I always felt like it was wrong to block an account unless it was smth absolutely insane. Nazis etc.

But now I'm blocking people who's tone I dont like, or who are baiting or actingnin bad faith.

I know I can't do it as a mod. But i can certainly do it as an individual now. Judgy comment? Blocked. Unnecessarily confrontational? Blocked.

This is new to me, literally 3 days. Wonder how this affects my feed. Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can't see it. I wish they couldn't see anything I posted either.

What are your blocking habits? If you do block a lot of people, has that affected your experience?

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[–] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I block freely. My time and attention and mental and emotional bandwidth are limited resources, and to the extent possible I intend to spend them carefully.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    When I see I have a message/reply in my Lemmy inbox, then open the inbox and see nothing - there is such a relaxing feeling pressing "mark all as read", knowing I just avoided an annoying interaction from some idiot I've blocked in the past.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I wish there was a hide posts option, rather than a flat out block. There are some overly prolific posters that i would like to block, but their comments are not an issue, just the 40 rapid fire posts they make everyday.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    Or even more granular. There's folks that make a large number of posts that I do like in some comms, and a large number of ones I don't care about in other comms.

    If they're the main one making low effort posts in the Weevil community or whatever, but everyone else is great, it would be preferable to prune the community for myself instead of blocking it or them.

    I still think they're a net positive for Lemmy and want to interact with them, just we may not like all the same things in the exact same way.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's great for your mental state.

    Just be aware of any filter bubble you might create. If you block every person that has an opposite perspective, you'll fall into your own echo chamber.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Just be aware of any filter bubble you might create.

    That's a great point. I block pretty easily, but for rudeness, not for disagreement.

    I've blocked some assholes that I wholeheartedly agree with, but I just don't want to read them abrasively support things I believe in.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    This is the biggest reason why I only block sparingly. If you aren't regularly challenged in a way that forces you to assess and explain your world view and why it makes sense to you, then you risk becoming detached from reality in the same way that so many people have these days. It's easy to fall into the idea that your way of thinking is inherently correct, especially when you only interact with people who agree with you.

    It's tough to interact with someone who disagrees with you, especially on the internet where people can be unnecessarily harsh, but it's also good to do for your own understanding of the world. I think of it like a workout for my moral compass - if I can't fully explain why my viewpoint is more accurate than someone else's, then there's something I'm missing, and I know where I need to spend more time reassessing my beliefs.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Blocking is great. I truly wish more people would block. We would be able to all have a more enjoyable experience.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A shared suggested blocklist would be helpful for new users. Growing it organically is the way to go imo but I know some in my life who rawdog the internet w/o ad block without knowing they can do something about it.

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    I may have to start doing this. I've subscribed to enough that I see enough to keep me occupied, and if I don't I go to All and add anything that I find particularly interesting. This mean I miss new things I might really enjoy unless I'm not as occupied with my current subscription list. This could be better.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can't see it. I wish they couldn't see anything I posted either.

    I understand. Lemmy users are divided on that issue because not only can these people see, comment and downvote your post, they can manipulate the situation to their advantage (feel free to use your imagination or search posts about blocking).

    FWIW, I hear you loud and clear. Please understand that there are plenty of people in this world who are angry, unfulfilled and can’t/won’t touch grass whose only gratification is to try to make other people miserable. This mental instability coupled with current events is unfortunately unleashed here in Lemmy and you.

    Block away and save your sanity. I’m here for the jokes and your memes. If I want to argue, I’ll go to work and get paid. Sadly, you are a volunteer and many people don’t realize that — they seem to think that it’s your job to take their crap. For that, I am truly sorry.

    Two of my friends recently blocked .world and had good experiences with users from other instances. Recently, there was negativity in Uplifting News that had to be addressed; a .world mod left because they were burned out; some more drama recurring also at .world instance.

    Please take good care of yourself and don’t take &#!+ from any of us!

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    First of all, thank you. Secondly, when did you change instances?

