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[–] 108 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 84 points 1 year ago

    America will do literally anything to ignore gun control and mental health.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    These things are going to get hacked and start shooting kids. Wtf are these idiots thinking.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Probably "this is a completely untapped market for our killbots!"

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "It's a bit like that movie The Matrix, where the agent can jump into the nearest person and immediately be good to go. We're a little bit like that—but we're the good guys,"

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Article says there's a pepper ball launcher and a glass hammer, so this thing is mainly for surveillance and mild distractions, which is much better than I was prepared to read.

    "Currently, an officer's job is to run toward gunfire, alone, with no support or intel—basically a standoff. With our drones, they're not alone; they know what the suspect looks like, what they're doing, and we take point around every corner.

    "We usually find the shooter before they do and keep them occupied. Every officer who's seen this live has said they want it."

    If this actually encourages them to do their jobs, great. If this is just a kickback to private industry and further militarizing schools while police still sit cowering, than I know where they can dock those drones...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's a foot in the door because of that attitude. No one jumps straight to Gatling guns on drones at the elementary school they might however do pepper ball, then tazer, then hard markers, rubber bullets, actual bullets.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    "Currently, an officer's job is to run toward gunfire, alone, with no support or Intel"

    That's a lie, they don't run toward gunfire at all. And they'll wait until they have at least three departments of officers before doing anything.

    If they want to break glass as a distraction they can do that already, they don't need a drone. And their plan to break glass will startle an already on edge and unstable shooter, instead of using tactics to de-esecalate the situation. Also, isn't this what swat is for? They have no qualms about flashbanging babies in cribs but when it comes to an actual situation all of a sudden they need drones so no cops are in any iota of danger.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Fucking hilarious quote here:

    "It's a bit like that movie The Matrix, where the agent can jump into the nearest person and immediately be good to go. We're a little bit like that—but we're the good guys," he added.

    Oh yeah so it's kinda like the terrifying dystopian surveillance nightmare where people are oppressed at all times by an omnipresent, invincible, untouchable outer force that compels them to unquestionably follow the path laid out for them in life by their masters. But like, in a good way!

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    It is funny how americans think that more guns will prevent gun violence. Then again, they think that more pills will prevent drug problem.

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  • [–] 153 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    This is such a tricky subject.
    You could go with a more strict gun regulations. Coupled with more help for vulnerable people. And free mental healthcare.
    Or.
    MUTHERFUDGING DRONES, bitches.

    It's such a tricky subject. So tricky.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    This isn't tik tok you can say Motherfucking.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In fact I'd prefer if people just used the actual cuss words. Self-censoring is such a bullshit. Social media is a plague on our species.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I need more things to have a block censorship option. Like streaming music services often have a ‘block explicit’ option. I want a ‘block censored’ option.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    YouTube has a thing where if you're on data and not wifi, they will not let you watch explicit videos even if you're signed into your account, which may or may not be old enough to drink, itself.

    You have to do a thing in your phone's connection settings and hook it to a specific DNS (like "dns.adguard.com", which allows you to play mobile games while connected to a network without any ads)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    man I made an account just to go troll idiots and holy shit is their moderation ever so fucking bad

    people can say "I would drive over them" about people crossing a bridge, but if you say, "I'd drive over you tbh", nope, not okay.

    not to mention the dumb automatic word filters regardless of context

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    do we have to have this same argument every godsdamned thread?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You could go with a more strict gun regulations. Coupled with more help for vulnerable people. And free mental healthcare.

    I'm skeptical any of this would be more than a bandaid solution, a large part of the problem has got to be how highschool in the US is just inherently a miserably dehumanizing experience.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Do not accept perfection as an enemy of progress!

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    If "progress" here means drugging students to tolerate their circumstances, or holding the threat of pepper spray drones over them (doubt this will stay limited to active shooter scenarios), I think it might be progress in the wrong direction.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure they meant that the gun regulation, help and free healthcare would be progress, not so much the drugs and the drones.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I guess that makes sense. It just frustrates me that the scope of the discussion is all solutions that would not help directly with any problems potentially murderously suicidal teens have in their lives, the growth of those problems which you might imagine is the reason this has become a trend, but instead basically just preventing them from responding destructively.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The drones, stored in secure boxes on campus, can be deployed within five seconds of silent panic buttons being activated. The devices—operated remotely by a team in Texas—provide constant live video feeds to first responders and, in some cases, fire nonlethal projectiles to delay or incapacitate an assailant.

    To me, these aren't a bad idea. Immediate response and non-ISH-lethal. They are simply the progression of enforcement technology.

    What they are not, is a solution to school shootings. They are not even a bandaid. Some people (law makers) just don't seem to know what "prevention" means.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You said

    To me, these aren’t a bad idea.

    and yet you also said

    The devices—operated remotely by a team in Texas

    in the very same post.

