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[–] 203 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A better source.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/09/trump-administration-tells-states-to-undo-full-snap-benefits-00643887

USDA’s latest memo, sent Saturday to state directors of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, instructed states to deliver just 65 percent of benefits during the government shutdown and required those who already sent full payments to claw back that money.

There really is no bottom to this administrations evil.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It confirms my theory that they are desperately trying to implement the mass killing of people.

    The political violence they wanted isn't happening. The dropping vaccine rates isn't fast enough. And now people aren't starving as they should be.

    That indicates to me that they are finding out just how hard it is to kill 268,000,000 people. It might have something to do with the fact that 268,000,000 are more than enough to keep themselves alive.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s a plausible theory. They want to create a system that inevitably leads to revolution, so they need to weaken those that might revolt as much as possible. They are also stubbornly sticking to the old rightist tactic of inflicting pain and suffering while trying to blame that pain and suffering on their opponents. That tactic is starting to fail, which means they have to fall back to weakening those who will rise up. They are openly admitting that they know their criminal coup has been noticed and won’t be forgotten.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not even just that. I can't find a source right now, but I remember reading about how the "dark enlightenment" lunatics have worked out their "ideal" US population for their technofeudalist dystopia, and it's vastly lower than what the population is currently. I believe that's what the commenter was referencing with the "kill 268,000,000" figure: 343 mil - 268 mil = 75 mil, which I think might've been what the thing I read said.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago*

    That sounds like a great way to end up being in Russia's shoes with failing to win a war they started. The feudalist part of that technofedualist dystopia is undoubtedly going to have imperialistic ambitions, and—somehow—I don't think Musk's Optimus robots are going to be able to compensate for the fact that they'll have less than half of the combined population of Mexico and Canada.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The only saving grace is that most of the people who I know that are on SNAP fucking love Trump and will probably keep loving him even after this. Maybe it's where I live but it's getting harder and harder to feel bad for these people getting hurt by Trump's policies because most of them still fucking love him.

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  • [+] 124 points 1 year ago (21 children)
  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    It's even worse than that. It's quite literally taking food BACK out of their mouths.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You gotta realize even the dictionary has given up on this one...

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

    Because the dictionary covers the practical usage, and the misuse is as common as the actual use. The dictionary definition for litterally includes the formal "in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression" and the informal that means the exact opposite "statement or description that is not literally true or possible"

    I find it kind of ironic to say it's actual definition for literally includes effectively or it could also mean "not literally"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Merriam Webster hasn't been the academic standard for decades. The Oxford one did not capitulate to trends.

    Edit to add: https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=Literally

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

    "quite literally" would mean there are federal officers or agents in people's homes scraping chewed food out of children's mouths.

    I think you mean "virtually taking food BACK out of their mouths."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Anyone who tries to start that “literally also means figuratively” shit here is going to get shivved. By me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    But, like, it does. Because language evolves, and history shows most who choose the Old Ways of Language as the hill to die on don't win out.

    So many of the word shifts that have conglomerated into new dialects, and eventually new languages, come from people who don't feel like saying a whole word anymore, who combine 2+ words together, who lose the need for a word's specific meaning and let it become something more general, etc.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    NO. IT DOES NOT. WORDS DO NOT EVOLVE TO MEAN THEIR OPPOSITE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE SPECIFIC TO WORDS THEMSELVES. INSANE CHAOS SUPPORTERS GTFO.

    SIX IS NOT GOING TO MEAN NINE, EVER. (well okay maybe once for fun, or like in a substitution cipher or something.) “RUN” SHOULD NEVER MEAN “STAND STILL”. STEP AWAY FROM THE BONG.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Quora user Ben Waggoner had this to say about words evolving to mean their opposites:

    Well, the classic example is “awful”, which used to mean, literally, “awe-full”, i.e. full of awe, awe-inspiring. It now generally means “really bad.”

    In my long-passed Methodist childhood, the hymnal included a hymn that we never seemed to sing, called “Before Jehovah’s Awful Throne”. I remember wondering as a lad why God would put up with a bad throne. . .

    There’s an often-repeated story that when Christopher Wren completed building St. Paul’s Cathedral in London, King Charles II exclaimed that the building was “awful”, “artificial”, and “amusing.” Supposedly, this was actually meant as a compliment: “awful” meant awe-inspiring, “artificial” meant made with great art and skill, and “amusing” meant amazing. Hey, what do you know—words can change their meanings!

    The truth is not quite that good a story. There is a documented royal warrant from Charles II that praises the plan of St. Paul’s as “very artificial, proper, and useful; as because it was so ordered that it might be built and finish’d by Parts”—so it’s true that St. Paul’s was called “artificial” in the sense of “designed with great art”, which I guess is another example of a word that has taken a very different meaning, if perhaps not the exact opposite of its original meaning. But the bits about “awful” and “amusing” seem to have accreted to the story much later. (And “amusing” originally meant “deceiving; deluding”; I don’t think it meant “amazing” at all, although I’ll check that.) Check out St Paul’s Cathedral Is Amusing, Awful, and Artificial for documentation.


    Responding to the same question, Quora user Jennifer Bransfield offered:

    What are examples of words which, archaichly, had the exact opposite meaning?

    You can thank our West Coast surfers for some of these switcheroos:

    Sick - used to mean ill, bad or unhealthy. Now it means something very good.

    Dude - used to mean a man who works on a ranch. Now it is used as a gender-nonspecific pronoun. Yes, even women can be dudes.