    Also. Modding is easy in my comms. The biggest is !aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz at 3k subscribers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol, I’ve been lurking since June but couldn’t decide which instance to sign up with; my friends are scattered all over the fediverse.

    Yes, I’m one of the idiots who picked an instance because I like the name. That’s my major decision for the year.

    I just subscribed. That community looks good, thanks!

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Picking by name is as good a reason as any. Can always move to a different instance

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Since I'm on .world... Can you explain why they blocked the instance? I haven't really paid much attention to the different instances.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Drama, angry people and excessive crossposting and reposting.

    It’s a big instance which means a lot more people, so you will always run into a .world user and/or .world community — some are awesome and others are not so great. It was easier for them to block an instance after blocking 50+ communities and people. There’s also this:

    Uplifting News https://lemmy.coffee/post/429320

    Cooking https://lemmy.coffee/post/478931

    There’s also drama at other communities like YPTB but it was really hard for me to follow; I saw it because my feed was set to ALL. Some of us come here for the news, memes and the occasional recipe but not to be verbally abused or bear witness to one.

    In addition to the controversies, the amount of news articles being crossposted to four other news communities by the same user (user # 1) was just overwhelming. Then, another user (user # 2) will do the same exact thing, unbeknownst to them that the same articles were already posted since the time gap was usually about 5 minutes or less.

    What do you do? Start blocking.
    Just when you think you have it all figured out, user # 1 creates an alt account and wipes the smile off your face. As you start blocking, user # 1 creates another alt account… and another. Holy cow!

    Lucky for us, the weather is nice so to the great outdoors we go. TBH, I’ll probably be very annoyed if this is happening in the middle of a blizzard, lol.

    Nice to meet you, FishFace. I like your name!

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    More people need to make use of the curation tools available to them in my opinion. Too often I see people browsing /all and then complain about seeing tons of stuff that they don't like. There are tools that are available to them to help them create a more pleasant experience that they just aren't using. The fediverse doesn't have some algorithm that learns the type of content that you most often engage with and feed it to you, you have to more proactively do the curation yourself.

    Just as an example, I was in a conversation with one of the lemmy.world admins a while back. We were talking about instance blocks and how infrequently users actually use them. Across all of the users on lemmy.world, only about 700 of them actually created an instance block for the most-blocked instance (lemmynsfw). Only two instances had more than 500 users block it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I thought lemmynsfw was sort of 'mass-delisted' by most instances? In that users from lemmynsfw.com can interact with the wider fediverse but the communities on there don't display out to other communities - because the issue is the communities there, and not the users.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Been doing this with a warning system. I tag shitty people and block them if I see a person who is tagged acting shitty.

    2 years in, no regrets.

    I do wish Lemmy would fix the blocking system though. If someone who I've blocked responds to me, I don't see it. Fair enough, but I also don't see what people who respond to that say. I feel like it should just show the username as [blocked] and the content as [hidden] with an option for me to show that content/username, while keeping the rest of the child content fully visible.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How should Lemmy handle it if they quote a portion or even the entire message in a child comment? If someone's goal is to not have to worry about shit someone says, and then they are still shown what that person says, does that not defeat the purpose of blocking?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Show it.

    Take for example the case where person A has blocked person B.

    Person C comments. Person B responds.

    New thread, same post, person C comments about how some people think like person B, and quote them.

    As is the current case, person A can see this quoted material. It's just text. It's not in any programmatic way tied to the person B account.

    We don't need to change this just because it's a child comment of person B.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What are your blocking habits?

    I made it through nearly two years and eventually caved after I made the mistake of arguing in favor of the truth, supported by video evidence and a fact check from an internationally recognized fact-checking organization only to be told to "fuck off", a second user said that they enjoyed pissing on my shoe(s) in their personal fight against truth, and some other catastrophically braindead takes. I generally don't like the blocking approach for opinions I don't agree with because everyone has differing views and also people have bad days and that's just life. However, being actively hostile to the truth and being extremely confrontational about it was a bridge too far for me and it was either blocking a few mouldy potatoes in an attempt to keep things tolerable or getting off the threadi/fediverse so I decided to give the former a whirl.

