After that movie, the influence the DoD had was much more subtle if it was there at all.

Their involvement is blatant. They literally have a near century long intimate relationship with Hollywood as a well established recruitment tactic. It's hardly a secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93entertainment_complex

https://www.military.com/undertheradar/2018/03/22/how-why-defense-department-works-hollywood.html

Ngl i just thought he looked bummed

Did they just serve 5 types of corn-based foods, y'know, for immersion?

You don't watch many movies, do you?

What if one wore his pants inside out?

That aspect would be perfectly alright if the plots were good.

No, that's Columbo.

Even less effort than what? They just released a superman movie that didn't have anything to do with previous superman movies. Isn't that the easiest way to do a reboot? How is shoehorning in a multiverse easier?

Seriously! It's almost as if movies were never meant to be bottomless well of cash for wealthy investors, but rather some kind of "art" that takes time and special knowledge and genuine care from an "artist..."

Ah, there I go again.

That's why there were so many characters. New characters were invented. New crossovers. New story arcs.

I don't care about other people. And it is not about what another producer thought.

It is literally that I can hear that a character that I liked died but I honestly don't care because 1. I don't care about this shit and 2. I know the character will be back.

Let me contrast it with star wars because I think it becomes pretty obvious there.

The story becomes meaningless because I know that that the whole team that created the media knew that they don't have to care. Disney decided to reboot star wars and they are doing great job in ruining something great by been unable to commit to a plan too. But for my enjoyment of star wars legends, I can easily ignore the current canon. When something happened in legends, you had a reasonable expectation that it will stay meaningful for the rest of the franchise. Now with the badly executed reboot, at least for rn, I can assume that the people who died in those movies are dead and will stay dead. The next movie will not have magically a dead character inside because multiverse. Movie A has an impact if movies B to Z. And yes, Lucas Art fucked the Legends story up at times but guess what.... That is life.

"But in the last movie [redacted] comes back to life" yes quite a disappointing writing from Disney. It reads like marvel.

"But in the clone wars, [redacted] came back to life" yes and no, imo one of the mistakes while I like the character. But importantly the character technically was never shown dead and it was a plot twist and his "death" had actually a long term impact on the events of the story, making it meaningful for the story.

I can't stand the multiverse write off, even "what if" (which I personally loved at first) started to suffer with the whole strange being the bbeg arc.

I agree. I haven't seen Thunderbolts yet, but I just saw Fantastic Four last night and thought it was actually really good compared to a lot of the other recent Marvel movies. Even the ones I liked all felt like they had the same script more or less, but this one it seemed like they went for less action and easy jokes and just focused on the characters and the story. I liked it a lot.

Fantastic Four is good? I'll have to see it at some point, then. Those poor characters have never managed to be in a good movie before now, so I kinda forgot there was a new MCU one.

With Ironheart, the show is okay, but there's just no way to make the main character work. Unless they transition the character to be a villain.

Thunderbolts was a great made-for-tv movie.

Haven't seen any other dress-up movies in a while.

Isn’t every movie a dress-up movie?

What did you find painful about it? While I dont think it was historic level cinema, I fid find it entertaining.

Did you like the first 2 Deadpool movies? If so, what was worse about this one?

seemed alot more cringey than the last 2 deadpools, more personal stories. and they fell for the multi-versal slop.

But semantics have become more fluid and non-binary over the past decade.