    I wouldn't want some bored trigger happy gun nutjob from Texas playing shoot the bad guys with pepper spray on a games console where my kids and their multi ethnic friends are the NPCs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's a fair assessment. I'm guessing it's that way because that's where the company that operates this is. Which, now that I think about it, probably is a poor way to manage the whole program.

    So I'll post-edit to say: "with local pilot and oversight"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    stored in secure boxes on campus, can be deployed within five seconds of silent panic buttons being activated

    So much about that sentence doesn't make sense though...

    "secure boxes" but "a button can open them" also "silent panic" with "drones out within 5 seconds"

    In any event, the 'nonlethal' is generally considered a bad descriptor versus 'less than lethal', unless they are talking about something merely mildly annoying rather than the usual things like rubber or bag rounds.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fantastic. Remote controlled school shootings.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    Too many guns leads to weekly school shootings.

    US: We need more guns!

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How long before one of these shoots a regular kid?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Yeah so we tried nothing and nothing worked!

    Then we tried arming the teachers but they accidentally shot themselves and the students!

    So now we're trying armed drones with AI doing the triggering because there just ain't any other solution to this problem!

    I mean the entire world has this problem, every day we read about multiple countries facing multiple school shootings per day, every single day, and nobody found any solution ever!

    So AI killer drones are the only way to move education forward, there is no other solution available Right?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    i'm not sure these are AI drones, these might be remote sniper drones. which is still terrifying as fuck, considering how easy it is to find default logins for all the ALPRs everywhere and then see how many have not been changed [note for legal reasons i am not encouraging you to do this, definitely not without a good trusted VPN]

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There are sites that will literally just connect you to random cameras all over the world that are hooked up to the internet with no security except obscurity and hope. Wouldn't be surprised if these drones start showing up on them.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The fuck guys…you’ll try everything but actually fixing the problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    No wait, they got thought listening devices! What if they set them up in schools to listen to everyone's thoughts! Everyone would be safe because you can listen to all teenager's thoughts!

    OK let's start...listening to the guy over there..... Wow! Jessica has tits! .....hmmm okay moving on to another kid's thoughts...

    Oh shit, nevermind! Nevermind!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    because fixing a problem in the United States won't line anyones pockets with dollar bills.

    Someone saw a problem, figured HOW to financially gain from said problem, not solve the problem in order to financially gain from it. So some company has scored a contract to patrol schools with drones in order to "prevent" school shootings and we know they won't and the US tax payer will pay for it.

    Problems in the United States are never fixed, they're handled.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    America, just throw more guns at the problem!

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I feel like someone is going to hack one of these and then do a school shooting

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    You bet your ass. You think with Big Balls storing millions of people's data on unsecure servers and Las Vegas being slammed with a hack that would make Hollywood claim is unrealistic means there will be script kiddies ready with pre-made hacks that would make them kill people. This is cyberpunk 2077 level shit.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    next year

    armed drone hacked by deranged lunatic kills 50 kids and 10 teachers

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Or, armed drone kills kid holding a banana as a gun

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Child Holding Gun Shaped Object Struck By Bullets Fired From Police Drone

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Idk fired is still too much culpability, how about 'Struck by bullets in incident involving police drone'

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Next headline reads "armed drones were hacked and lead to worst systematic school shooting in history"

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I think we know what the next step is here. Mass shooters start using armed drones.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a drone is a good guy with a drone.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You know how most school shootings can be stopped in the US? Safe storage laws. Most of the time the shooter is an underage kid who got access to their parents' guns and went to shoot up the school. Obviously it wouldn't stop shit like Uvalde and Sandy Hook. But it would still stop a fuckload of smaller shootings we don't hear about because they are background noise at this point.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    How would you enforce such a law? Sounds like all they would do would be to allow you to prosecute people after the fact.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yes, and when people realize it is being enforced they will do it more.

    Also add the cavet that if a gun is stolen and misused by a member of the household, they would be liable for whatever actions were taken. This putting them on the hook for the shooting, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Honestly I'm not sure about that. Most people don't want their kids to be murderers in the first place, yet here we are. They never think their kid would do it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's wishful thinking. We've seen time and time again that parents are (willfully) ignorant about their kids mental health issues and will look their other way while their precious sketching hallways and figures out the choke points.

    You're responsible for the people your gun kills is a pretty simple fix and would probably lead to lots of people buying gun safes overnight.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Safe storage laws, licenses and responsibility for anything that happens with your gun. No public carry laws. Removal of gun owning rights for people that commit violent or drug related crime. These are like the bare minimum needed to have a society with guns.

    Police vists for people acting unhinged online and check they dont have any illegal weapons. Different classes of licenses with increased scruity.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    As always, the American answer is more guns!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I get more and more grateful to be born in Europe. The US is a real life satire fever dream at this point.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Innocent children will die to trigger happy drone cops. It's going to be a remote controlled Uvalde.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    My gut says when you have to say you are "the good guy" you are in fact "the bad guy."

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