    Awesome - used to mean extremely worthy of awe. Now it can be used for ordinary things. It can also be used sarcastically to describe something that is not good. For example, “I think this toast is awesome because it has just the right amount of butter.” Or, “Awesome. I just lost my job.”

    Tubular - used to mean shaped like a tube.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    Yes, well, Quora notwithstanding ffs.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What an awful* response.

    *Assume whichever meaning you prefer to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Well it’s literally the 17th century.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I didn't mean that literally.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Right, I know; you meant it literally!

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  • Republicans when handing out business loans like candy during COVID:

    It’s just too difficult to get all that money back. Just forgive all the loans.

    Republicans when children are fed with government benefits

    GET THAT FUCKING MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    As someone from poor rural Midwest, I can tell you from first hand experience, that people have usually ran out of food stamps about 3 weeks into the month.
    Meaning, most people on snap are waiting for the first to get groceries because they don't have anything.

    And now we are going on week 2 of the month.

    So for many. It's now getting close to 3 weeks without food money.

    And with the rising food costs, I wouldn't be surprised if people are running out of snap money closer to the midpoint of the month.

    So for them. It's been 4 weeks

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  • [+] 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So what? You think people should just simmer down then?

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  • [+] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't see what else could possibly be implied by people pointing this out over and over.

    "Don't rock the boat because you're giving him what he wants."

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's a big difference between pointing out their strategy and telling people not to react, and all I read here is the pointing out.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Dude that's a horrible thing to imply, these people are starving. Why don't you try not eating for 4 weeks and see how you like it.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    From the admin whose favorite way of passing the time is ignoring court orders.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Ah yes, the Trump starvation agenda.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    so what is the purpose of this? Besides the obvious "evilness". Is it to better control the masses? Or retaliation for protesting? For force people to get a second or third job to say he is creating jobs? What is the logic behind this?

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago

    It's a tactic to get the Dems, who actually give a shit about starving children, to fold and allow the Republicans to take away our already shit healthcare and to protect pedophiles and child traffickers.

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  • [+] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hungry people can't think. Hungry people can't fight. Hungry people eventually stop being a barrier to power.

    Same with the sick.

    They really don't have an end goal beyond that. They want to take what they please, and enjoy killing some people in the process.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Would be a shame if the starving masses and the farmers with produce rotting in their fields got together and realised that this administration is the cause of all their problems...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Would be nice, sure. Unfortunately, the Republican propaganda machine has spent the last 3-decades brainwashing those farmers into believing that cities are Detroit-in-Robocop-level crime scenes that are beyond repair, and anyone with pink hair is gonna turn them gay, to believe anything but what the propaganda machine says is the root cause of their problems.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They are holding the most vulnerable Americans hostage in the hopes that it will convince the democrats to allow them to be hurt in a different way, by agreeing to the proposed budget.

    But most importantly, they are also trying to extend the duration of the shutdown, while making it seem like they aren't the ones doing it. So the deal they are offering has to stay something that the democrats would never agree to....

    So they also benefit from anything other than that being what is in the news, but they have lots of practice making sure the news is talking about stupid stuff instead of important stuff.

    As long as the government is shut down, the vote to release the Epstein documents can't happen. Currently if it happened, it would pass. That will be devastating not to just trump, but a large percentage of rich republicans, in and out of government. (As well as a small percentage of rich democrats) so they are just waiting until the situation changes enough that they think a vote would go their way.

    And while that does seem both comically evil and too simple to possibly be what it is all about.... or wait... does it still seem too evil and simple to be the real plan?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ooo hadn’t thought of the job creation angle. Though I assume those are part time jobs. Do they count those when computing employment numbers?

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    He should come take mine back personally so I can ruin his day.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Fucker can ignore a court order, twice, states can ignore whatever he says.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's like he wants us to physically overthrow him

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Please stop linking to CBS News.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Im sure the state's right ppl are real upset over this.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, good luck with that. People were sent their full SNAP in my state because a judge ordered those benefits to be paid. I get a case for stopping further States' distributions given the more recent judgement, but the idea that they'll be able to claw back money from the States that have already distributed the full amount seems insane. People got sent what they were entitled to, in the amount they were entitled to, after a judge's order saying to do that and before another judge's order saying not to do that. So I just don't conceive of an argument that a court would accept that would retroactively claw that money back from people.

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    Never happen. Politicians have a direct interest in keeping the violent gang members cultivated to protect their interests out of jail. If the enforcers go to jail, how long do you think it'll take the capos to join them?

    See, we never actually "punished" the nazis. We gave them jobs and government positions. We gave them benefits and Healthcare and pensions. We couldn't possibly get rid of nazis without getting rid of our neighbors and politicians, so we never did.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Bread and Games: it's how one keeps the populous under control. Everyone knows that, right?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Giving away free bread and entertaining everyone is the theory there.

    Taking bread away from people and being insufferable pricks about it is a new twist, i guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why would the Democrats do this?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's because they're dirty liberals! And the nice thing about using "liberal" as an insult is that you can claim to be on either end of the political spectrum when you do it, depending on what's convenient at the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really? This is the hill ya wanna die on?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The dems should follow up and request blocking the funds Trump is not freezing.

    If there is no money for Snap there is no money for Venezuela

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  • I WANT PEOPLE TO STARVE DAMMIT

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    "We want to prevent people in need from their basic human need of feeding themselves."

    - Conservatives

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