831
Cinema fall is comming (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
136 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 81 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

Imo, the worst shit is the multiverse shit that makes it all meaningless. If they don't like how they told the story, they will just make up a new version and say multiverse and you are the idiot for saying that it doesn't make sense in another way because multiverse.

An repetitive story with no meaningful content for the franchise and no interest in consistency.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 13 child comments
    •
  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is how I feel about comic book stories in general. Due to the nature of the medium, they have to constantly come up with new stories with the same set of characters to keep it fresh…eventually the well runs dry.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Seriously! It's almost as if movies were never meant to be bottomless well of cash for wealthy investors, but rather some kind of "art" that takes time and special knowledge and genuine care from an "artist..."

    Ah, there I go again.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not like stories without a multiverse aspect have any more meaning. If someone has an interesting story to tell but it conflicts with some other aspect of a larger storyline (but works well with the rest), why not branch it off so it can stay internally consistent with its own story and not have to worry about what some other producers thought would be cool?

    It's the people who think you're an idiot for not following every variation or understanding which ones go together who are the assholes. They are also the idiots themselves IMO for putting so much importance on knowledge of a set of fictional universes (and I say this as a geek who loves diving in to fictional universes, I just understand not all such dives are equal and my own deeper dives don't make me better than anyone).

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't care about other people. And it is not about what another producer thought.

    It is literally that I can hear that a character that I liked died but I honestly don't care because 1. I don't care about this shit and 2. I know the character will be back.

    Let me contrast it with star wars because I think it becomes pretty obvious there.

    The story becomes meaningless because I know that that the whole team that created the media knew that they don't have to care. Disney decided to reboot star wars and they are doing great job in ruining something great by been unable to commit to a plan too. But for my enjoyment of star wars legends, I can easily ignore the current canon. When something happened in legends, you had a reasonable expectation that it will stay meaningful for the rest of the franchise. Now with the badly executed reboot, at least for rn, I can assume that the people who died in those movies are dead and will stay dead. The next movie will not have magically a dead character inside because multiverse. Movie A has an impact if movies B to Z. And yes, Lucas Art fucked the Legends story up at times but guess what.... That is life.

    "But in the last movie [redacted] comes back to life" yes quite a disappointing writing from Disney. It reads like marvel.

    "But in the clone wars, [redacted] came back to life" yes and no, imo one of the mistakes while I like the character. But importantly the character technically was never shown dead and it was a plot twist and his "death" had actually a long term impact on the events of the story, making it meaningful for the story.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Both of those characters returned in the original versions before Disney threw out the EU stuff btw. And the first one was IMO done in a satisfying way (unlike the Disney version where he's just kinda back).

    But yeah, I can see some of your points, like having to keep track of more things and not necessarily being able to use information from previous movies to inform the current one.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •