I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours.

But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave.

And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!"

I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.

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[–] 89 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Tell your DM you have a fever, and the only cure is real dungeons and dragons with cowbells.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    As someone who has played alot of Call of Cthulhu there is a distinct lack of Cthulhu. But I am presently playing Traveler and let me tell you something - there is A LOT of traveling.

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  • [–] [S] 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's called "Call of Cthulhu", not "Sighting of Cthulhu", forehead

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    DM: "The phone rings."

    Player: "I pick it up."

    Cthulhu: "Wasaaaaaaaaaaaaap!"

    Player: *Cries blood*

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    It really depends on who your DM is.

    I have not yet played a campaign without either dungeons or dragons. A gold dragon is typically the one giving us quests, which requires delving into dungeons or we end up being captured and thrown in one by the BBG.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Protect that DM at all costs. They truly understand what it means to create a D&D campaign

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oddly enough, they're pretty much the only Steam friend I still have that reguarly comes online other than my sister. It's the other 3 players that have fallen off the face of the earth that keeps us from playing again 😔

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    .........ngl I've been looking for a campaign to join 0_o Just saying :D

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just saying twice over, for good effect, you know?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Like you said, it's been around for a while, so most of the actual dungeons have been picked clean and all we've really been left with over the last 30-40 years barely fit the legal definition!

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    All the good dungeon real estate got bought up by early adventurers with their collected loot, so now they are located in gated communities or expensive adventuring resorts. Everyone else gets the roadside discount dungeon experience with plastic monster chotchkes for loot drops and pugs and chihuahuas dressed up in skeleton and dragon costumes.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You made me realize Balder's Gate 3 does in fact contain ample dungeons and even multiple dragons.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My players have yet to discover any paths. They just keep following the ones that are readily visible on the map!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I recommend Kingmaker, then. There is a lot of exploring of new paths and a bit of king making.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Blame it on two year old Cindy Gygax who picked the name out of a few choices.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This sounds an awful lot like a story Gary made up to cover for his mistake /s

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    Supposedly some sources in the past claimed his wife made the pick, but wiki says it was his daughter. Given how many variants I've seen over the years to avoid a copyright, it seems a good choice. Even became well known for the name by people who didn't understand it, like Jack Chick tract readers.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I started a campaign where, after 20 years of gaming with this group, we were finally going to have a dragon for a big bad. Then my entire country collapsed irl, destroying the game. It's like the universe abhors actually having dragons in your D&D game.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave.

    I've always wondered how the term "dungeon" as it's used in RPGs came to be. a lot of appendix N literature had locations we would now consider dungeons, but were they called that at the time? and then the first RPG dungeon was the literal dungeon under Blackmoor Castle, but very early on we had dungeons that stopped being literal dungeons- didn't B1 and B2 exclusively have cave "dungeons?" and the Ruined Tower of Zenopus in the first Basic book had underground portions but I think those were caves too!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Dragon Delves exists, it is, I believe 12 different dragon focused adventures for levels 1-12.

    I recently ran a group of high school kids through The Shattered Obelisk Phandelver and Below, which has a dragon in it. The group kept avoiding the area with it. I finally had it make an appearance to save their bacon.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    We asked our DM to avoid using flying enemies after a dragon tpk’d us by breath weaponing and retreating for 30 rounds. Give me a tarasque before you even consider offering me a competent dragon

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This implies the existence of incompetent dragons and I really want my DM to have us fight one

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    I play dragons like "vainqueur the dragon" aka very full of themselves and won't actually listen to anything the players say. Its hilarious because its made to frustrate the players as much as possible. Getting a dragon to do anything is a monumental task.

    MINNON!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Off the top of my head:

    • Cast Fly yourselves or purchase/acquire some boots of flying
    • Elemental resistance or immunity vs the element of dragon's breath you expect to be meeting, from the Protection From Energy spell or from equippable gear
    • If you're confident in your spell save DC, Hold Monster is a fun one to cast on any flying creatures
    • buy a bow and arrow
    • better yet, buy a ballista and a mule to tow it around
    • buy a couple dozen health potions that you chug furiously on the rounds that you aren't being breath-attack-strafed
    • have the fighter make consecutive grapple checks to Los Tiburon the dragon into the fucking dirt

    There are a lot of ways to deal with this, you just have to get creative and maybe set yourselves a short side quest or two to acquire what you need for the real job. Half of the above suggestions can be accomplished by a single tactically minded cleric, and no arcane caster worth his salt isn't going to know how to fly by level five, wizards that can't fly generally don't live very long and sorcerors that can't fly don't get laid.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    That sounds like a job for Readied Actions!

    (Our DM tried that with the dragon at the end of Icespire Peak, but fortunately my character had a spell that grounds flying enemies and it failed its save. Dragons aren't nearly as bad when you know they're coming and have an entire campaign to build your character towards fighting them. Surprise dragons are a nightmare though!)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We kept readying actions! Used cover, avoided grouping up, tried distracting it, begged pleadingly, etc. as well. All that did was cause the dragon to choose two squishies to kill before the others. Prepping would have been an excellent idea, but in our defense, we were very dumb

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Ah, the bane of all adventurers: planning. Why waste time with thinky-think when big stick already hit good?

    Though our party of three didn't include any ranged weapon characters (and my druid was the only caster), so we'd have been completely screwed if the dragon didn't fail a save before I ran out of spell slots. A strength save, so our own "plan" was a stupid gamble that only paid off due to luck.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The Dungeon is YOUR MIIIIIND. The Dragons are the friends we made along the way. At least I assume so. I don’t play Dungeons & Dragons, I play Deeandy Fivey.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Be the change you want to see

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not with that attitude.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    If you compare it with most other rpg:s there's actually a lot of both dungeons and dragons in DnD.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Funny story, it's to fix the second half of this complaint that TSR got Dragonlance going

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    My players have finally encountered a dragon for the first time last week. They managed to resolve the situation peacefully and have taken up a quest to do for the dragon. Currently they are being mogged by a Blob of Annihalation instead. Fun times.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Oubliettes and nebbishes?

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