Add that any products grown for trade are sitting unwanted in fields, or for aid rotting in warehouses because the government canceled the contracts for them. Food is often held in special warehouses where the oxygen is pumped out, but there aren't enough of those to hold all the excess that was expected to be sent elsewhere

It's a colossal mess, with an incredible amount of waste

One more: China puts tariffs on agricultural products specifically, because they know what they're doing.

This is just a gift for big farm.

No no no, they'll vote for the GOP again, but hope they'll force inmates or homeless people to work the fields.

Its truly incredible.

Their response will just be to fold, to literally sell the farm, and also at the same time never even be cognizant of the fact that they got exactly what they voted for, that Trump repeatedly said he was going to do exactly this, that lefties screamed about Project 2025 and the resounding response was basically 'pff, he's just bluffing,' and then making up a fan fiction version of what Dear Leader will actually do.

They're just gonna revert back to the 'no one wants to work' mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.

These idiots didn't even realize how dependant they were on so many massive subsidy programs untill they poofed out of existence, again, 100% in line with Trump's platform.

Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?

Literally the world's sole super power 20/30 years ago, and in a single generation we have destroyed ourselves in almost every way possible, short of just nuking ourselves.

Literally everything in America is about how much money you have, but God forbid you ask an employer how much they're going to pay you. Because at your job what really matters is FAMILY. It's like, give me a fucking break.

Any pretty much any physical job comes with copious risks to your body and health, yet these types of employers typically don't pay for employee health plans nor do they pay enough for employees to comfortably afford their own. Why would anybody want to risk severing a finger, breaking a leg, getting bitten by a dangerous snake, a nail to the hand, etc if they don't have to, especially knowing they can't afford the treatment and it could lead to lifelong pain and disability?

You think they're making minimum wage?

Jesus fucking Christ that's dark but entirely possible.

will?

it already happened.

he said he'll exempt some industries from ice raids. those who work well be even more desperate, and the bosses will be able to call ICE to kidnap whichever worker isn't performing as desired. under those conditions it might as well be slavery without the actual ownership.

I mean, it's not so much the fear of deportation so much as the fact that lower wages go farther in Mexico. Most Mexicans who illegally immigrate do so simply because it makes economic sense. If the wages were so low that it didn't make economic sense to them, then they would simply return to Mexico voluntarily.

work for a fraction of minimum wage paid under the table.

The real irony here is that a lot of immigrant workers were here on legitimate visas, in fact a huge portion of the "illegal" immigrants who the Trump administration has deported were here on legit visas that he wantonly revoked, and were therefore paying taxes on the shite wages they were being paid. Taxes that the U.S. is now no longer collecting. Anyone wanna take bets on the deficit increase under Trump?

That is already happening at scale

That's definitely the plan, and they'll be using private, for-profit prison companies. One is a facility in Louisiana that has been closed twice due to abuse and torture of inmates, and has been reopened as an ICE facility they've been stashing the students arrested for pro-Palestinian protests there. The Columbia student who just got released was being held there.

They are also building a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo Bay. The $250 million dollar contract has been awarded, and it's underway. For context, the average maximum security prison hold 800-1200 people, with the largest in Angola, LA holding about 8400. So this new facility is nearly 4 times larger than the largest prison, which is already several times larger than average. Clearly, they intend to house MANY people there.

It's my belief that they will eventually take the position that if you can't stay actively employed (due to AI, robotics, automation, discrimination, etc.) and require the help of the government to survive, then they will house and feed you in exchange for renting you out as slave labor. That way, they can say they solved the homeless problems, even though all they did was turn them into slaves.

And the MAGA followers will go along with it, happy that the "parasites" are being forced to work. Besides, they've been hoping for slavery to return since 1865. The only legal slavery in America is prison labor, and like MAGA always does, they intend to exploit the shit out of that Amendment.

Just wait until we get those pesky child labor laws rolled back, then there’s a fresh new crop of serfs for the fields

Yes but that's freedom.

You'll still have trouble finding people. Picking crops fucking sucks.

I've done a lot of seasonal field scale farm work, mostly in Europe - it can be extremely hard work. Couldn't do it now, you have to be pretty fit.

Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour.

Good luck with hthat.

If only people would be willing to pay for that at the market...

day for a shit wage.

Underpaying Immigrants and Outsourcing both tech and design to China has rightfully fucked us. Smarter every day tried to make an OK grill brush here, it has to be $75.

I don't like either of the answers the administration is providing to these problems (nor do I think they're legitimately trying to solve them), But we're going to dead end if we don't do something about it.

Tax the rich, pay generous wages, focus on local manufacturing, fix pricing and force market competition.

Unless the system doesn’t oversee them, because then the standards of the system don’t apply to them, and they can be exploited.

Farmers can go fuck themselves for doing modern day slavery exploitation.

Oh, your profits were based on how little you can pay your employees? HOW ABOUT YOU SUCK MY FUCKING DICK.

Yes but if the farm work doesn't get done you are looking at the next thing which will be the great American famine, which I expect somewhere this summer. If the US food production falters and importing food is made very expensive though tarriffs, Americans are not going to have enough food.

It's going to be like post revolutionary China in so many ways.