    If you do block a lot of people, has that affected your experience?

    Thankfully haven't felt the need to block many, so the only thing I've really noticed is that occasionally one of the blocked users comments in the thread for something I've submitted (which I don't get a notification for and can't see) - but then someone unrelated replies to them and then I get a notification for a comment chain which I can't actually load. It took me a while to even figure out why I was getting these "ghost" notifications.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I have gone through phases of blocking very vocal idiots, but then as you said I feel at an informational disadvantage.

    I've gotten recently into tagging people with descriptions of repeated behavior. That way I still know what's going on, but I know what to expect from them.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    People keep mentionkmg tagging. I'm on eternity and it doesn't have the option. Are y'all using your browser for Lemmy or dk other apps have this option too?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm on Sync, dunno about anything else.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Keep it up. Don't let FOMO loosen your standards. If people acted like this to you in person, you would avoid them. Do it online as well.

    Sadly we interact so much online that the bad behavior of social media is now informing people how to behave IRL.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've gotten more aggressive with blocks lately. Feels like there's been a lot more arguing and drama on here lately than usual, and I haven't been on as much because of it. Blocking at least drowns a lot of that out.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I just tag the worst assholes and then simply not engage next time.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I have similar blocking habits. People who will not be enriching my life tend to announce themselves with brain-dead comments, hostility, or starting arguments just for the sake of arguing. I don't hesitate to block people like that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think the ability or willingness to have a decent conversation with people who have a different opinion is important for the advancement of ideas and a cornerstone of what we call civilization. I find it so weird to see how people "debate" these days instead of conversing, it's somehow more about winning than finding the truth of a matter. Watch for example how political discourse has changed over the last few decades, compare discussions from the 70s like Chomsky vs Foucault to the circus of today. People are already largely separated in different platforms, blocking only exacerbates the bubble effect. That being said, to each their own and I hope your life is better for it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I have been working in IT for too long. First thought upon reading the title was you were obstructing someone’s work.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I have blocked hundreds of communities to sanitise my ‘all’ feed, and a few foreign language instances. But only a handful of obnoxious users. The users I’m inclined to block often end up banned anyway

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I'm more on mastodon and their filter system is so nice

    I made a filter for "idiot did a thing" and every time the news has another article about how some idiot whose name is on my list did something again, as they do, because that's all they've been doing for 20 years, I no longer have to read it.

    But I still get the little "something was blocked, click here to read it" thing, so it's very satisfying.

    I don't block often, but I would expect it's a similar upgrade.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I block people who are dishonest or abrasive. I'm here for entertainment, not for any higher purpose. I'm not obligated to give those people any attention and I have nothing to gain by it.

    I'm blocking maybe a dozen across all of Lemmy. Things are much more pleasant.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yes. I block at the drop of a hat, but I'm still really not blocking all that many total users. Most folks here are very considerate.

    It is funny though, I'll often see half a conversation with an asshole - and I won't know if it's because the community is well moderated or because I just previously blocked the asshole.

    More rarely, I'll see half of an interesting good faoth conversation, and I'll revisit and unblock someone.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I am fast and loose with blocking on all platforms. No regrets.

    It's often not even personal. Sometimes someone expresses a mild dislike of cats and I'm like "don't need your noise".

    Repost a hilarious meme that I whole heatedly agree with, but with the word "fuck" poorly crossed out? "Algo-speak promoting motherfuckers", roll of the dice on my mood, probably blocked.

    My Guild Wars 2 ignore list is full of people labeled "says boiz too much", "annoying fashion", "made bad joke about bees".

    There are so many people on the Internet, it's fine. I've taken this approach since MUDs were in fashion and I am pretty confident that it's only served to improve my online experiences.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How long before you are left with no posts on Lemmy?? 😭

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Right?! I'm surprised that I haven't just run out of internet yet, but here we are :D I'll be sure to post about it when it happens ;p

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I block individuals pretty freely, and it generally improves my experience online.

