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[–] 82 points 1 year ago (30 children)

insiders question whether the self-styled boundary-pushing A-lister can still be counted on to carry a franchise vehicle to the bank.

See this is the problem. Insiders still thought Jared Leto was a good pick.

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  • [+] 57 points 1 year ago (10 children)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's always seemed to be the opposite. People excited for the film, and then they see he's got a part and they say "oh no..." To be fair, I think he did well in Bladerunner:2049, but he was just playing himself, I think.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought he was good in House of Guuci as a cousin who is only on screen for like 20 minutes of the movie. His other roles leading up to Tron Ares I have not liked one bit

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    That's like saying Robert Patrick carried the Terminator franchise despite only being in T2.

    And even then, his role is a hell more memorable than whatever supporting roles Leto has done.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I would argue that “insiders” in this case are the people who listened to Jared Leto directly.

    Jared Leto was one of the main producers of this movie, so he was the one selling himself as the star. “My cult will love it!”

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    Other than suicide squad, what other DC film was he in?

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don't remember the Harley quinn movie at all. I saw it, but... Yeah. Nothing really left an imprint to my memory.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Lol I know I saw it. I just remember nothing from it. So it must not have been that good. Or that bad, I guess.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You might be thinking of THE suicide squad. She gets on a rope to kill the general and take his keys.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    But.... Why? The only role I can remember him ever being decent in was fight club and American psycho, and that's mainly because it was enjoyable to watch Jared Leto get his shit rocked. Every movie I can think of that he's been in a lead role has bombed.

    Suicide squad? Giant turd Morbius? So bad it became a meme Tron? Apparently awful, I'm not gonna watch it 30 seconds to mars? First album was okay, maybe the rest of their music would be better if he'd stop trying to fuck 15 year olds backstage.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Gird your loins and try "Requiem for a Dream". It's a phenomenal heartbreak of a movie and I genuinely think Leto was fantastic in it. It's a flick I think everyone oughta watch at least once.

    Apart from that? No clue where anyone got the idea he was a "franchise-leading man". Or an A-Lister, for that matter.

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  • [–] 102 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Jared leto is an actor who would get me to avoid a movie I would otherwise be interested in.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yep he creeps me the fuck out, he's a bad lot and he's not been great in anything I've seen.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He was pretty good in Lord of war. Ironically also Nick cages best acting. Now that I think of it, whoever directed that should get a lifetime achievement award for getting good acting out of the two of them. But yeah Jared Leto sucks and I'm fairly positive there's some fucked up armie hammer kind of shit going on behind the scenes as well.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Leaving Las Vegas has amazing Nick Cage acting.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Never saw it. But I did like the unbearable weight of massive talent. But he basically just played himself and Pedro pascal was perfect in it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He didn't basically play himself he literally played himself.

    Daddy Pedro is dreamy though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    I mean, you're not wrong, he literally played himself, but he did it well. Like a version of himself that we see him as. Probably not how he is at home by himself tho, is what I'm assuming.

    Edit: Pedro is still the man, even if his trajectory is leveling out.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Jared leto is an actor who would get me to avoid a movie I would otherwise be interested in.

    FTFY.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    When has Leto EVER "lead" a franchise?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He's clearly the lead of the Morbius franchise.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ah yes, the famously long streak of 1

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Has he ever been an A lister? He's always been a B or C list player.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Jared Leto isn't a lead actor. Never has been. Never will be again.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Look like its morbin time again.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Dear Jordan Catalano, Angela is not as into you as she thought.

    Also, for Tron Ares specifically, I know that I am instantly turned off the moment a franchise that mostly exists in another world/dimension/etc. decides it's going to do something in "the real world." I know Tron isn't as bright-line as other IPs, but the appeal is still largely in seeing how the inside of computers and networks is anthropomorphized and analogized into an alternate universe that comments on contemporary anxieties about technology. Nobody was asking to see light cycles and recognizers in LA.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    This was what turned me away from it, too. I loved the first one as a kid. I enjoyed most of the sequel(?) as an old person.

    There’s a shit-ton more they could do in that universe, a place that seems to offer escapism from reality but comes burdened with its own conflicts that parallel ours — conflicts that are solved, largely, if I’m remembering right, through self-sacrifice in defiance of money-grubbing capitalists and power-hungry rogue-program autocrats.

    There’s a lot of hope in the two movies; I didn’t get that feeling from the trailers for this one and will probably be skipping it.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I quite enjoyed Tron Legacy. Shame they couldn't continue that on.

    I despise reboots - especially ones that ignore the original (coughfemale Ghostbusterscough)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    cough female Ghostbusters cough

    Found the misogynist /s

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ha ha. It's easy to make that point just from the text but I remember watching a video comparing the comedy of it.

    Here is an evil YT link - https://youtu.be/jsxa2tOWs6w

    I really wanted to like it. I did enjoy Afterlife. Was a little iffy on them using kids but whatever. Their heart was in the right place.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I thought Afterlife was solid, Actors were good, plot was believable, cameos were great. The reboot just tried too hard to be funny where it wasn't, and felt more like those SNL skits in years where it didn't click. I's a great example of why reboots should be a rare thing driven by a working plot and not done just because someone thinks it's a good idea or for a cash grab on a franchise.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was really annoyed that Feige decided to reboot Ghostbusters rather than continuing it. It would be easy to do a third. movie with that cast.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I liked the one with Olivia Wilde in tight tron leather

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have a friend who likes to review movies in a similar style to Hideo Kojima, i.e. He refuses to be disparaging but the worse a movie is, the less he says. His review of Tron: Arse was, "It has a nice bassy soundtrack".

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not all his fault - the script and plot were dire. Nobody came out of this looking good except for the music, visuals, Jeff Bridges and Depeche Mode.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    All they had to do is continue Tron Legacy's story line with Sam and Quorra.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    The TRON franchise has always been in the wrong hands. Disney is doing the bare minimum with it, to not lose the license.

    The first movie was great, TRON 2.0 is one of the best games ever made and I also liked TRON: Uprising (which was promptly cancelled after one season, of course). Everything else is just mid or mediocre.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Wait and pirate it. At least that way you won't feel too bad when you shut it off fifteen minutes in.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I pirated the borderlands move and I wanted them to refund the data & electricity.

    I have a feeling this will be the same deal but not as bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I watched the Borderlands movie at the cinema. The most entertaining part was how disappointed the audience was. I mean, I knew it was trash. I hoped it would at least be entertaining trash, but no, that movie is just extremely boring.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Oh no. Anyway...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why do they keep making Tron movies? Tron doesn’t even matter in the first sequel that carries his name.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I might be in the minority, but, I enjoyed Ares.

    They reveal the character in the red/orange hue and I thought it might be ok with him being the bad guy.

    Then I see he's producing it and it was pretty easy to see he was going to turn face and this was going to be the movie, that's when I said this isn't going to be good. However, his flat acting played pretty well into an AI that's learning.

    All of the Tron movies require a major suspension of disbelief, none of them are going to win awards for plot, but that's not what these movies are for. When I see a Tron movie I just want to be entertained with pretty visuals and a solid soundtrack. If I want a movie that's going to challenge my view of the world I'm going to go somewhere else.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I thought it was fine. I was surprised to find the stakes were interesting since I was just there for the visuals and the soundtrack. The visuals were cool, especially in 3D, but I only really noticed the soundtrack a few times. The jet ski scene was probably the coolest part of the movie.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I despise Leto as much as the next person. But credit where credit is due, I did enjoy his role in House Of Gucci. But that might be his broken clock moment.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    He's an OK actor, even great in a few roles.

    It's so annoying how anyone disliked on the internet has to be a failure at literally everything and any concession of talent is interpreted as you being their #1 fan who endorses everything they've ever done.

    I don't like the guy and won't pay to watch his movies because he's a creep.

    It's possible to be a shitty person and be talented.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is like trans people calling out a movie that has a trans person played by a cis actor. Hear me out, my point is less offensive than it sounds at first. The guy is a sociopath. If you want a sociopath in your movie, hire a real one. Like, certain actors can be great at a ton of different roles, but trying to get a truly chilling role out of tom Hanks would be far more difficult than with Leto. The same could be said about Leto playing a hero. It just doesn't work. There's tons of actors who have done real good work playing villains most of their career. Just accept that that's who Leto is, that dark, chilling, creepy fucker that everyone wants to see die at the end. That's the roles he should get. And really the only roles he's good at. Even an antihero like morbius just doesn't work. He needs to be full on villain.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You can just say the roles he was good in were written for him, the whole trans metaphor you have at the beginning of your paragraph really threw me because it's extremely random and pretty clunky.

    I do get your point though, he's good at playing a creep because it's close to his original personality.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's the point I was making. If you want to get the real emotions and headspace of a trans person, who better to do it than a trans person? If you want a sociopath, who better to get in the headspace than a sociopath?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I can't say I've ever seen Jared Leto in any role aside from his (practically nonspeaking btw) role in Fight Club.

    Maybe YOU think he's okay as an actor. I just think most people haven't seen any evidence of that, but they have seen him be a colossal failure (Joker role, Morbius) and have only really heard bad things about him.

    Probably the reason why people are interpreting you as being his #1 fan is because you're defending him and you really don't need to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You haven't seen the guy in shit yet you say I'm defending him? Fuck off with that stupid bullshit lol

    Your opinion is worthless because by your own admission you're completely ignorant.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, yeah, you are literally defending him and getting mad at me and throwing a tantrum over a pretty civil and good faith comment.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I think it's possible to separate the art from the artist. He can be a huge piece of shit with no ability to "read the room" as it were... but still be a good actor under the right circumstances.

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