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[–] 203 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

The most important aspect of this that I think most people are missing is that they are specifically trying to bias the public into thinking he definitely did it. There is no "allegedly" in how they've treated him, they are actually using the positive public sentiment about what he did to continue to build the idea that it was definitely him and we don't need to go to court to prove it. The public loving Mangione and believing he definitely did it is actually in many ways beneficial to their case. It helps solidify the idea in the general public eye that "he did it" before any court case has looked at the facts.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Innocent until proven guilty, but if you say anything about that they’ll probably nix you from the jury pool so if you get selected just act dumb

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My wifes an attorney and has "guilty until proveb innocent" real big on her. Its so f'd up

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's why making sure potential jurors are educated on jury nullification, how it works, and how to not be prematurely dismissed as a juror is so important.

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    Basically it means that you can return whatever verdict you want as long as you don't say something stupid like "I don't actually believe this by the way."

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  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago*

    Well, good luck. /s

    The stupid bastards would have a hard time throwing a stone anywhere in any American city without hitting someone who's been fucked over or had their family damaged/destroyed by an insurance company.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He has a higher approval rating than any branch of government.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And even if he did it; a lower body count

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And the amount of people he saved in the weeks of scrambling and approving cases the industry did counterbalances it by multiple orders of magnitude.

    It's just like they said in Wanted. Kill one, save a thousand.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Sucks this guy sits in a jail cell for a crime he didn't commit. I keep trying to tell people that Luigi Mangione was fishing with me and my roommate that day, but nobody listens.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    No he couldn't have been. He was at a sex party with me in Oakland. Weird to have a straight guy there, but someone insisted. Had a thing for smarmy Italians, so I couldn't really object.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's strange, I was out with him having a meal that day when he supposedly was doing the thing he's accused of... Certainly you must be thinking of a different day...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This might be a time zone thing. So you were out with him at about 5 right? But I was out with him at about 5, Pacific.

    Were you in Asia?

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've yet to see any proof Luigi was in New York that day. How has the prosecution not released photos of him leaving central park by now? It's basically impossible to get into or out of the park without cross at least one camera path. Unless of course, they know he didn't do it but fucked up their investigation so bad they'll never find the real shooter and just pinning it on some patsy they already had on a watch list.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If he was in PA in a MCDs how can he be in NYC at the same time.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well lets stick to facts. He was arrested at McDs 3 days after the murder.

    However, nothing of what he supposedly had in his possession makes sense, especial with the revelation his bag was searched illegally off camera before they finally turned on a body cam to search it.

    MO doesn't make sense that he would go through efforts to hide his identity in New York and ditch clothing backpack but keep the fake IDs, gun and manifesto saying everything cops would want to hear on his person 3 days later.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That has been a constant factor from the beginning. They were issuing warnings about him being "armed and dangerous". Meanwhile social media was laughing at the cops, saying they had nothing to fear, with many saying they would help shelter him if given the option. They set him up with a dozen heavily armed cops bullet resistant gear, etc. for transport and within the same week there were multiple murderers being escorted by just two cops casually walking.

    The media, the cops and the prosecution has been trying to paint him as a violent and dangerous criminal. Meanwhile the only people with something to fear, are the very wealthy and cops.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Luigi Mangione confirmed to me there really is a loosely organized cabal of extremely rich people keeping the flow of information under control.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Not even loosely organized. The NYC police commissioner (Tom Selleck's role in Blue Bloods) is an heiress to the Tisch fortune (Loews Corp), including NYU's Tisch School of the Arts, Tisch Hospital, and 50% ownership of the NY Giants.

    The Sociopathic Oligarchs have a representative on the front line of this prosecution. They are maintaining control of this from the top.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I didn't think it was this coordinated before the healing of that Brian Thompson shaped wound in the world.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    They're not doing a great job with that, ngl

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    Luigi is innocent! Prove it otherwise, cunts.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    On paper they should care about the truth. Also on paper their KPIs usually involve conviction rates and numbers.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    This one is way too high profile to be about conviction rates. Also likely the big shots in the office that hound the people about conviction rates will take on the case themselves because they want to be on TV. And since they don't normally do any work, they might fuck it all up, like what happened in the Alec Baldwin case.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The only thing they give a shit about is sending a message that the privileged class is untouchable and not to be messed with. Look no further than how lax they're treating the guy that popped those Minnesota congresspeople, the rich are in a different league and must be revered as such.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for putting Luigi back in the news again!

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago

    "We noticed, it's pathetic."

    -The Public.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Good luck with that. You should show me video from 20 different angles irrefutably proving him the assailant and I’d still hang that jury with my not guilty.

