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If he died of natural causes, what makes you think that’s how the White House would report it. They’d say he was killed and use it to create a false divisive narrative, blaming some left wing conspiracy or assassin who doesn’t exist. They’d use it to galvanise maga behind Vance blah blah blah…
I feel we might even get a "Weekend at Bernie's" situation.
Even if they don't explicitly say it (which they will), the MAGA hordes will concoct their own conspiracy theories and believe them. After all, they are all QAnon alumni.
You hit the nail on the head re: Vance.
The cushion connoisseur occasionally pretends to give a shit about working class people (even though he doesn’t). MAGAts want their faces brazenly spat on, because they’re temporarily embarrassed billionaires and being poor makes you worthless*.
I shudder at the thought of a Kirk-led timeline though, so thank you for the silver lining.
*according to them.
they won’t be able to focus that rage, it will quickly divest into the thousand little in-groups of conspiracies, backwoods nutcases screaming into the void, random nuts in trucks driving into drugstores and shooting up pizza places.
Curious how many will assume Vance poisoned him to become president or something like that.
Look, I'm not saying that Vance has been poisoning Trump to take over, I'm just saying we all know he's capable of it. Of course we should wait till the investigation into Vance reports their findings before jumping to conclusions, but come on, everyone knows it's entirely plausible.
No that would be to competent for them, they're gonna weekend at bernie him
Coming? They're already here
Honestly if he really is ill, I very much wouldn't put it past them to off him themselves and blame the "radical left" in order to kick off the civil war they keep trying for.
If he’s dead they’ll Weekend-At-Bernie’s his corpse and get someone to shoot it, blaming “The Left™”
Some folks here believe once Trump is dead, his empire will pass onto someone else. I couldn't disagree more. Every time someone tries to do what Trump does, it's a big flop. It will all unravel with him gone. It's called a cult for a reason.
MAGA is a Cult of Personality, and there is no #2. Plenty of people feel like they are the obvious successor, but NONE of the MAGA followers believe that. They worship Trump, and Trump alone. When he dies, MAGA dies with him.
When he assumes room temperature, the knives are coming out, and the backstabbing will be glorious. All the Dems have to do is stay out of the way.
It absolutely is a cult of personality. The part that breaks my brain is that his personality is abysmal. Just gross, horrible, mean, rude, hateful, lying, cheating, hurtful. Not even objectively attractive or well spoken. Just babbling hateful drivel. I do not understand how it ever got this big except that he represents all the worst parts of humanity and he gave all the worst people the permission to be the worst version of themselves and that is more appealing than being smart or kind.
And when he does die the cult WILL implode. It already has fractured, but it will shatter into factions and infighting and it will be a big mess and lots of collateral damage. But maybe it will all be finally over. A decade of hearing his bullshit will finally end and maybe his cultists will start to snap out of the trance and be reasonable again.
He got that big because you not only described him, you described the bulk of his followers. A lot of people are just Pigs, and they're proud of it, they think it's a virtue.
Yeah. I don't know which was better. Having millions of closeted racist hateful people pretending to be nice or outwardly venom spewing racists.
At least now we can tell who the bad guys are because they broadcast it everywhere they go, and we can cut them out of our lives and try to stay away from their toxicity.
Trump is a narcissist who learned to play social media. At his core he’s a grifting and attention seeking slimeball. Everything else is sausage thumbs posting to social media and gauging what gets the best reactions.
There’s no cynical intelligence to this, but something worse: chasing the worst of mankind who revel in his boorishness. The very act of remaking himself every second to seek that attention is what makes him who he is, and it’s why he’s so hard to replicate.
Don’t believe it? Pay attention to his speeches when he’s talking about others. You can see him testing nicknames for opponents, watching the crowd to see how strong the reaction is. Watch for the satisfaction on his face when he finds the one that gets the reaction he’s looking for.
All the Dems have to do is stay out of the way.
Well, fuck.
Never underestimate the Democrats' ability to get in their own way
It's less about this being a cult, more about it being a cult of personality. Regular cults can continue on, a cult of personality dies when the personality dies.
It would also be good to prepare to take his cronies and enablers out. Legally if possible, though other ways are acceptable.
The worst outcome is he is seen walking and talking. If he dropped dead I doubt anybody else would feel emboldened to act the way he did.
I hope it does unravel without dragging the whole world into another war. But i fear the seed of hate has already taken root. Unless the entire system is purged of hate I don't have confidence it will be as simple as the Don kicking the bucket.
Exactly. Trump's control over his base is unique. This is why they wanted him on top so much. We a bit fortunate that he is such an old and unhealthy fuck instead of being someone younger. Trump was always this egotistical and delusional. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he was just 50?
Yup. Vance is never going to get the built-in MAGA fan base. Vance and Miller have none of that aggressive, ferocious stupidity that makes Trump so relatable to his base.
Theee morons are eating their own already even with the dear leader alive.
You may be 100% correct, but I would still fear that the corruption soaked deep into our institutions by this bonkers insane second term would enable the fascist train to keep rolling and take us on the rest of the ride we've already started. Everybody around him is appear running the administration.
Maybe if the timing of the passing of the empire is favorable we might have some elections that seem valid maybe?
Is that why its been so quiet? What a Stroke of luck!
Stop getting our hopes up. Evil bastards live a longtime.
Oh he'll for sure be propped up and wheeled around indefinitely, but it's basically confirmed he's getting more frequent TIAs and worse recoveries despite his treatment. Real question is how bad is the next puppet going to be once he croaks.
I don't think there is anyone close to being able to hold onto the MAGA fan base of Trump kicks it. Vance sure can't, Elon is universally hated, as is Stephen Miller. None of Trump's kids has any charisma either.
The next few years would end up being "weekend at Bernie's, Trump edition"
The whole point of everything the administration is doing right now, is to make sure support won't matter. Who needs supporters when the vote is rigged?
They can only rig things so far. There's a reason Congress has a record number of Republicans that have an announced they aren't running again. There is a reason red states are rushing to push gerrymandering to its limits. They expect more elections to be contests.
Yeah, every time I see a headline saying "Trump, 79, ..." I just scroll past it at this point.
They likely have a replacement ready. When you manage to get a group all-in on tribalism juice, they'll come up with cognitive dissonance and narratives all on their own and fall in line no matter what happens.
Don’t do this to me again, don’t give me hope.
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