I'm sad that this is worth mentioning. But if you are dealing with hunger amid threats to SNAP benefits, rice and beans are very cheap per meal and can be bought in bulk. Here's some tricks I've learned:

If you get dried beans, make sure you follow the directions to pre-soak them. Canned beans are easier to prepare, just dump in near the end of cooking to heat them up. Dried lentils don't need to be pre-soaked, but I prefer to cook them separately and drain the water they boil in.

Brown rice, barley, or other whole grains have much more protein than white rice and I find them more filling. Whole grains take longer to cook than white grains.

Frying diced onions in the pot before adding the grains and water is an easy way to kick the flavor up a notch. Use a generous amount of cooking oil (light olive oil is healthiest) for cost effective calories and help making the meal more filling.

Big carrots or celery in bulk are pretty cheap too. I like to dice carrots by partially cutting length wise into quarters, but leave the small end intact to keep the carrot together to make it easier to dice down the side. Add them to the same pot as the grains after the grains start to soften. Beets are also great; skin and cube then boil separately until soft. Change up your veggie to get a mix of vitamins

Get some bulk garlic powder, hot sauce, paprika, cumin, crushed red pepper, black pepper, etc. Season and salt the pot to taste.

You'll only need 1-2 pots and a cutting knife/board for veggies.

I recommend Harvard's Nutrition Source for science-based nutrition information and they have some recipes too

Edit: discussing big changes in diet with a primary care doctor or registered dietician is generally a good idea.

Probiotic supplements may help with gas.

As a bonus this sort of meal has a very small environmental footprint.

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[–] 118 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Lentils are another good legume. Look up a daal recipe for any lentil you find, and basmati rice

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m anaphylactic to lentils and peanuts, and less allergic to other legumes too. If I ever became vegetarian or vegan I think I’d starve to death.

    I’m not currently requiring budget protein (I’m still poor-ish but not as bad as some) but my bills are about to skyrocket soon (need to upsize apartment, looking at around ~$600 increase per month) so I might need to look at budget options soon.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Edit: TIL soy is a legume lol.

    There are some good soy protein options too. Tofu can be cooked a bunch of different ways, and there's tempeh which is similar but different. One of the lesser knowns is TVP or textured vegetable protein, which is soy, but comes in different forms like mince or chunks (like ground beef). Its pretty cheap (especially in bulk), shelf stable and has good protein.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    it entirely depends where you live, here in sweden freshly harvested potatoes are almost literally free in the summer (i think they were sold for 1 SEK per kg last year) whereas the cheapest rice costs as much as normal pasta.

    I read on the news recently that some eastern european country had such an absurd potato harvest just now that the potatoes were literally worthless, to the point that farmers were basically weeping at the prospect of finding someone to take the potatoes from them.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    Dried lentils don’t need to be pre-soaked, but I prefer to cook them separately and drain the water they boil in.

    Pre-soaking lentils (and pouring the water away) makes them easier to digest, in particular it makes them bloat you less.

    https://farmhouseguide.com/benefits-of-soaking-lentils/

    An exception are dehulled lentils, like red lentils. They don't need pre-soaking and are quicker to cook, too. I often throw red lentils into the cooking water with my noodles or rice, just to add some protein into the meal.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Bean stew is one of the most delicious things you can cook whether you can afford more or not. Here's my recipe. Everything but the beans, onions, carrots, paprika, oil and salt is optional and mainly improves the taste profile. Works with almost any kind of bean. Can be done with dried beans too but you gotta handle softening them up first.

    Bean stew/soup v4.1

    • 3x beans cans - 540ml
    • 2x onion heads
    • 2x carrots
    • 2tbsp paprika, 1tbsp smoked paprika
    • cooking oil
    • 1/2 tsp salt (or less) and 1/2tsp of MSG
    • 2x chicken or beef cubes
    • marinara/tomato puree/diced tomatoes/vinegar/some other acid

    • Add beans with some water in a pot. Use OG bean water too.
    • Chop onions and carrots in small pieces.
    • Fry onions and carrots in a pan with oil.
    • Once fry is done, add all the paprika and stir for 10-20s then pour into the pot, let it boil once.
    • Add the beef/chicken cubes.
    • Add spearmint, lots.
    • Add some more oil if needed. Olive is great.
    • Add 3-4tbsp marinara, diced tomatoes or balsamic vinegar.
    • Add 1/2 tsp salt (or less) and 1/2tsp of MSG.
    • Test for salt, it might be good enough.

