Oddly, you have to actually assert that right in many jurisdictions. In the US, say something like "I plead the fifth" or "I choose to remain silent" and assert your right to an attorney, and shut up until the attorney comes and only speak at the discretion of the attorney. Just staying silent opens you up to attempted manipulation, whereas they must provide an attorney if requested and the attorney may have options to strike some of the manipulation while you wait for the attorney.
post
Don’t talk to the cops. Say you want a lawyer and will remain silent. They are not your friend. They have zero interest in “your side” of the story and only wish to gather info to arrest you. Once you’re arrested you are someone else’s problem and they don’t care.
In case you didn’t see it. DONT’T TALK TO COPS.
It should be added that, "Once a suspect requests a lawyer, police are generally required to stop questioning until an attorney is present. The Supreme Court case Edwards v. Arizona further strengthened this rule, holding that any attempt by law enforcement to continue questioning without an attorney present violates the suspect’s rights."
Once you ask for a lawyer questioning is 'suppose' to stop. If you're still alone and they keep prying. That's only more cause for concern.
I think if you shoot someone it might be worthwhile to at least give a brief non-incriminating statement to the officers on the scene so that they don't put you in jail right away. this is the only exception I can think of
source https://youtu.be/LiHIvBqGvGo
importantly, you're pointing out witnesses and evidence before they disappear
The answer is that most people have never been in a police interrogation and they think they can talk their way out of it if they just explain themselves enough.
It's panic thinking. And once you pop you don't stop.
If you're in a police interrogation room you have to assume and internally accept that you're getting charged with something, and not try to talk your way out of it.
Everyone is the hero of their own story. This implies that every person thinks they're doing the right thing.
So if they've been accused of a crime, there must be some misunderstanding. If I explain what happened they'll let me out because I didn't do anything wrong.
It's not the only reason people talk, but it's a big one.
Remember, the line is: " you have the right to remain silent, anything you say, can and will be used against you".
i mean sometimes i know i'm a big dumb idiot, it's pretty obvious when we were at the parade and i sat on my chair and it exploded into fifteen pieces right in front of the police officer and he said "you can't park there, mate" as i was waddling to my feet, there were no heroes
Cops are like Batman. They lie about literally fucking everything. He even sau0id so and they have too. "Literally" was literal. Guns aren't porn but if you told them they can be, they won't care because they already have way too much money.
Heath Ledger was the Hero. Money is the root of all evil. He burnt it and THAT is a crime? Cops are LITERALLY EVIL. Evil isn't even real.
So then, obviously, Cops aren't real. So making them vanish isn't murder. Ask Robert Heinlein for the how to.
There's also the supreme court ruling a bit ago that weakened the right. Changed it from something you can simply do to something you need to invoke.
Simply remaining silent does not invoke your right to remain silent, you must state that you wish to not speak. This applies before you're read your rights and arrested. So without ever being told your rights or that you can leave at any time, silently refusing to answer questions can be used as evidence against you. Look nervous when the police ask if shell casings found at a murder scene would match a gun you own? That can be used as evidence of guilt, along with your choice not to answer the question.
Coupled with police being able to lie to you more than a lot of people believe, it's possible to remain silent, say "I should probably have a lawyer for this" (note how that's not actually a request for legal counsel, just an observation), and for the police to imply that this has stopped the interrogation ("alright, I'll go do the paperwork. I'll send someone in to sit with you, can't leave people unsupervised").
A lot of people have difficulty not chatting with someone who's been presented to them as a neutral party, particularly if they think there's no harm to it.
People try and talk their way out of it and dig a deeper hole. For example, what I imagined happening with that Briton arrested for carrying a garden trowel:
"But that tool is sharp, right?"
"A bit"
"If someone attacked you, would you stab them with it?"
"Probably"
"You've just admitted to carrying an offensive weapon. Accept this caution or we'll escalate this further"
My first thought would be to just act stupid in that specific situation and straight up lie out of my ass:
"But that tool is sharp, right?"
"Nope"
"If someone attacked you, would you stab them with it?"
"Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?"
Of course, this also has a high likelihood of backfiring. So just stfu with cops.
I would start panicking as soon as they ask me to write down my name.
Well, technically speaking you can talk your way out of it, it's just that talking your way out of it means speaking one sentence and one sentence only "I'm exercising my right to a lawyer and to remain silent" over and over again
Depends, if you live in an authoritarian country (as in actual dictatorships, the USA doesn't count, not yet at least), you do not have the right to remain silent, so in that case, you kinda have to talk your way out of it or else you are automatically assumed guilty.
People that think that police is a public service will try to convince cops to help them. It's not, ACAB is not an insult, its a warning
I watch this video every time it pops up or randomly when I think of it. Great video
I've watched this vid a few times but did they put like a speed up of .5 on there or am I getting old? I seriously felt like I was trying to track an auctioneer. My shit aside, always a good watch! Thanks for posting!
because criminals tend to be not that smart, and police (in civilized countries at least) are very well trained in interview techniques.
