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[–] 298 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Back in my day console prices would go down after being on the market for a few years

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Back in your day needless tarriffs weren't a thing.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Um, Aktuky...

    President Reagan decided Friday to impose punitive 100% tariffs on a wide variety of goods produced by Japanese electronic giants in retaliation for Tokyo’s failure to abide by the semiconductor trade agreement between the two nations.

    In approving a recommendation Thursday by the Administration’s top economic officials, the White House decided to put the tariffs into effect about April 17, less than two weeks before Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone is scheduled to begin a visit to the United States aimed at easing trade frictions.

    The tariffs will be targeted to bring in as much as $300 million and designed to punish such firms as NEC Corp., Hitachi Ltd., Fujitsu Ltd., Toshiba Corp. and Oki Corp. by either pricing some of their goods out of the American market or by forcing them to accept substantial losses on U.S. sales.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Was that not a measured response to a failure to abide by an established agreement?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Depends on who is telling the story.

    Japan / Korea were early instances of US industrial outsourcing. The consequences of the project was an economic boom during late 70s/early 80s in both countries, such that American politicians feared Japan and Korea would return to the world stage as independent regional powers. Reagan's tariffs, the subsequent opening of Japanese import markets, and the further industrial outsourcing to China, the Philippines, and the rest of the South Pacific labor markets effectively clipped the wings of the Japanese/Korean wage laborer.

    You could argue this was part of the "agreement" between Eastern Zaibatsu executives and Western investment banks. But I'd hardly call it a "measured response". I certainly wouldn't call it a policy that served the best interests of either Eastern or Western wage labor.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Five years... in the OG days we'd be prepping for the next generation about now.

    Then things got weird around the 2008 financial crash. :(

    (US dates)

    Atari 2600 - 1977
    Atari 5200 - 1982
    Atari 7800 - 1986
    Atari Jaguar - 1993

    NES - 1985
    SNES - 1990
    N64 - 1996
    Gamecube - 2001
    Wii - 2006
    Wii U - 2012
    Switch - 2017
    Switch 2 - 2025

    Sega Master System - 1986
    Genesis - 1989
    Sega CD - 1992
    32X - 1994
    Saturn - 1995
    Dreamcast - 1999

    NEC Turbo Grafx 16 / CD - 1989
    NEC Turbo Duo - 1993

    Playstation - 1995
    PS2 - 2000
    PS3 - 2006
    PS4 - 2013
    PS4 Pro - 2016
    PS5 - 2020
    PS5 Pro - 2024

    Xbox - 2001
    Xbox 360 - 2005
    Xbox One - 2013
    Xbox One X - 2017
    Xbox Series X - 2020

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like part of it was that the console revisions past 2008 aren't as big of a deal as they were before. You also had publishers start producing games for multiple generations of consoles at the same time.

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    [–] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, that’s tariffs for you. Completely expected, though a ~10% bump on the PS5 doesn’t adjust for all the tariff increase IIRC.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Unfortunately Christmas is gonna be rough time for a lot of Americans this year thanks to the trump tax

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's their fault for voting for Trump or not voting at all

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Tens of millions of us voted against it and did our best to convince those around us.

    On the whole, we deserve what we’re getting. We asked for it. I just hope the rest of the world doesn’t forget that so many of us tried.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Literal millions of us (myself included) voted "correctly" for Harris. Blue no matter who. We did our part for your petty ass purity test and we're still getting fucked.

    Must be nice to live in a world where people only experience the results of who they voted for.

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  • Eh, I voted third party. Why? Because my vote literally doesn't matter in my state, since Trump took it with >20% margin. Votes only really matter in like 8 states because the rest have enough straight ticket voters to secure the election for one of the candidates. And in those 8 or so states, the misinformation was real, so it's understandable that many people didn't know what they were getting with their vote, they just voted based on whatever smear campaign made them hate the other candidate more.

    IMO, the fault here lies w/ Kamala Harris for running a mediocre campaign promising the "status quo" when most people wanted real change. If she ran a more interesting campaign with actual plans regular people could understand, maybe she could've cut through the noise and reached enough people to win.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    de minimus tariff exemption (imported goods valued at under $800) ends at the end of the month because trump said so a few days ago

    this is why

    source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/suspending-duty-free-de-minimis-treatment-for-all-countries/

    This does not only affect playstation. Anyone who doesnt have a stockpile of inventory already imported are gonna be affected very soon.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Norwegian postal service will not send packages with less than $800 dollars (except for private packages). Many businesses will not send anything to the US in the coming months.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    1000001898

    jokes on you if you thought this was about this term, it's about his first term.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    remember when consoles got cheaper as they aged? ....and eventually they'd hit that $99 sweet spot in the last few quarters of life? and used game stores were overstocked with older cheap used games....

