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[–] 50 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Absolutely true! I wish people would just not ruin other people's happiness. It's really not that difficult!

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've just stopped telling my friends anything recently. it's either met with zero response, or a 1 word answer. no point in feeling good about personal things around them when it's just stifled quickly.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh dayum, that is really aweful to hear :/
    I'm sorry they kind of suck in that area. Do you wanna share something that made you happy that they just didn't get? Because I would love to hear about something that made you happy (even if only something small or simple)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    This is a weird coincidence. I just finished watching Lizzie McGuire yesterday and the last episode was precisely about not letting snobs ruin your enjoyment of something. She and her mates went to watch a live recording of a toddler show and got made fun of by Kate.

    Yes, I'm a middle aged woman who likes re-watching shows from when I was younger. Anyone doesn't like that, that's a them problem. I could have done with a mate like Gordo as a kid though. He's very A Team friendly.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Dude tell me about it. I had a girl tell me she was exited about the tswift engagement and I just went full asshole mode for some reason and was like "oh you gonna go to their wedding? Big friends with Taylor?" ... Idk why I decided to be a jerk but ... Yeah I still feel low-key guilty about that but she's said/done plenty worse so I probably should let that shit go.

    Anyways, yeah I guess I'm saying sometimes I think people may not be totally aware in the moment of their dickishness so learn from me and just STFU if someone is happy for some dumb shit.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Did you apologize to her? Sounds like you were taking some of your frustration out on her and that's probably not fair.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yes, I'm not that big of a dick. My apology led to her sharing some silly shit she's said to her buddies that were akin to my slip up.

    It's not like I punched her in the face and spit on her lol, if I had couched it better it would have probably just been funny but I just went hella sarcastic and dick mode.

    In context she had said she got really good news then showed me the announcement on her phone so I was like expecting some actually good news for her not some stupid celebrity tabloid shit that's ultimately meaningless.

    Idk I know we all need our bread and circuses, I'm wrapped up in plenty of equally inane and pointless crap same as everyone else - sometimes I just am bad at being a human. I'm not very good at socializing in general, it's something I've had to learn and try to study and be good at still - definitely does not come naturally to me. I've gotten pretty good at pretending, I'm a decent "professional people person" when I turn my human mask part of my brain on since reading people is something I've had to focus on because I can't just socialize like a human being normally does.

    But yeah that's a very long way of saying, yes I'm not that mean of a guy.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Happened to me way too often as a kid (from other kids, never my family), and I've only just now begun to realize it's why I feel such embarrassment if I ever allow myself to get excited/show excitement. God forbid I ever let myself get animated, I end up laying in bed every night for literal weeks afterwards replaying it through some fucked up filter that just gets worse and worse until I'm convinced I've humiliated myself irrevocably, and I stop interacting with other humans for a long time. The only places I can allow myself to be excited/animated are online and with my family.

    Recently went to visit a friend and ended up getting positively hyped while helping one of his friends build a rube goldberg machine. Friend I went to visit ended up having a medical episode, and mentioned in his drugged up state that he was a little jealous of how quickly I and his friend hit it off, and I still haven't recovered. Me and rube goldberg machine guy really clicked, but I haven't been able to bring myself to even text the guy because I can't get past the embarrassment of it. Friend I visited said it was like watching Romeo and Juliet meet.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To live is to cringe. There really is no antidote.

    What happened to, um... JoCat? So many people were mad about the girls animation that they bullied him off the internet for a bit, and only after he was gone were they like "I agree with the cartoon, I just don't like people knowing that about me."

    If you don't mind me asking, what do you find embarrassing about building a sick-ass fuckin' rube goldberg machine? I really can't imagine somebody doing that without joy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Building the machine wasn't embarrassing, getting all animated and excited around other humans was embarrassing. I know it isn't. I know that isn't normal. I don't know why I have that reaction later on, other than when I was a kid other kids made fun of me whenever I did. Like, if I ever got excited and hyper or something other kids would laugh and make comments about I was fat and it I moved around I'd jiggle. Shit like that. It made me end up with basically the mindset that I need to be stoic all the fucking time unless I'm very close to someone. The friend I visited has been one of my best for 20 years (online/phone), and his friend and I clicked so fast that my barriers sort of dropped unexpectedly, and I ended up getting really excited and animated. Basically I leave situations like that feeling like I've made a fool of myself. A fat, ugly fool.