    Eat it with some bread or by itself. It goes well with any type of hot pepper too.

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    Yup, fresh or dried. If you're curious about it, just try the recipe exactly as described and it should come out as intended. I don't even taste during cooking anymore. I just do it with the right measurements and it comes right every time. It's an Eastern European dish that has countless versions.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You've kind of made a variety of chili. All you'd really have to do to transform it, is add chili powder and cumin. Everybody thinks chili powder is what makes chili, but that only gives it the heat. Cumin is the real flavor of chili. Add both too taste, and it's delicious.

    BTW, a cheap meat to add to chili is ground pork. You can usually find it in one pound rolls near the breakfast sausage. It tends to be significantly cheaper than beef, and sometimes even chicken. It's really cheap at Aldi. Add it to the beef to economically fill out the meat in your chili.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's very similar in ingredients but the taste profile is different since there's no cumin. It's also typically of a watery, soupy consistency although there are thicker versions.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I once made a batch, and was trying to figure out why it didn't taste right. I added more chili pepper, but that wasn't it. I finally remembered that I had forgotten to add cumin. Dumped some in, and it tasted great!

    I have been in multiple debates about whether chili should be thick, like a stew, or more liquid, like a soup. I maintain that the proper consistency is right in the middle, but that's hard to keep when it's simmering on the stove, thickening up.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's interesting in that none of my chili recipes have cumin as an ingredient, so I'd say that is far from essential.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Recipe? I've been perfecting my chili game for decades, and I've never used a recipe. We don't need no stinking recipes!

    If it ain't got cumin, it ain't going to taste like chili. Period.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    By recipe, I don't mean some written down rigid list on ingredients and processes, I mean more in the way of each distinct type of chili. I also have perfected my various chilis over decades and only one, my white chicken chili (which barely counts as chili IMO), has cumin in it. I am sure your chili is great, but I'd almost certainly prefer mine as I consider it perfect.

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  • [+] 59 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Your basic rice jazzes up well, too. Scoop of soup stock, scoop of turmeric, scoop of cumin, can of peas, cook it all together in the instant pot or rice cooker. Soy sauce and a raw egg, whip it together.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cooked plain rice freezes well too. I cook a big batch and use a small bowl to split it into individual portions. I wrap those in a little plastic wrap, and freeze it. ~2 mins in the microwave (reusing the wrap as a cover for the bowl) and I've got almost-as-good-as-fresh rice.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    as a bonus you can turn a lot of the starch into resistant starch if you let it sit overnight in the fridge before freezing it, which makes it healthier!

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Huh. I hadn't heard of that before. I do know that keeping it in the fridge overnight changes the texture though (which can make it better for some dishes like fried rice and worse for others). Thanks for the tip!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's a bit of a misunderstanding to think white rice is only "nutritionless junkfood". As you said the fortification does make it kind of like a multivitamin in addition to providing decent macros. The main issue is the loss of fiber and other nutrients bound up with it. This can be mitigated though. If you include other high fiber foods like broccoli, legumes, and/or other vegetables in the same meal it will balance the way the rice digests a little and reduce the glycemic load. Another thing you can do is cook, then chill, then reheat the rice - this will cause resistant starches to form, which have somewhat similar properties to fiber and also are good for our gut microbiome.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    As a vegan, this has been my main meal because I'm pretty lazy (usually wrapped in a tortilla with guacamole, but I also eat it plain)

    The gas issues are only a problem for a few days / weeks until your gut biome adjusts !

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Also, if this sounds too boring to anyone - do not underestimate the power of keeping a bunch of fun hot sauces around. They don’t have to be too spicy, but something similarly vinegar based will have a decent shelf life and be pretty cheap per serving.

    I’m not just eating pantry staples again, I’m enjoying a smoky chipotle bean stew on top of some fragrant mango-lime-habanero rice.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    My kids call me "bean lady" for my love of beans. They are a perfect food.

    Red beans and rice (red beans cooked with small chopped veg, long grain white rice)

    Pinto beans on brown rice, with tahini.

    Pinto beans on brown rice, with chili paste.

    Pinto beans refried with breakfast.

