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[–] 180 points 1 year ago (10 children)

ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is wikipedia on the list? I see reddit is, lol. We might see an influx soon.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    not yet, but the wikimedia foundation has been fighting against it expecting that it would be a class 1 site and require it.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Here's one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story

    Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it's ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.

    You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.

    There's other resources available via kiwix as well but I've not really explored them to be honest

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Does it run a local web server or is it all static files? Is it searchable?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    We turn various online educational contents (such as Wikipedia, for example) into ZIM files, and these can be opened by Kiwix even if you have no connectivity whatsoever.

    https://flathub.org/apps/org.kiwix.desktop

    The ZIM file format is an open file format that stores website content for offline usage.[1] The format is defined by the openZIM project, which also supports an open-source ZIM reader called Kiwix. The format is primarily used to store the contents of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, including articles, full-text search indices and auxiliary files.[2][3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIM_(file_format)

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    All content files are indexed and compressed in ZIM format, which makes them smaller, but leaves them easy to search and selectively decompress.

    The ZIM files are then opened with Kiwix, which looks and behaves like a web browser, or with a suitably enabled conventional browser. Kiwix offers full text search, tabbed navigation, and the option to export articles to PDF and HTML.[8]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwix#Description

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So I feel like I'm now hearing more successful pushes for censorship through this stuff.

    Just last week I learned how Texas has a bill that makes it so if anyone ever invested in green technology that they wouldn't be allowed

    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/texas-boycott-companies-fossil-fuels/

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  • [–] 315 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can't watch porn...

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  • [+] -33 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    In Sweden pretty much anybody has Bank Id, an app which is connected to a bank account and which can function as a valid identification.

    App belongs a private company, but it's still trustworthy and everybody can sign government docs with that.

    This is how you should do age verification, through a third party app, not like any site will get your id/picture to just end in their DBs ready to be stolen.

    Every government should create an app for the online id, I don't get why this seems so hard to achieve.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's super trustworthy bro I swear

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The effect is still the same these companies are given access to my personal information because the government wants to monitor our activity online

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'd prefer my internet free...

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Like other medias before, internet probably has reached a need for some harder control. I'm not talking about porn, I'm talking about disinformation, bots and soon AI.

    Not sure which is the best way but I'll not give any id or credit card to any randim site in order to see their content.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    "Disinformation"

    Ahhh ok I see now.

    So who do you think should be in charge of that?

    Who do we make "the good guys" that get to tell me the information I need to see. USA, CCP, Israel, Russia, EU?

    Fuck that shit. I don't trust a god damn one of them and if you do then your opinions on regulating the internet don't mean shit to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I agree we need to get rid of all the bullshit you mentioned - but I don't think giving up our anonymity or more gated communities (like facebook, twitter, instgram and all those fucked up places) are the solution.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Credit cards should roughly do the same, but both of those aren't "great" for privacy and really exists to make profiles of adults while pretending to negate the need for parents to parent (the only real way to reduce/prevent harms of kids witnessing age inappropriate media). Your ability to do financial transactions shouldn't be tied to your speech or content you view.

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  • [+] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    My point is you shouldn't present any id to a random site, it should exists a government app that does it for you.

    Same as the passport you show at the border and it should not even show name or picture, is should just say if you are over 18 or not.

    People shouldn't be in the need to show a credit card to watch porn.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.

    The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.

    Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The news can't easily report on users actually returning to piracy; who would admit to it? And how would you get data on it? Much easier to truthfully report on users who talk about returning to piracy.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region). And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.

    Plus, you won't be at risk of spending money you don't have, and it doesn't negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)

    Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Besides that, credit cards (and chipless debit cards) are unsecure? That receiving credit cards payments costs more in terms of administration costs?

    That credit cards are a system designed for consumerism (you see this especially in the US) and that people who grew up with credit cards being the default/more common payment method are often worse with money?

    There is a reason why you can only own credit cards if you are an adult, but you can own chipped debit cards earlier.

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database and your behaviour being mapped for suspicious illegal activity like criticising genocide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're right and I'd go a bit further: It's none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

    Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    fair point but given the direction US and UK are headed, something legal you do online can be illegal in a couple years with a face attached to that activity. What you mention is also bad (your face being in a face recognition database) but not as bad as that being attached to tons of behavioural data collected about you.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Don't threaten, just do it!

    I don't get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Personally, the open source community's aversion to algorithms is what's holding me back. Say what you will about them, but I've found many great songs thanks to Spotify's algo.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If you're just looking for an engine that recommends you music based off your likes, the FOSS community could utilize the Music Genomoe Project to build a tool too do that based one a folder or Playlist of music provided to it. I would be surprised if there already wasn't a FOSS tool to do that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I was dragging my feet because I really liked the algorithmic features. As much as I hate "AI" being jammed into everything these days, I really liked their DJ feature, and the "crate a playlist from a prompt" was a lot of fun to play with!

    My favorite generated playlist was "Determined music for poopwalking home from Taco Bell"

    That being said, they've been corrupting their music exploration tools with corporate interest for a while, so it's been becoming less desirable as a result

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't use any proprietary apps. Only FOSS apps installed on my phone.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)
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    I hate Spotify and would like to stop paying them even 1/5th of a family subscription. But I have researched alternatives and haven't found one that meets my need to manage offline files, playlists, and the current playback session across many (and I mean many) devices.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.

    Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!' Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

    "oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    We live in a rural part of Canada that has been left behind by modern times. Mostly by the choice of the residents. I grew up during satanic panic. It was crazy here. My wife and I let our kids listen to anything they want. They always have. They're 10 and 12.

    Their friends often comment about swear words and "sex, drugs and rock and roll" themes of the music they listen too. As an old man I get to regale them with stories of how crazy the Christians were over heavy metal and punk rock when I was a kid, including their grandma.

    Now I yell "you're gonna go to hell!" As a joke to them every time their friends bring it up and I am around.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    You're parenting the right way. Let our kids know about our past and how it compares to theirs, live it. And joking with my kids and their friends without immediately jumping to "that's bullying", you can tell my kids are a bit happier than the rest because everything is a joke to them. I applaud you.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government's doing.

    And soon, this shit will come to every country. They're all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, fuck it. At this point we might as well put our passport numbers in the HTTP headers.

    Coming to a pop up near you. If they even bother to ask any more.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think there are going to be a whole lot of phishing and blackmail scams in the future, preying on the stupid computer illiterate masses putting in their personal information into fake "age verifiers" to access porn or other adult content.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it's impossible to rebuild it.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Piracy preserves media.

    Piracy preserves art.

    Piracy makes sure, that future generations still have access to the creations of humanity.

    Data hoarding is a service to the public.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I initially perceived piracy similarly to how or perceive reading about archaeology and such, so the fact that someone is sincere in hating p2p copying and calling it immoral just felt preposterous.

    Yet now it seems plenty of normies will agree. Then go listen to something they didn't pay for on YouTube or Facebook or whatever, because "everybody uses that". What "everybody uses" is fine, see. What they condemn me the pirate for is using ed2k, torrents and such other technologies. Even when I'm literally downloading public domain stuff or abandonware.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    tf is spotify "fans"? more like spotify "users"

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.

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