    Our brains suck sometimes

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  • Hm. Yeah, that's a deep well to climb out of.

    Well, I'm sure you know there's no getting out of this prison without banging at the walls, right? :p I only learned to sing by challenging myself to be uncomfortable.

    Do you find that it's easier if you talk to people later and they're like "no, I didn't think anything was weird; it was a joy to be around you!" or is it like a "your brain wouldn't believe them anyway" kind of thing?

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  • [–] 111 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    This is absolutely too general of a blanket statement. Piss all over the joy of fascists, that makes you a good person.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm not sure fascists feel joy. I think they can only feel anger and hatred. Maybe malicious schadenfreude at best.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They sure sound giddy when they’re infringing on our rights.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    They’re brainwashed and have twisted views on most things, including what joy feels like.

    Some people are sociopaths and genuinely can’t feel joy. Put those people in positions of influence (like we have), and the meaning of joy takes on the twisted meaning ascribed by mob mentality.

    That’s what we need to fix. The reason we’ve been successful as a species for hundreds of thousands of years is because we’re a highly cooperative species who takes care of each other. We’re strong together.

    Sociopaths being in charge ruins that. They’re less than 5% of the population, by the way. We don’t need to let them do this to us.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, this is a worthless platitude. I wish this stuff wasn't so mindlessly upvoted.

    It's important to respect that joy can be derived from different sources, but when a third of America is reveling in the misery of others, there are bigger fish to dry than protecting everyone's feelings equally.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Not to cool your jets, but I've met worse types of persons

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Part of growing independence is to develop some internal approval that you will enjoy your life without asking permission of others for you to go be you. You can and will seek out supportive people who will be attracted to your ideas. This is what having a vision is. You see it and that is what is important.

    And Lots of other people have their own shit going on. So if they aren’t going out of their way to be cheerleaders: do not take it personally. They might come around later when they see what you got going on. They might not. But hey that’s ok. They are on their own trail. They are allowed this space.

    That said if someone is going out of their way to bully you: do not give them permission to make you feel like shit. Their opinion of you is none of your business.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Very well put.

    It took me a loooong time to realize what I was doing and to get out of it.

    This year I have gone harder than ever into my hobbies, and I have intentionally done every single bit myself without even consulting the people I usually would have had helping in the past.

    The "pros" list covers basically everything from the physical outcomes of the project to the positive effects on me throughout.

    The only negative is maybe that it's going slower than it would if I had some judgy relatives around, but that's not much of a negative in reality. Hobbies don't need to have deadlines.

    And I dare say that the boost in confidence from the process has bled over into other areas of my personal and professional life. And I don't mean in a Linkedin Lunatics kind of way where I've rediscovered my ambition. Lol no, now I have the confidence to pursue the happiness and fulfillment I want to find in life.

    Self confidence is a weird thing.

    It's one thing to know and believe that you're intelligent and that you've done more research into the subject than the downers around you. But when you have a lifetime of issues dealing with people thanks to undiagnosed ADHD (insert meme "if you get good grades they let you raw dog ADHD your whole life") then impostor syndrome is just your starting point.

    But once you do something significant on your own and see the consistently great results, the confidence shifts from being something you believe "on paper" in your mind to being something you feel in your bones and know to be true in a deeper way.

    Or at least that's how it worked for me during this specific period of my life. Relationships are a big deal for our psyches so it may turn out that you need to lean into healthy relationships rather than lean out of mildly toxic ones.

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It is pretty impressive. It's one step closer to making something like a holodeck where you can generate a virtual world on demand.

    That being said the companies that are pushing it and using it aren't being very ethical about it

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's interesting how in Star Trek they had a holodeck full of completely believable visuals, amazing generated sound, "hard light" making believable surfaces, characters who were extremely realistic, etc. But, the only holodeck character to ever be considered possibly sentient was Moriarty, and it required that they ask for a character capable of outwitting Data. Meanwhile, the sentient "computer" in the series was Data, who had a lot of quirky mannerisms that made it obvious he wasn't at all human, despite really wanting to be.

