for whatever low end car, but if you actually have a fundamental understanding of cars and the various technologies in different applications, a junk yard gives tremendous access to industrial technology for many types of machines and equipment. Junk yards are not setup for that kind of thing either. A little bit of flattery and flirting with a cashier goes a very long way when none of the collection of parts on your cart have legitimate prices on the menu.

    Even with my disability now, I could probably survive in the wild by trapping game and some minor gardening if the population was low enough and I was in a decent location compared to where/when I live now in the era of the 50 year mortgage fuckwit dystopia.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I could potentially survive on fishing. Not for fish, I tried that once and sucked. But crabs are stupid. A few times gone for fun and can easily get a few in not very long. If I was having to survive I would probably make bigger/more nets or traps too.

    I wonder about spear fishing, have seen a few pretty large fish in shallow water before around here depending on the tide, some were certainly possible to hit, even if you don't hit every time that is a lot of food.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    It is easier to spear fish underwater. You do not have the refractive index of light to deal with.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    That is with modern equipment though

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    You did not understand the abstraction. I covered all of human history from hunter gatherer to modern.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Are there hunter gatherer methods of launching a spear effectively while underwater? Plus wouldn't it be much harder to see the fish.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Scuba or snorkeling – diving leads to spear fishing.It helps to have modern elastics to make a riffle like spear gun. When under water, big fish are easy game. You'll see them easily in the ocean and reasonably well in large rivers and lakes too. With rivers and lakes you can just noodle with large catfish. If you reach into holes and cervices, catfish will bite your hand. It is more like sucking. You just pull them up, no tackle or equipment needed.

    Without modern elastics, any bow or torsion based energy storage system would work to make a crossbow like action. I could easily flake a rock to make a crude knife, and fashion something out of some sticks.

    I would probably struggle most with my chemistry using organics I find in nature. I know stuff like the best bows are recurved with composite wood. Ultimately, I am loosely aware of the innovations of Watts with the pressure regulation of a steam engine. I know how to make bloom iron. And I know the basics of indirect heating and atmospheric control of the Bessemer process. Additionally, I am aware that the key to lathe precision is a heavy base, and that a lathe screw lead is able to cut a more accurate lathe screw lead, and eventually achieve any machine precision desired. Prussian blue or any dye based pigment, is used with a special thick chisel to hand scrape metal flat. Magnetite is the primary ore for iron. Steel is all about precision control over the carbon content. Heating calcium carbonate is super handy. Boxite requires chemistry to get to the aluminum. High voltage arcs across electrodes in air will make nitric acid, but guano is the most accessible form of nitrates at smaller scales. Potatoes are the most important food source to scavenge.

    A general deep curiosity and willingness to explore are the key personality traits. I love learning at a fundamental level where I actually understand stuff. I am not all that bright, just a jack of all trades type person where I have a very broad set of skills and understanding of the world. I'm a swiss army knife – all the tools, but the world's shittiest scissors.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I am very good with hair braiding so could probably get work in a rich lady's house I guess. Good with numbers (I work as an accountant) but the past seems so relentlessly sexist not going to try.

    ETA: having considered this, maybe the number and letter literacy literacy would be useful in the same position, (though obviously my reading would be limited with the earlier language, I'm sure that would not draw any attention) I think I'd still angle for work as a lady's lady.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    I've been doing computer engineering long enough to do the field in the 80s and still live as comfortably as I do now, if not more so.

    I also sail, with a license old enough that I have my own sextant and reduction tables. I'd assume those skills transfer hundreds of years back, but I wouldn't like those survivability odds.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    There is always a need for dumb labor. I may not be good at it.... yet...

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Just don't get involved with any pyramid schemes.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Look, I have a job opportunity, room and board provided nearish to a large river yes it's I will Egypt but...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Bring in 5 guys and you can be their boss, then those guys each need to bring in 5 more guys, they can be bosses of those guys, you get to be the big boss...wait wait wait, the king is just gonna go grab some outlanders, maybe a cow or two.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    As a support engineer for a proprietary SaaS product I would probably be quite limited. But as I also run a LAMP VM and I think that was way more popular as a skill set requirement a little over a decade ago so that could help. Might even get higher pay...

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    At least as far back as keyboard instruments have been around I could be a musician. Ending up further in time, I'd be a composer; the guy that revolutionised polyphony.

    'Palestrina, that's really nice. Now check this out'

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    Yeah it's tough, I can explain electricity but sure don't have the ability to make it. That's why I figure steam engines and stuff someone else made i can repair and innovate on.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Creating electricity is surprisingly easy. Copper and Zinc were widely available for centuries before electricity and the only other item you need is an acid. Nitric acid was being made back in the 13th century. Arrange a copper bar and a zinc bar separated from one another with an insulator (glass, ceramic, or even wood) in a glass or ceramic jar. Pour in the acid submerging most of the bars with some expose above the acid. You now have a battery with the anode and cathode (positive and negative terminals) being the top of the bars.

    Barely slightly more sophisticated batteries than this powered telegraph offices for powering Morse code sending keys.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I put all my skill points in computers so I could go back to the 70's maybe. The computers made before the ibm pc still seem close enough to be usable by me.

    I could also go to neolithic era as rock-on-stick-skull-crusher

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Hmm. Before the end of the 19th century you're going to run into non-standardised/completely bespoke parts problems. How are you on a lathe, or doing blacksmith work? Hot riveting was a separate trade which you wouldn't have to do, at least.

    I'm kinda obsessed with what I call technological bootstrapping, and so I have useful book knowledge about every step along the way. Doing it in practice is another thing, though; the locals are going to run circles around me unless I can invent stuff. (And even the scenario rules aside, not starving or being "disturbed" while I work on whatever project is a thing)

    So, I think I have to echo the "it's not going great in 2025" answer.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Lathe work I'm pretty good at, all be it a modern lathe.

    Blacksmithing i have some experience given my involvement in HEMA but it certainly wouldn't get me far

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Well then you'd probably be fine all the way back to premodern times, assuming you can convince clients to trust you with their mine water pump or whatever. As long as you could get along without devoted replacement parts.

    Once you reach that point, the modern lathe thing becomes an issue, a commercial foundry might not be around for cast parts, and the technology to cast ferrous metals at all isn't guarenteed. The ability to perfectly eyeball things and use relatively primitive materials becomes a major constraint. If you master that, you can probably hack it all the way back to early civilisation building crossbows or animal-powered pumps.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I think my knowledge of first aid and basic anatomy would be of some use in any pre-modern time period. I know enough to make a positive difference at least (wash that cut, dont drink water from downstream of your encampment, give the sick plenty of fluids, etc)

    Beyond that, i'd be behind everyone else. I can fish, forage, garden, cook, start fires, and build shelter, but so could everyone for most of human history. I could probaby keep up with a hunter-gatherer society, but i'd be the least capable among them.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I'm a musician, so my skills have always been in demand, although the wages have always been in dispute for as long as there has been music. People love music, they just don't like to pay for it.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    I can learn new things, so any time in human history.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Gonna blow Galileo's mind with an equatorial telescope mount. Even more so when I attach a clock to it and make it automatically track the sky. I'm skilled enough to construct one, assuming I can communicate with other laborers to have the parts made

    As far as general labor skills go though, I could make a living just about any time with agriculture. Unskilled labor is timeless

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Per the OP's post:

    I don't mean go back and show the wheel or try invent germ theory etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    This is true, but I don't like deleting comments because everyone can see that I left one and deleted it, and I get self-conscious about that

    So instead of deleting the comment I just added on some bullshit about unskilled labor

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'll go way back and wow people with mayonnaise.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Windows 98 SE

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