    The reason I block is because I've lived through bullies and a shitty family, and I am familiar with the techniques bad people use to eat up my time/overwhelm me.

    These days, I am also secure in myself and my emotional responses in such a way that I no longer feel bad or guilty (as I was conditioned to growing up) when I remove these people from my life. They are not owed my time or eyeballs.

    I figure that if they behave in such a way that other people (such as me) decide it's better to remove them from their life and block them--that's their fault, not mine.

    I also know my intellect well enough to understand that I'm not losing something irreplaceable intellectually if I block. I actually am better at learning and improving myself in a form that is NOT debate, or live, or putting pressure on me in the moment, because stepping away from the immediacy of something gives me the tools and breathing room to actually think.

    So folks yapping and fretting about echo chambers forming if you block and curate your experience is weird to me...even pre-internet I went out of my way to learn new things. If you're in an echo chamber, you chose to be there, it doesn't happen on its own. And blocking asshats won't magically put you in an echo chamber unless you've chosen to be in one already.

    Live debate with unpleasant people who often in this day and age have ulterior motives, including a desire to provoke an emotional response that will hinder one's thinking ability, is a technique used to manipulate others. By blocking and opting out of such things online, I can keep my temper more easily and use my brain instead.

    So yeah. I block freely, whenever I feel like, and I've stopped feeling bad about it because I have quite a bit of experience on the internet now, and have seen the patterns in which people engage, and a handy block button is basically the only effective tool to manage it with.

    I also block communities, but that's mostly just so I can browse Lemmy in public without looking like a degenerate with all the porn subs hanging out in the open.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm using Boost, so I've been using tagging a lot. It's useful to remind yourself whether someone routinely behaves in a way that you don't want to interact with.

    I've probably untagged more people than I've blocked at this point. People are complicated, moods change with the weather.

    Also helped me to correlate that the majority of my tags were on ml users. I've filtered that instance and, can't lie, using Lemmy is much nicer now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I blocked like that on reddit but here there's fewer users so I have a higher block threshold.

    Plus I want to give people credit for choosing to be on the fediverse - that earns almost everyone a "well maybe you just had a bad day".

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    same here, but on reddit i heard after 1000 blocks, it only soft-mutes them, or does something wierd and it doesnt silence them anymore. cant really report people all the time, otherwise you can get banned for abusing report button.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Personally if I find someone very unagreeable I will check their account to see if this is their whole online personality or just one or two posts, everyone has bad days. If it seems like a a person I would rather avoid altogether I will block.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I block pretty freely, on all social media. Being both trans and religious means that people on any part of the political spectrum might think I'm subhuman, and I don't see the point of engaging when that's the case.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    I personally do not block. I have always hoped to see changes of heart in people I disagree with, and I also have been on much more abrasive communities, lemmy is kept relatively tidy (at least from my instance's point of view).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You’ve no obligation to socialize with everyone in real life, why should online be any different?

    If someone is consistently annoying, rude or spouting noxious stuff, you’re perfectly reasonable in blocking them.

    Interaction in written text online is still a fairly unnatural way for humans to communicate. It’s missing the depth that physical and aural clues provide.

    Add to that the evidence that humans can’t really manage more than about 50 relationships makes these global forums too much for a person to really handle.

    Block away. Trim your interactions to a manageable level.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    why should online be any different?

    I know I am taking the wrong message from this, but online is different in basically every way. You cannot block someone in real life. You can try to avoid them, but they can still talk to you. You can put in ear buds, but that doesn't make them not there.

    Really, the solution is to spend less time on technology and more time communicating IRL. Even if it is uncomfy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Im a big block proponent although I don't block all that many people. I usually give people enough rope to hang themselves as the old saying goes. That being said I think people need to treat internet media like real life. Do you go to bars you hate or hang around annoying people? Likely not. This whole your going to be stuck in a bubble is sorta bs. Hang with who you want to and avoid you like. Thats just life.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    People who I notice just dont get jokes and are in 20 different meme communities being all serious? Blocked.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    My blocked list on nextdoor is starting to max out. Have to block all the nazi's that live around me as they are a lost cause and just repeat constant propaganda.