    In the real world, Silicon Valley is convinced that because GenAI can make something that can mimic a human they think they're weeks or days away from AGI which will lead immediately to ASI. Meanwhile, nobody in Star Trek thought that holodeck tech was a profitable area of research for true AI. I think I trust the Star Trek writers more than Silicon Valley on this one.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Eh, I wouldn't read too much into that angle. The computer and holodeck were pretty much deus ex machinas for Star Trek, written to do as much or as little as the plot required. They could just handwave the computer creating a super intelligent AI because Data requested it, or say the holodeck is capable of simulating bleeding edge warp core innovation (though the crew still had to tweak parameters and often were able to suceed "live" after failing many times guided by the computer because human intuition trumps all).

    Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones, even though they did put a lot of effort into making it a hard tech world rather than a soft tech one. But when delving into unknown technology, eventually you need to use some soft tech that just works without any real world explanation. And any AI- or computer-related stuff fell into that "soft tech surrounded by hard tech" category.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones,

    This is basically a philosophical question though. Can you achieve artificial intelligence by imitating it closely enough. GenAI imitates intelligence, and a lot of the Silicon Valley techbros think that it's going to lead to actual intelligence.

    The philosophy of Star Trek seems to be no. For them there was a fundamental difference in how an artificial brain would work so that you couldn't get there with just a powerful computer. That's why Data had a "positronic net" and not just a powerful version of the isolinear circuits they had in the normal computers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The LLM, I kinda get, you can almost picture training a word predictor.

    Working code with comments is pretty mindblowing even if it's not better than a professional.

    But diffusion... that's BLACK MOTHERFUCKING MAGIC.

    Here's a picture of me, Here's a picrture of me with a hat. the vector between the two is hat. Now put a hat on that squirrel... works...

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    If they could deliver on one-hundredth of that, it will be truly amazing.

    They can't be generating a straight up video and that would be way too slow.

    They said that they're not using pre-built worlds, so they're not pre-generating an entire world that you can run around in, which would still be fucking great.

    I wonder if they're dynamically creating procedural world generation. then dynamically creating occasional assets as you demand.

    Seems like it would be too slow and power hungry to do it any other way.

    At some point we're going to get some crazy amazing games out of this.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I catch myself doing this sometimes. I don't mean to belittle anyone's excitement — I just tend to default to responding way too analytically/critically. It's a trait of mine that I despise, and I'm trying to be more aware of it so that I can prevent it from happening.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can someone send this to my parents and everyone I've ever dated?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Lots of people around me are excited for a racist march organised by flag-shagging, far-right knuckle-dragger Tommy Robinson.

    So let's call it a guideline rather than a rule.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If I'm excited about something, I am very selective of who I share my excitement with. The comments here verifies that choice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Aye, I think that was one of the hardest things to accept as I moved from kid to teenager to adult. There are going to be people who wouldn't care if you were just elected the king/queen of prom, or accepted to med school at 18, or discovered a new form of life on the moon. Find the ones who enjoy your happiness and be happy for theirs.

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  • Well I was excited about making them feel stupid for liking something and you just make me feel stupid for being excited for something... asshole.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What if I am excited about making people feel stupid?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    /genuine am i missing something or are a lot of people taking the hyperbole a little too seriously?? like I agree but god forbid someone uses hyperbole??

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lemmy users famously have an inability to comprehend figures of speech

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So true. Being judgemental is stupid and old fashioned in the worst way. If it’s not hurting people, why judge it? Let people live, ffs.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If they leave me alone about it after I politely express my disinterest I will, if not I'll take it as asking for my full opinion on the subject and that will be brutally honest.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is someone shoving beliefs at you? Which beliefs and where? That might be very rude, depending on the context.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It’s not as dramatic as that. Don’t talk to me about sports, religion, or whatever pop culture you’re into. Enjoy them for yourself by yourself. Online I can choose to engage or not, in public I’m way more limited.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    that kid that killed animals for fun when I was in high school and he killed a bunch of other students pets and they all got in trouble for beating him up,

    coal rollers and close shave swervers in the lunch room at work,

    guys bragging about sexual harassment and assault,

    maga,

    etc..