    Lentil dal with coconut milk and spinach (or lately with Hong Tsoi because it grows here, spinach is too fussy. )

    Garbanzo bean soup with potatoes and chorizo.

    Ful mudamas with pita and feta cheese and scallions

    Channa masala so spicy, with chopped onion and mixed pickle, on white basmati

    Red lentils and greens on sourdough toast. East with knife and fork.

    Brothy enormous white beans cooked in veg broth but with a Parmesan rind or a bone.

    I really truly love beans.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Frozen peas are great for that too. Goes with a lot of different dishes. just throw in a handful, or make a side-dish.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just want to add:

    If you are in NYC - check out the Chinese and Mexican grocery stores!!! Usually a ton of foot traffic keeps the vegetables fresh. I do most of my vegetable shopping at one particular Chinese store which I find to be the best - [except for the onions (why are the onions so bad - do chinese people not eat yellow onions?)] - and it's fun to try new vegetables!

    Also, strange, and I'm not sure what to make of it - fish in the Chinese grocery stores costs 1/2 of what it at white-people ones.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Not American myself, but my father lived in NYC and his friend (also from our country) said that in NYC if you want fresh food, the Mexicans got your back. I'm not even sure if he meant grocery stores or restaurants, but it seems to corroborate your story.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    what kind of fish is it and where is it caught? Because these days overfishing is an enormous issue and you really really really want to make sure to only buy sustainable fish, lest we completely destroy the populations.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    Rice and beans together make a full protein, so eat them together.

    Rice takes up arsenic when it grows, if you eat a lot it can add up. It's mostly in the bran which is in brown rice and is removed for white rice. Rinse many times before cooking and you can either boil in lots of excess water and drain (like you do with pasta) or parboil it. https://health.osu.edu/wellness/exercise-and-nutrition/how-to-reduce-arsenic-in-rice

    https://sheffield.ac.uk/sustainable-food/news/new-way-cooking-rice-removes-arsenic-and-retains-mineral-nutrients-study-shows

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My go to rice recipe: spanish rice

    Add some refried beans and a protein or cheese, kids will clean their plate.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Skip the olive oil. If you're buying it on a beans and rice budget, its gonna be fake olive oil anyway. Just use corn/canola/veg oil.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    depending on where you live you might even be able to find cold-pressed canola (or other kinds i suppose) oil for a remarkably low cost (you just have to buy like 2l at a time), which is very flavourful and healthy.
    The brand i buy is ~4€ per l, which isn't even that much more expensive than the cheapest oil available

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Taco seasoning goes great in beans too.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Taco seasoning and chili seasoning are very close to the same thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cumin is the defining flavor of Chili.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    4 to 5 tablespoons, yes please

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, I tend to go pretty heavy. I once went to shake in a bunch, and the top fell off, and about a quarter cup fell in! I scooped out as much as I could, but it was still pretty heavily dosed.

    It still tasted great! Strong cumin flavor, but still yummy. I ate all of it.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Some notes about gas: It's primarily caused by a combination of fiber, and in the case of beans, by the oligosaccharides. The fiber can be handled by gradually increasing intake of high fiber foods. The more you get used to eating them, the less bloated you should feel, and it generally goes down to a normal level of gas that most people experience.

    For the oligosaccharides, soaking and rinsing the dry beans does help remove a lot of it. Rinsing canned beans also helps. Taking Beano (or an equivalent) can help too. There are also claims of various spices being able to help as well.

    It's also important to note that different types of legumes can cause more bloating, or less. Experiment with different kinds to find what works for you.

    If you're willing/able to make the effort, sprouting and even fermenting will significantly help with bloating as well.

    As a last resort or easy reprieve, opting for low fiber plant foods like white rice and tofu won't hurt in the short term, though whole foods should generally be preferred because natural sources of fiber of hugely beneficial.

    On an unrelated note, I have always hated soaking beans, which is why the Instant Pot has been one of the single greatest cooking inventions I have ever used. Supposedly the pressure cooking also breaks down the oligosaccharides and reduces bloating. I just love it because I can toss in a bunch of beans and oat groats, and have enough of that stuff cooked to easily and quickly prepare meals every day for a week with each batch.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I have always hated soaking beans, which is why the Instant Pot has been one of the single greatest cooking inventions I have ever used.