This is the key thing many criminals fail to understand. The fact Miranda rights exist and the officer just had the balls to read them to you and still wants to engage, should be a red flag as to just how much of a disadvantage you are at in the impending battle of wits.
IDK. On the one hand, the dude is likely a psychopath. On the other, if you actually are trying to exercise your right to remain silent, then you pretty much have to look like a complete psychopath during an interrogation. If the cops accuse you of a horrible crime, the natural response is to get emotional and start vehemently defending yourself. Their whole interrogation strategy is to get you worked up, to break down your defenses, and get you to admit or provide evidence to a crime you may or may not have committed. Police interrogators are masters of emotional manipulation.
The only way I can see to get through that is to adopt a grey rock strategy. Just realize that they're trying to get to you. Disconnect the emotional parts of your brain. Let the words of the cops pass over you unperturbed and simply remain calm, disinterested, and dispassionate. Adopt a soul of ice and refuse to engage with them at all emotionally. This guy made the mistake of talking to them at all. He should have remained dispassionate but also just refused to answer in any form.
I just can't think of a way to truly remain silent without making yourself look like a psychopath. The natural response by an innocent person to being accused of dismembering someone would be rage, fear, and desperate indignation. But doing so could incriminate them. But if an innocent person is remaining silent, they would by necessity just have to sit there completely uncaring when accused of the most horrible crimes. There's just no way to exercise your rights without seeming completely insane. And cops use that fact to extract evidence from people.
There's just no way to exercise your rights without seeming completely insane.
This guy's silence is not why he seems creepy. It's his body language, his mannerisms.
JCS has another video about... I forget. They call him an anti-hero a lot. The anti-hero definitely talks too much, but he exercises his right plenty and mostly just seems like a tragic, lovable doofus.
Zen meditation teaches us we can find inner peace no matter the situation
I actually constantly think of the scene from Street Fighter where the fat guy is being tortured ineffectively, and the one guy says "Next time your mind leaves, tell it to bring back pizza."
The other line that lives rent free in my head is "Quick, change the channel!"
I mean, he was the VP for his university's Federalist Society chapter. (He murdered the president of it.)
I always talk to the cops.
"So, interrogate here often?"
"That uniform really makes your eyes pop!"
"Wanna go to the cells, big guy?"
"I will confess if you can make me scream."
Our right to shut the fuck up is almost as important as the 1st right. We should use it more often.
My advice to my son has always been: if you’re arrested for any reason, whether you did the thing or not, you become a Pokémon named ‘lawyer’.
This is better advice than staying silent (at least in the US). If you stay silent, then police can keep questioning you for as long as you're silent and they want to. When you say you want a lawyer, then they're required to stop questioning you.
In other words, the act of remaining silent is not enough to invoke your right to silence. You need to break your silence in order to invoke your right to silence
You need to specificly say "I want to speak with my lawyer", cops in the usa have been able to deny someone saying something like 'dont I get to speak to a lawyer' isnt specific enough
It took me a while! "Lawyer....", "law.....yer..." "laaaawyir".
No matter the question: ‘lawyi… lawyi… lawyer!’
Just be careful not to evolve into a LawyerDawg
For anyone who doesn't get this, a person wanted to envoke their right to an attorney and asked for his "lawyer dawg." The police maliciously interpreted this as asking for a lawyer dog, which you have no right to, and the court agreed that that was a reasonable assumption and that the guy did not envoke his right to an attorney, so they did nothing wrong by not providing one.
That's not at all what happened. He spoke to detectives, and even allowed them to search his apartment to look for the victim (a woman he was falsely claiming he was friends with).
He was found guilty of her murder, and will be eligible for parole in 2041:
The judge also dismissed additional charges discovered during the investigation, including one count of burglary and 30 counts of sexual exploitation of children
Hey what the fuck
Surely someone wouldn’t just go on 4chan and lie
When he goes on parole he can wait one year and finally play Battlefield 2042.
...the right to remain silent is literal. Don't do propaganda for cops and prosecutors. You can be completely silent; it is your right to, and you should exercise it (or reply "no comment", but literal silence falls under the right to remain silent too).
Actually, there was a Supreme Court case about this. If you just sit there and say nothing after they give you your Miranda rights, they can make assumptions about things or simply continue for as long as they want. The case concluded with- you must declare that you understand your rights in some way and that you are invoking that right.
He didn't win though
I am familiar with the case in this picture. He hacked up a fellow college student and placed her body parts in a hobo. Both were graduating law school at the time. He is serving LWOP.
I'm sorry, "in a hobo"? I have literally never been more afraid to ask if this is a typo...
No typo. (Hobo as in garbage cart) It literally happened. They were classmates and lived in same apartment complex. He had been stalking her.
all 62 comments