    Any real American should do the same.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    "Good luck with that" was exactly what I said in my head when I read that headline. Talk about toothpaste out of a tube, huh?

    And yeah, I don't care what anyone says, I got reasonable doubt out the wazoo. That video doesn't identify him, and any other evidence has been handled by some of the most corrupt government forces that have ever existed, so I'm not considering any of that to be valid.

    Bottom line, there's no evidence, I got reasonable doubt, Not Guilty.

    And alternatively, if somehow they could pin it on him hard, he was acting in defense of others by killing an active corporate serial killer who was responsible for suffering and deaths of millions, and would be the cause of suffering and death for millions more. He did society a favor, and deserves the Medal of Freedom.

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  • I agree with you 100%, but I want to be clear.

    Luigi could meld his mind with mine, providing 100% absolute clarity that he did it, and I’d still vote not guilty.

    Because no person died - all we lost was a vile monster who knowingly refused health care not just from the needy, _but the needy who had already paid for it_.

    The killer (whoever they are) did humanity a favor, they deserve a holiday.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    No, no, don't pay any attention to the company behind the curtain. They certainly didn't send a bunch of their trusting customers and or their family members to the grave. No, no, it's completely inconsequential to the case.

    This hell spawn shot that poor innocent oligarch, er um, family man, complicating his trust fund err...

    I said don't look behind the curtain!

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    They couldn’t bias me in his favor any more than I already am. Fail.

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  • Lmao its not fucking working

    Send more blue shells 🥰

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Good luck with that! This guy does a saint no matter what heinous shit he does/has done.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    My tears for the healthcare system have been denied due to a pre-existing condition of not giving a dam for the rich. Long live Luigi!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Jokes on them, I only read Luigi articles to fawn over the pictures

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    The tv talking heads, with such class, were frothing at the mouth with excitement about Luigi getting beat up and or raped in jail.

    Turns out the average person fucking loves the guy and what he stands for, prisoners doubly so.

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    "He's not THAT handsome."

    -Lead Prosecutor

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    They're trying so hard to make him look like the bad guy and the corrupt af CEO the good guy but I'm not having it lol

    Luigi isn't even my type but I have to admit he's pretty fine 😘

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nothing will change the public support for him, he is a hero.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Well, the feds did it to themselves. Rather than focusing on the crime of murder, they focused on the victim, who is completely unrelatable, and generally disliked, then they focused on the motive, which they presented in the context of "it was pre-meditated!" And everyone just saw a very relatable person in the accused and collectively we all kind of went "mood" ..... So I'm not sure what they expected, but that CEO guy that's not important enough to remember the name of, who died, is not the victim here.

    The victims are all the people that were denied while CEO guy was in charge, denied by the policies he put in place, promoted, demanded that people enforce, or any of the above.... Luigi is just the latest in a long line of victims that this guy has caused suffering to.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    It hasn't worked, it's not working, and it will never work

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    its biasing us for Luigi, the more they try to do that the more attention they bring, which is why they mostly stopped reporting him in the news.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They’re gonna a have to try harder lol

    Altho isn’t influencing public opinion not part of a prosecutors mission?

    Seems like the prosecution isn’t doing their job like they’re supposed to

    Also the police

    And the mayor

    Also that dead CEO guy. He had a job to do. He did it wrong and paid himself instead of paying for people’s health insurance.

    That’s why he’s dead

    That’s also why they need to “convince” people he’s bad.

    Because what he’s accused of doing is extremely popular.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Influencing public opinion is not part of a prosecution’s mission. Their mission is to seek justice and win in court. (Edit: contrary to below, it’s supposed to be overall about justice, which is why prosecutors have discretion to not try cases and have other roles like support of victims)

    Trying to influence the public is actually BAD for prosecutors since it can bias a jury pool and cause a court to grant a change of venue.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We don't have a "justice" system. We have a "legal" system. Prosecutors only seek wins (at any cost) - not justice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    pretty much why people hate jury duty, they bias the JD people against either side(stronger on one side if one side have a pretty weak case), and they only pick the ones that dont know how to talk thier way out of JD, additionally people already incensed of being out of work, and have to work with the courts that are biased against poor people and POCs. also they treat jurors like shit anyways, pay them next to nothing per day for being a juror, let alone they for jurors to wait days or hours for being selected too.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    oh are they still pretending that handsome rich guy did it?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Love him. How many guys wanna touch dicks with this dude? ;)

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    I don’t understand the pageantry behind all this. We all know this will end one of two ways. Either he’s found guilty and killed, or he’s set free and the powerful have him killed anyway.

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  • Direct from the 'No shit Sherlock' Archives.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If that's their defence then he's the old english term "Fucked."

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well they wouldn’t do their job if they didn’t

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