    My lemmy block list is zero and hope it will remain that way for a while. It's fairly tame discussions here and no real issues so far.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Not many people get blocked, but blocking communities is great

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    blocked

    Kidding. I block BS and mean ness. If someone can express their point and let me express mine, I'm good. It's when people start insulting others to get their point out I just don't resonate with them and don't see a point of ever talking to them again.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Echo chamber time

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I recommend a client that allows tags instead. I only block really toxic accounts.

    trolls just get a label and they're usually at the bottom of most threads anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I block bad writers. It hurts my brain reading their work and I get sad.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'd say there could be two styles:

    • In one, you want to see the "real" unfiltered Internet, or try to not wrap yourself in information bubbles.
    • In another, you make your Internet space more welcoming and inspiring.

    Both have their merits, with the first improving your grip on real state of affairs, and the other stimulating you to be productive and positive, and being on the Internet as a place to enjoy life.

    Personally, I go with the first, since I'm very concerned about how societal attitudes shift in the world. Granted, Lemmy itself is a bit of an echo chamber, but this is not the only place I hang around.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Those categories do exist but I'd say there's a third important one which tries to achieve the first without sacrificing the second: blocking people for their attitude rather than their opinions.

    Maybe for you this still comes under the first category

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Yeah, I put it in the first, though I totally see how it should be a category of its own

    Blocking trolls and other people acting in bad faith is, in my opinion, a baseline requirement for maintaining civil discussions.

    Though by doing so you can already cut some demographic prone to certain views.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I mainly block accounts that seem like they have an agenda. Usually new accounts they post a lot about one very controversial topic. Likewise, I block accounts that are concern trolling or arguing in bad faith. There are so many bots and bad faith actors on the internet I feel like you should be blocking them because they don’t deserve our attention.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Only disappointing thing is they can still see and respond to my posts, just that I can't see it. I wish they couldn't see anything I posted either.

    I've seen this view in discussions of blocking before and it really bugs me. You're desiring to unilaterally control what I can see and do on the Fediverse.

    This is how it works on Reddit and it's a terrible mechanism. It means you can preemptively ensure that anyone who might refute misinformation will be excluded from your threads before you post them. It means you can step into a conversation I'm having with someone, derail it, and then prevent me from responding to your derail. Over on Reddit by far the most common use I see of the block tool is to get the "last word" in on whatever argument is going on, posting some sort of seemingly clever comeback and then instantly blocking me before I can point out the flaws.

    For anyone wondering how the blocking feature has been weaponized to spread misinformation, in 2022 a redditor did an experiment: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I don't understand this view either. What's it to ya? You cant see what the person does anyway. There doesn't seem to be a point behind it besides control.

    Also, it simply is difficult to implement. You have to tell every server "do not show my posts and comments to these accounts". Other servers can just choose to ignore that. It's centralized thinking to believe the "feature" will work all the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have blocked people on reddit who have stalked me.

    You're saying that they should be able to continue to do so?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Blocking and them not seeing what you write is not an adequate defense to that anyway. If someone wants to stalk you, they can just not log in at all. You're posting in a public place that everyone can see. Because of that, blocking only makes sense in one direction.

    Of course you shouldn't be stalked, but the proposed way to combat that is just useless.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    on reddit people have been scorched for blocking and reporting, you can get banned for reporting too many times, or if the specific mods in a sub deems you "report too much". i block most of the time, instead of reporting. reddit has way too many bots and trolls, propaganda to block them all. the point of blocking is to get rid of trolls and propaganda comments, dont want them to keep harassing you, or using different accounts.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I block people who are clearly trolls and that one moron who signed all their posts with an anti-ai signature that does nothing because it was either that or get banned by the mods on .world because “I’m harassing them”.

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