    Exactly why I bought mine. Any pressure cooker will do. Beans (red, pinto, or black) 1 : 2 with water for 40 minutes, followed by natural release. I use roughly a pint of dried beans (1lb bag, then topped up out of a mixed-beans bag), to get 9 large servings.

    I also do quinoa in the same cooker 1 : 5/4 with water (or sub up to half the water with stock) for 0 minutes (just bring up to high pressure), followed by natural release. I use 3 cups dry to make 9 servings.

    Depending on your spice budget, you might feel like you are getting more by applying right before eating. But, if you want the spice flavors to permeate the beans, it's best to add them to the pot and warm them just a bit with the saute setting before adding the beans (or quinoa/rice/grains) and water.

    If you eat meat, miscut ham is also a good addition to the beans before cooking -- they will share lipids and flavors.

    I use nooch as a topping for mine, to try to keep it vegan, but what I really like is a Mexican shredded cheese blend.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    it should also be noted that you need fibre for healthy digestion, so you really should just power through the flatulence as much as you can. Avoiding fibre because it makes you gassy is like avoiding water because you don't like getting wet lips.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    If you can get a hold of some chipotle chili pepper, adding a little bit to the beans is a great way to get some smokiness and depth of flavor too. It's really strong so one container lasts basically forever

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Also a very underrated flavoring that's unjustly stigmatized because of racism is MSG. You can get really big bags of them for super cheap, and it's an easy way to make any meal taste savory.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    MSG is my secret weapon for making my cooking better than his mother's.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    MSG has been a godsend in the kitchen for us. It just makes everything taste better!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    To reduce gas with beans:

    • soak with baking soda (1tsp per cup of beans)
    • before cooking boil some water and in a bowl cover the beans with the boiled water, after 5 minutes drain and wash them and throw them in to whatever you are cooking
    • ferment the beans, best results but more work

    Also remember that as your body gets used to it, the gas is reduced.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Been on lemmy like two years, and this is the first post I'm gonna actually save for later cuz damn this is just useful and nice information to have, thank you so much for sharing!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    1kg dry beans soaked and 150g of most types of curry paste makes for a great meal. I'm currently eating red lentils and vindaloo paste with cabbage cooked in with it.

    Soak lentils overnight, then rinse and whisk to clean them off before use.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This will cost an extra few dollars but still totally worth it..add curry sauce! Aldi has butter chicken, korma, and tikka masala sauce for abt 5 bucks a jar and it is really good with rice and beans.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you’ve got some spices, as suggested above, you can basically make your own. Add a tin of tomatoes, some tomato puree, and maybe have a slightly wider selection of spices (sumac, mace, cardamom, cloves, for example) and you can have a wide variety of curry flavours without having to spend the extra on pre-made sauces.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It's the return of depression meals, 1930s style

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Unlike my dumbass family back then I'm not afraid of spicing my rice and beans like people with melanin

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    I can’t imagine spices were exactly cheap. When you’re at the point of making water pie I’m gunna guess that spices are an easy enough thing to let go of.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm not talking spices from around the globe or some shit. I'm talking jalapenos, serranos, chipotles...

    Ya know, cheap staple crops from my region of the world that grow like weeds and add flavor for cheap.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ok, with as little intended rudeness as possible: Spicing is a weird word, and usualy for clarity anything to do with heat would be “spicing” or “making spicy”.

    And yea those are definitely not too expensive at all. I really enjoy using spiciness as a way to add a a lot of depth basically for free. Everything is better with some red pepper flakes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Frankly I disagree, chili powder and paprika are spices commonly sold as spices and are just dried then crushed chilies. It's just a preservation method and in Asia chilies are preserved in chili oils so not technically a spice but is used for flavor like a spice.

    Really the only problem here is that the language we are using is so fucking bad at describing flavor and cooking.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, a little yes but if you’re specifically talking hot peppers, and you said that you were, then the bulk of what they bring to the table is heat. Flavour for sure a little, but I wouldn’t consider them spices.

    I can agree that the language is a little vague. Like at what point does ginger become a spice and not a normal ingredient? Only when it’s dried and powdered?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    leave it to lemmy users to disparage the primary staple of 3.5 billion people. "Pre-diabetic junk food" lmao sure ok

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It truly is the way too many enthusiasts on any topic think.

    Like they can't fathom the idea that other people are focused on other things despite this being 100% the reason humans were able to create what we have.

    If humans all focused on the exact same things, we'd have a very narrow scope and much less innovation.