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    [–] 76 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    This is Republicans and Trump's doing btw.

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  • [+] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    You're not wrong.

    Here's how I think it's going to go down.

    • They'll realize that Sony isn't a American company.
    • They'll find out it's a Japanese company
    • They'll blame Chinese-Americans for the increase.
    • Republican gestapo intensifies
    • Tariffs will continue until Americans aren't so stupid

    Everyone in the world suffers from higher prices.

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    There is also the choice if making less money that companies are allowed to make.

    A company that is profitable will still be profitable if they make a tiny bit less profit.

    But that's not even seen as an option anymore. The idea that a company should shoulder the cost of anything instead of the consumer is crazy to us.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why would they take a hit for something the US population voted for themselves? That makes no sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Why would businesses shoulder the burden of economic downturns when they have the option to force poor people to pay for it?

    Why would they ever save for a rainy day when the laws allow them to constantly redline their buisness?

    Yeah that's the question

    I struggle to shed a tear for souless corporations

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why would they make less money just so someone else can pocket some of it? Raising prices is the only and proper business decision to this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So they lower prices when the economy is doing better right?

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But the shouty man on TV said tariffs were good! Why vibeo janes cost more?

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  • [+] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Make gaming great again!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Have you all said thank you yet for the tariffs?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Reduce comes first for a reason.

    You do not need a PS5. You don't need a new console - if you need a console at all.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    IN MY DAY WE HAD A STICK AND A HOOP AND WE WERE HAPPY

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm my day that wasn't far from the truth. We don't need quality games machines but they're a very nice luxury.

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  • Quality is exactly what we need in games machines.

    Not meaningless iteration and oppressive corporate greed. The 2600 was a quality machine - you can still find working VCS consoles in the wild - and when they fail, it's usually something that can be fixed by the owner of the console. It doesn't die because software tells it to die, or because of a known manufacturing fault where a simple fix was ignored because it wouldn't have been profitable. The same can (mostly) be said of NES, SMS, MD/Genesis, SNES, and even TG16/PC Engine.

    Beyond that, I expect that 32-bit machines and forward should still work, even if disk rot is affecting the ones that weren't cartridge based.

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  • Getting into that case also gets into pedagogical theory, because giving kids primarily analog entertainment compared to digital seems to be beneficial. I was talking about those of us adults who are already doomed. We have computers. We already have machines. We don't need the new one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A okay gaming PC withis not cheap. To some people, console is the only way

    Just buy used PS5.

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  • My PC is not a "gaming" PC. I play games on it. I have access to a nearly 50-year library of games. Just because I don't have the newest and shiniest doesn't mean I don't have tons of fun games available. And I said 'if you need a console at all'. If you are determined to play video games and you don't want them on a PC, phone, or tablet, then fine. There are thrift stores, there's eBay (though that's loaded with scalpers and scum even more than the thrift grifters), there are many ways to buy a used console. But I also stand by the thought that if what you have is working and being fun, keep using it. If the corporations have made it not fun, either go to older hardware they can't do that to, or get homebrew set up.

    Don't just keep it on a shelf "in case". Don't store it. And for the love of anything good, don't just discard it.

    Reduce. If you think you've reduced "enough", find something else to reduce.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    And a PS4 BluRay exploit has just been released, so you can crack the whole thing by burning a BluRay (up to a certain software version).

    Lots of legitimately obtained backup copies to play!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is there a cfw yet or other homebrew? Or we just at the start and they've just found the door in so far?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    There isn't a CFW for PS4. But what we have is GoldHEN (which enables us to run decrypted games, also called fPKG's) and various methods to run GoldHEN.

    Up to firmware 9.00 (I believe) there is a browser exploit to run it, up to 11.00 you can also hack the console via PPP (pppwn) and up to 12.02 GoldHEN can be loaded with a BluRay you have burned before.

    So you basically start the system and put it in a state where it accepts unsigned code. It's very similar to PS3HEN. There's also a method of hacking the console with some obscure Japanese games and one with a PS2 game. Some absolute madlads even made it possible to hack the PS4 with an LG Smart TV. 😆

    The channel MODDED WARFARE always reports on those methods and makes tutorials, highly recommended.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    ✓Fuck around

    ✓Find out

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Damn I'm gonna not buy it even harder now

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I'm gonna wait until 11:59 to order my PS5 and then list it tomorrow as a "limited edition pre-increase model" for $150 more. Then Sony will hire me as their CEO.

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