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[–] 79 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Huh, I guess cops arnt always shitty.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Almost every time like the one we are currently living in involves police/military people having to decide where their loyalties lie. Sometimes it's with the people, sometimes it's with the regime. Very often it is different between different agencies (with the lowest-level ones tending to side with the people).

    The US is such a patchwork (both organizationally and on in individual level for each cop) that I think there will be a big and chaotic variety. It could range from sheriff's departments headed by Trump-loyal sheriffs who are willing to go to war with city agencies who are trying to protect their people, all the way over to city cops who eventually start actively defending their cities against the feds who are trying to do obviously illegal things there. That last one hasn't happened yet but I think it may be right around the corner. Things are changing. Those city workers telling Kristi Noem to get fucked from being allowed to pee in Broadview City Hall, that stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The US is such a patchwork ...

    In just about every way. During "normal" times, that makes for more bureaucracy and Kafka, but the silver lining is that when fascists take over the entire federal government, it's harder for them to tear everything down all at once than if the country were more monolithic.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. I feel like part of it is just historical / accidental, but also, resisting fascism (in modern terminology) was more or less the absolutely key overriding priority that the US government had built into it at the start.

    Even things like having each state run its own mini-election and be in charge of it, instead of a single federal election, start to seem pretty prescient in the current climate.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    They just don't care.

    ICE called for backup once because of protestors, cops if ored them, so they shot someone in a car because there was traffic, rammed another car in traffic, and then detained at least one US citizen.

    Cops want no part of it, it doesn't mean they're out their protecting citizens from ICE, they're likely laughing about it.

    They can 100% still be shitty

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Or they're doing this intentionally hoping that it sparks some bigger conflict, where they along with ICE 'justify' getting to pull out the real big boy toys to use on the populace. Considering the coordination and organization behind the "thin blue line" and my own personal experiences with police, I'm more inclined to believe this than all them suddenly growing a conscience and doing the right thing as an organization.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Looking at the difference between LAPD and cpd behavior: It's probably because Chicago is a genuinely hard city, and the cpd know they'll be straight up fuvking hunted if they're seen protecting ice. They're not good–they're confident people will provide them with justice if they get caught up in this–as every cop should be

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    They live there, as do their families.

    You don't shit were you eat.

    It's not by chance that all throughout History rulers violently imposing their will on the people of a place invariably bring those who will be commiting the violence from somewhere else.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cops and their families do not live in the places they police, even when offered bonuses to do so.

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  • Chicago has a rule. To work for the city in any capacity. You MUST live in the city. Police, fire, City Hall, public works. You live in the place you are tasked with protecting or serving. You can't even live in the suburbs 1 block outside city limits.

    This is explicitly the opposite in many other places where police are specifically not allowed to live where they police. From what I understand, it's so that there isn't a conflict of interest enforcing rules against neighbors.

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  • [–] 132 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Kristi Noem told Fox News that Chicago was a "war zone" where her agents were not welcome to use restrooms.

    :|

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  • [–] 123 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    On Sunday, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem told Fox News that Chicago was a "war zone" where her agents were not welcome to use restrooms.

    Good. They should not feel welcome ANYWHERE they go; no comfort, no peace, to the enemy.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Noem: It's a war zone out there! It's crazy!

    Them: What do you mean? People are shooting at each other? Bodies in the streets?

    Noem: They won't let us pee in their restrooms!

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well did the ICE agents submit to gender checks first, to make sure they’re using the correct restroom? A copy of their birth certificate should suffice.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not good enough we also have to do a manual inspection. Michael testicletickler is going to be doing the inspections. Dont let the name worry you though, he doesn't tickle testicles only fingers buttholes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a great job! Do you need a college degree for that?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Actually having a degree prohibits you from getting the job.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'll pad my resume by leaving off my college degree. What are they going to do, call every college in America and see if I graduated? Hah! I got this job in the bag.

    I better order some fresh lube. I heard Diddy is selling his old lube on Craigslist.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Something, something - Third Amendment?

    I’m not an American - but I’m pretty sure the 3rd basically means that they can (and should) be refused service freely by anyone and everyone who wants to?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, the 3rd amendment means your house/apt can't be turned into a barracks.

    Refusing service is just how things are, no specific amendment

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Fair enough!

    I don’t know the exact specifics surrounding the denial of access to bathrooms (ie. if they were private residence, commercial business or public access); but in the case of the first two - even if not necessary- either the 3rd or 4th amendments could be used as grounds to legally refuse entry and/or sue in the event of subsequent unlawful trespass.