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also, sometimes magical thinking can be trouble. Like, someone's excited about how their health issues are going to be cured with the right essential oils. Sometimes you need to burst that bubble so that they will actually get real medical help.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This should be up voted more. These kinds of posts invoke circle jerking. I was struggling to think of examples of weird topics but you gave a more comprehensive list.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I totally understand the desire to cut someone down who's doing something destructive or counter to the norm in an extreme way but equally I don't think it's necessarily constructive. I can disagree with someone and express that without necessarily making them feel dumb.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This statement captures a huge part of the shitty, negativity first, punching down, and adversarial nature of the conservative white american culture that I was born into.

    It is so incredibly pervasive that I think most don't even realize they're doing it. Even thinking of relatives who I have totally good personal relationships with -- I can hang out with them any time, but I am not going to sit around in the living room with everybody because within minutes it turns into non-stop complaining about entire other person on the planet.

    It's almost like that "Darmok" episode of star trek, except on this conservative planet the locals only speak in the form of complaints.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Welcome to Germany, a country of 80 million worst types of people.

    She's right. That said, constructive criticism is very important as well sometimes, and it can be tricky to navigate when to be positively supportive and when to be critically supportive

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, I dunno if I'd support someone being like "Yay, meth!"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Compared my buddies collection of Funko vinyl POP figures to Beanie Babies...crap of self realization.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    First time I bought a new car I was pretty excited. It was nothing special, a Vauxhall Astra. But it was mine, it was brand new, and I worked hard to earn the money to pay for it. I go round to my friends house, all charged up with excitement of new car day. I say "You wanna come out an see it?" and he looks at me like Im an asshole and says "Not really. I've seen a car before.". And he was serious too.

    There was a bunch of other shit like this, and to this day he wonders why I stopped being his friend.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • Nope. He was just a dick. He would later go on to brag about how he had two girls coming over later, and that he was going to spike their drinks with E in the hopes of getting a threesome. He also started to become that guy who threatens to beat up anyone and everyone who disagrees with him.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Eh, I feel that card comment. I'm on vacation, I want to do something fun! I just had to deal with a family reunion where they wanted to play mexican train. Like, come on, how the fuck is dominoes fun? Even monopoly has more strategy. Cards, depending on the game, could have a little more depth and skill, like ers, but if you were suggesting war I kinda am with your friend here.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I wanna know how so many people here know so many others in their lives that legitimately get excited about things like racism and shit. That's the surprising thing to me in these comments

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe not many but an extended part of my family disowned a daughter because she is "gay". Found that out just last week. So I suspect they get excited about this things just maybe not in the way most people think about getting excited

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is she OK? Capable of self-sufficiency and in a good place mentally?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I do not know, I don't typically associate with that part of my family because of shitty behavior like this. I think she is, she went to college and has a good job, at least that's the last I heard until they stopped talking about her. Now I know why they stopped taking about her

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    The obvious exception to this is cases of addiction or poor life decisions.

    Like if you collect/play Pokemon or whatever as a hobby and are excited to get a rare card, that's great and I'm happy for you.

    If you're underwater on your mortgage and your basement is full of beanie-babies - that you're sure will make you rich in the future - but you just won a bid of $1000 for one rare beanie on eBay... yeah I'm not gonna be happy for you I'm gonna recommend talking to a professional

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  • No, no. This is one where offense can easily be intended.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Autistics everywhere furiously clicking the upvote button.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The worst people in the world furiously drawing strawmen...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm curious to understand this comment, if you would sacrifice some time to explain what you mean?

    Or even more interesting would be to know what you think I meant with my comment.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As I was scrolling down the comments, all I could see was comments using strawman arguments for why the meme is wrong. Really just pointing out the juxtaposition of reactions to meme. Wasnt saying you were wrong, more just completing the thought... as it were.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a nice example of problems with typed conversations. I was trying to interpret your post and just failed to, and i guess i could have writte my first comment a bit less open to interpretation.

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