I know dashboards are super trendy, but I'd love to hear from those who are not using them. I personally use FreshRSS to keep track of as much as possible, along with Uptime Kuma and plain old bookmarks. Perhaps there is a better overview solution, but I also love filtering what I see to not feel overwhelmed. or spammed, by information.

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[–] 127 points 1 year ago (8 children)

service still up = no problem
Can't access service = problem, better ssh in

Simple as

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  • [–] 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If a service falls in a server and no one is around to hear it, does it actually matter?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    i am un-admining

    Pretty much this. I just manually handle stuff when needed. I already work at IT so this feels quite liberating, the last thing I want is to annoy myself more, and the stuff I manage is not Critical™.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If something goes down my kids will be a more immediate and annoying alerting tool than anything I’ve used professionally.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I have just reduced the number of services to the couple I actually use, which I mostly remember exist. I have my own domain, so each service is service.mydomain.tld

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same for me. I use most of my services multiple times a week, so I find out pretty quickly if one isn’t working.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Same here 🙂 Last 3 times, things have broken because zfs raid on usb-connected DAS is not a great idea 😅😅

    Even though Level1Tech said it works 😶🫣 https://youtu.be/GmQdlLCw-5k from 11:11 . Maybe terramaster use bad usb chipset.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not, really. I run docker-compose and it runs. That's it.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Users, monitoring your services for free since internet exists

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Never used a dashboard... I just manage my services on the cli with plain docker commands.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    If I had time to make dashboards, I wouldn’t waste it making dashboards. Most of the stuff I have just works without a lot of attention, and that’s the way I like it.

    I just wait for someone to scream if it breaks.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can you hear the fan? If no, it’s probably fine.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Kubernetes with

    • helm
      • the Kubernetes version of compose files
    • fluxcd
      • manages the helm releases
    • renovate
      • scans my github kubernetes repo for dependencies and creates pull requests for updates
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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'll notice it's down when I try to access it and it doesn't work. If it's not down, there is nothing to manage 🙃

    I have documentation if I need to see everything at a glance. I don't need a live-updating dashboard for that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Set of cron jobs that check services, then send a Matrix message if there's an issue.

    For the cron jobs, I pipe stderr to another script that watches those and does the same.

    If all fails, and internet is unavailable and the router crashes, a Pi will toggle a relay, cutting and resupplying power.

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  • Does dockge count as a dashboard?

    'Cause I use that to quickly check on what's running, what's stopped. Then I do most of my mainenance in a terminal, via SSH to the server.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I use portainer, not sure if that counts as a dashboard?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know how you guys function without some sort of visual. I will forget everything I'm running if it's not on a dashboard of some sort. That's not a maybe - it's guaranteed. Because it's happened before.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Surely, if you forget it's even running, you aren't using it, and it doesn't matter if it stops running? (With a couple of obvious exceptions like automated backups, etc)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It was often the automated things that I completely forgot about. I have ADHD, so if it's not accessible in a reasonable way (where I don't have to always google specific commands to find basic info on my own machine), then it gets lost in the memory hole. I know that a service is running, but would forget what it is.

    These days I have it pretty down-pat. Hardware is labeled, static IPs are set for "critical" VMs and LXCs (because I'm shit at DNS and still trying to get that down), and things are actually somewhat documented in an easy-to-find place.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I tried portainer for a while, but it was almost useless to me, as I'd always end up in the command line anyway. So I dropped that and any other dashboard idea.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    dokploy.com

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    https://charity.wtf/2021/08/09/notes-on-the-perfidy-of-dashboards/

    Graphs and stuff might be useful for doing capacity planning or observing some trends, but most likely you don't need either.

    If you want to know when something is down (and you might not need to know), set up alerts. (And do it well, you should only receive "actionable" alerts. And after setting alerts, you should work on reducing how many actionable things you have to do.)

    (I did set up Nagios to send graphs to Clickhouse, plotted by Grafana. But mostly because I wanted to learn a few things and... I was curious about network latencies and wanted to plan storage a bit long term. But I could live perfectly without those.)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    FreshRSS to keep track of as much as possible, along with Uptime Kuma and plain old bookmarks

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I just use Homepage as a bookmark/landing page so I remember what containers/services I have up and running so that I don't need to check via terminal/portainer. Portainer/docker-compose files for managing services and that's pretty much it. If I was using a dashboard I feel like I'd be wasting more time on an already time consuming hobby.

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  • I monitor everything with xymon, I get emails when there's a problem. Works like a charm.

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  • Unraid has a table of the docker containers.

    I don't need metrics or stats. I wouldn't look at, or care about them anyway. Dashboards feel like tech enthusiast crap. Tech and resources for the sake of having tech. My services are to solve a problem, not look at metrics of.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I just simply dont monitor most things. I do have a few things such as low disk space and failed backups. They are just simple shell scripts that send me an ntfy message when there is a problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Bookmarks for linking to services. Grafana for graphs that I only look at if I am curious or looking into when a problem arises. I could use Uptime Kuma if I wanted a simpler solution or notifications.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I use my own dashboard as a links page, nagios to monitor all the running servers and service's. Nagios will post to pushover if there's an issue.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    https://github.com/nicolargo/glances

    I have a dashboard as well (Homepage), but this is a nice look at system resource usage and what's running, at a glance.

    Uptime-kuma emails me when services or critical LAN devices are unreachable for whatever reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Uptime Kuma monitoring anything I care about and notifying me via Matrix, or notifying me via email if it's Matrix that's down.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I call an api in technitium to register dns for all services when they are instantiated, and route everything through an nginx reverse proxy - Sonarr.internal.tld for example

    I don’t use any kind of monitoring Or dashboards

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I do have Dashboards in Grafana, but I only use them to look something up. I have Prometheus Alertmanager connected to a Matrix bot that sends me messages when something looks wrong.

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    I don't see how people can go without using dashboards. Considering I'm in America, I use them just about any time I go anywhere, as nearly all automobiles have them.

    Real answer: I just have a script that updates everything. I run it manually when stuff needs updating. If a service goes down, I notice when it's not accessible.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*
    docker stats
    

    With that command, I get all the stats I need, no dashboard required.

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