    It's why its so hard to find good advice.

    You go to a cooking subreddit, and they'd have you thinking that unless you knew every artisinal craftsman shop in your area (your local butcher, your local baker etc etc), you must not know food, and that you need 400 dollar pans to get utility out of your cookware when literally just a common stainless steel set would do you just fine, and even if you had to replace it 20 times, it still wouldnt be the cost of the more expensive one.

    People live in their own bubbles and expect that everyone else not only could but should meet them where they are in their bubble, rather than realizing that guess what, food is just to eat for most people, not some passion they want to dedicate multiple hours a day to.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I understand your point because often in a lot of hobbies, when you are a newbie, people can be very condescending to you. But I still think that it's abnormal the number of people that know nothing about cooking, since, contrary to most hobbies, it is essential for us to eat.

    However I think that the real problem is that most people are so overworked and we have so much responsabilities, that it is almost a luxury to take the time to cook in our society. I am pretty sure there would be wayyy more people enjoying cooking if they could take their time doing it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    But I still think that it’s not normal the number of people that now nothing about cooking, since, contrary to most hobbies, it is essential for us to eat.

    It is not essential to become a cooking enthusiast to eat.

    You can be perfectly healthy eating nothing be pre prepared meals and frozen vegetables.

    You can be perfectly healthy with a few family staples in a 3 set cookware set.

    You can be perfectly ok drinking soylent your whole life.

    People on these forums are often enthusiasts as described. They go overboard assuming everyone else must be like them, and this is often an excuse they use for their condescension as if there aren't vastly different levels between eating because you need to for continued living and whatever the fuck they're at.

    However I think that the real problem is that most people are so overworked and we have so much responsabilities, that it is almost a luxury to take the time to cook in our society.

    Nah. I think plenty of people simply do not enjoy cooking and thats perfectly fine. If I had less obligations and more time, I wouldn't waste it learning to cook to the level they have. I have very little interest in cooking. Maybe occasionally Ill try a fancier recipe but I'm never going to season a pan, learn how to make Croquembouche or add beef wellington as a staple in the things that I eat.

    If I had more time, Id be putting that into my hobbies. Id be making more things, going more places, not wasting my time slaving over a kitchen counter.

    I fully respect that this is a completely subjective perspective. Obviously for some, they might read "waste" and feel incensed and that language, but that language is simply accurate for me. I don't expect it to be accurate for everyone.

    I have lazily been buying the same bag of high fiber mixed vegetables for monthes because it has the mixture of things I need dietarily and I mix that with frozen meals that have reasonable mixes, and through in some simple cooked meals as well (I mean simple too, like scrambled eggs on toast or vegetable soup or meat with gravy on rice).

    To me the time would absolutely be a luxury, but cooking is not what I'd like to spend it on. To me, given we still have limited life spans, it would still be a waste of that span.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Rice, oil, little tomato paste or *sauce, pinch of sugar, whatever spices you have -> mexican rice

    Large skillet of cooked rice, 1 scrambled egg, salt. Stir egg in to rice over heat and mix until cooked. Eggs and rice. Decent flavor, super filling, reheats well.

    Rice, soaked black or soaked red beans, Filé powder, chilli powder, salt. cook like it's just rice. red/black beans and rice, heartly flavor, super filling.

    1 single sausage patty cooked and chopped super fine, file powder, skillet of cooked rice, salt - > dirty rice.

    1 serving of cheap uncooked spaghetti broken into 1/2 inch pieces, 3C uncooked rice, 2 tlbs of high heat oil, stir until pasta browns a bit, water barely to cover, stir in salt, dry italian herbs, butter if you have it, tight lid. stir occasionally, DIY Rice-A-Roni.

    Throw a single uncooked chicken wing in a large pot of uncooked rice and water, cook normally. it will flavor the rice and you can still eat the wing or tear the meat off into the pot.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We put 45 minutes on the electric pressure cooker and get the smoothest beans.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's how I start my refried beans. After pressure cooker add oil (lots...), salt, and a little vinegar. Sauteed onions, cumin, chili powder also good.

    I think it's way better than any vegetarian refried beans that you get in a can. Probably because they have more salt and oil...

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  • Good post. Will try it out.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also, for what it's worth, hot sauce also makes you feel way more full/less hungry. If you need an addition.

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