    Either way, this entire fiasco is just an amusing sideshow to the otherwise absolute carnage that ICE is attempting to wreak upon US cities.

    I just wish I still had enough faith in the political opposition to be able to hold each and every one of these barbarians (starting with Stephen Miller) to account if/when the current regime collapses in on itself.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The 3rd talks about quartering soldiers during times of peace, and the administration is making the claim that these cities are in a state of "war."

    Also, forcing a private entity to involuntarily open their facilities to soldiers needs, could still be considered a violation of 3A They may not be sleeping, but using toilet facilities could be considered quartering. That's the sort of thing that would take court precedents to establish, perhaps even the Supreme Court.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd add that they should be identified and not welcome anywhere ever.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Which is why the cops aren't cooperating. The ICE Jackals will leave town when they are done fucking things up, but these cops will still be here, living among their neighbors, going to church, the grocery store, etc. Imagine what's going to happen to your kids at school, whose Dad helped break up and deport families who had friends and relatives at school?

    No, if I'm a Chicago cop, I'm staying as far away from this mess as possible. Might even be a good time to take a couple of weeks of that PTO I've been saving up.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why are you so pro war crimes? ICE having to pee in bottles while trapped in a U-Haul is worse than Gaza. This hate for our troops has no business here!

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I liked the side article on how sad it is ice agents are being turned away at restaurants and they are not even allowed to use the restroom.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Have you no sympathy for those pathetic flag pissing traitors?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    After a hard days' work they just want to kick back at their local taquiera and enjoy a few frosty cervezas. What's the problem?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would not be surprised to learn that ICE hires undocumented immigrants and that that's one of the reasons they go around masked. It would not exactly be unprecedented -- many of the overseers on Southern cotton plantations were themselves slaves.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Very plausible. Many unfortunate souls find themselves in inescapable situations like that. If the option is Alligator Auschwitz or don a swastika and neck gaiter, most will choose the latter.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fox News correspondent Bill Melugin reported that Chicago officers were instructed not to respond to the U.S. Border Patrol's calls for help in another incident where a vehicle was rammed and a person was shot.

    "Multiple law enforcement sources confirm to @FoxNews that Chicago police officers were instructed by their Chief of Patrol to NOT respond to Border Patrol agents call for help yesterday after they were reportedly surrounded by a large crowd of protesters following a ramming incident & shooting of an armed woman," Melugin reported on X.

    That last paragraph, from a FOX News correspondent, makes it sound like it was some ad hoc decision. It was not. Illinois does not permit any state, county, or local law enforcement to assist federal agents with their federal enforcement objectives.

    ICE agents were in the middle of doing federal enforcement work. Crowd control is on them.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Never happened. The source is Fox News, the tentpole of the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and they lie 100% of the time. We are under no obligation to believe a single word that comes out of Fox News, in fact, I am inclined to believe the exact opposite.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    Kat Abughazaleh is asking people to attend a protest this Friday 10/10 at 9:30 a.m. at the ICE headquarters at 1930 Beach Street, Broadview, IL

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Not saying I'm a fan of the police, but I think they made a good call this time.

    ..... this time.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's Illinois state law that they're prohibited from assisting federal agents in doing federal agent stuff.

    So for once the cops were actually following the law.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. in WWII we were allies with Stalin, and we knew full well he was a monster, and when the war was over, we were both going to after each other.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Need an immediate response lefty team. Show up for these things and record and document everything with the intention that if government ever course corrects, there is now some record that might be able to identify these ICE agents and have justice served. They 100% are covering their face so that there's no way to charge them if courts ever try for any violations

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    That's the Chicago way.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    “If anyone is gonna torment the people here, it’s gonna be us!”

    • probably a longtime Townie Cop in Chi-raq.
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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Tbh, if there's one thing that CPD won't ever do is help a person in trouble.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Finally cops standing there doing nothing works in our favor. I never thought I'd see the day.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They earned this round of donuts.

    Always remember: A cop that's eating, can't give a beating

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do not capitulate, make them make you.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Chicago cops are pretty corrupt. So this tells you something.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Good job, Chi-town!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Time for the racist thug losers to drag their own portable shitters with them. The Blues Brothers and Chicago. The scene when Joliet Jake and Elwood drive through the fucking Nazis on the bridge. Stay Tough Chicago!

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