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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
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    I remember having read this one as a child in elementary school. Had to keep the anthology book it was in checked out for several months, as I kept re-reading it trying to grapple with the ethics of the story. It was brutal for a 10yo.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago
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    guy maupassant? e.g. the necklace

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We read The Yellow Wallpaper and that was pretty effed.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I only recently discovered Shirley Jackson's The Lottery, but I think that would need to be in the conversation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I read that in 9th grade and it didn't phase or really scare me. In my case, I think it's because I was used to more violent video games.

    Either way, I would agree. Was a pretty good story, all things considered.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A Modest Proposal traumatized one girl in my class.

    We all had to write our own versions, trade them randomly, and read them aloud. She ended up with mine: Have the death row inmates build a prison on the moon, then turn off their air supply to complete their sentence. (Wrote it before I'd read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress)

    She finished reading, and exclaimed "What is WRONG with you!?" She knew it was mine because of how hard I was laughing at her panic.

    I was outdone by the quiet girl who included a recipe for "kitten kurry" in her essay though. I really should have tried to get with her, lol.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If we're talking the one by Dr. Johnathan Swift, about selling poor people babies and kids for food, then I absolutely agree. I just found and read it on Gutenberg and it was a little disturbing, in an interesting but absolutely messed up way.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    That's the one! It was an honors English class & the topic for the week was satire. The teacher had print copies of The Onion that were being passed around the class and I was cracking up the whole time.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas by Ursula K. Le Guin

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Was on my way to post this. Revisited in ethics 101 in college, and again in ethics in technology(uni). 'Harm reduction' is the answer you are looking for, because no matter how perfect you think your ethic framework is, nature and bad actors will never respect it or take responsibility. Reality mocks philosophy's 'utopias.'

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I like the other interpretation, where the writer inserts the suffering so you the reader would find it more believable because you've been conditioned to accept that we can't have a good society without making at least some people suffer for it.

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  • [+] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I read Flowers for Algernon as an adult. It hit me hard. I have since heard that it is read i school many places in the US.

    Edit: I've only read the novel he wrote based on the short story, but I guess the short story is equally as good since it won the Hugo award while the novel won the nebula award.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Many people have a visceral reaction to Palahniuk’s Guts, but it never hit me particularly hard. That and the underage incest impreg fantasies, it was always a bit of a turn off.

    Honestly, for me, nothing beats good old Edgar Allan Poe, and he’s already in the syllabus.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I had started reading his short story collection (that contains Guts, forget what its called) back in high school after reading like three of his other books in a row (Lullaby, Survivor and Fight Club), and I was just burnt out on the shock factor thing.

    Never finished the collection.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That would probably be Haunted. Yeah, I see what you mean.

    That said, Palahniuk will always have a special place in my heart for introducing me to one of my favorite authors, Amy Hempel. (See eg https://www.csub.edu/~mault/palahniuk.htm )

    Also, from a Reddit AmA, my favorite quote about the writing process. Someone asked a question along the line of, how do you know when you are done writing? When it’s polished enough? And he answered something along the lines of “I have a simple rule. A writing project isn’t done until I want to kill myself and everyone else involved with it”.

    I was in the final stages of writing my doctoral dissertation back then, and boy did it resonate with me.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Damn near anything Ray Bradbury wrote. I swear he just wanted to traumatize anyone that read any of his work.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh my God thank you. I'd been trying to think back to an animated short story about a house with no living humans going about it's programmed life that I saw in school in the 80s. On and off for the last 20 years I've searched for Asimov, Clarke, even thinking maybe it was Adams, never considered it was Bradbury. There will come soft rains. 20 years!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I must need to read more, last short stories I read (maybe listened) were relatively tame about being on Mars I think, so possibly not the right collection. Maybe I didn't quite get their message either. Did listen to Something this way comes, which has its disturbing parts but not overly but nicely geared for a younger audience for sure. That said I started reading Stephen King and watching horror movies much younger than is probably expected, think first Nightmare on Elm Street was before 10 heh, King books were later of course.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Guts - Chuck Palahniuk
    When someone mentioned it, I was like "it's just a story, in a book, and I've read some shit. How bad can it be?" Well, it can be really bad, I wanted to unread it. The memory is fading now, but I still have an "ugh" feeling

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    All Summer in a Day isn’t necessarily scary, but reading it in 6th grade felt like a real eye opener on just how evil people can be, especially when they don’t even understand that they are.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    death of a salesman. making depressed highschoolers read that while some of them already may be considering suicide just about did a few of us in. also the plot just sucks.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Short stories:

    • Flowers for Algernon
    • I have no mouth and I must scream

    Short-ish:

    • Of mice and men
    • Brave new world
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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    There will come soft rains, I presume, is what inspired that post. It has done a number on many a child

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    hands raised to catch a ball which never came down.

    That story wasn't even assigned to us. I read The Martian Chronicles for fun as a kid and stumbled into that lovely scene of existential dread.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    "Computers Don't Argue" by Gordon Dickson. Guy gets shipped the wrong book by a book club, tries to return it, gets sent to a collections agency, and things spiral completely out of control from there. It's lived rent-free in my head since I read it years ago. (apologies for the mobile-unfriendly format, this is the only source I know for this story) https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc2/showpage.php?page=133

    "Unauthorized Bread" by Cory Doctorow is a more up-to-date discussion of the same kind of power dynamics though. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Turkish elementary-school books.

    Wanna read about a small girl getting beat up by her dad and kicked out before freezing to death as she vividly imagines her dead grandma and lighting matchsticks to prolong her suffering for 20 pages?

    I think author was either Russian or Danish. Still no clue why that was a required read at age of 7 in my school.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    The Cold Equations by Tom Godwin

    Space might be the final frontier but it is by no means forgiving

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I am a huge fan of hard sci-fi, but always hated Cold Equations.

    The FTL ships can drop out of Hyperspace close enough to a planet for a rocket propelled ship to reach it, but the big ship can’t just drop the cargo off or have a purpose built cargo shuttle drop it off?

    How do they unload the big cruisers anyway? Land the whole big ship?

    The big ships run on such a tight schedule and rocket fuel is so precious due to weight that the computer calculates the fuel requirements to the milligram, but doesn’t allow for alternate landing sites? These supplies are supposed to be critical, but if your pilot can’t find a perfect spot instantly, or gets blown off course by a gust of wind, he’s going to crash and die on the way down? The fuck kind of emergency response is that. Like sending a food truck with no brakes.

    The weight of a human when compared to cargo and vehicle dry mass is negligible. A margin of error for landing would easily account for the deltaV required to decelerate 100kilos.

    The tightest moon landing, fuel wise, was Apollo 11, and even they probably had about 45 seconds of fuel left when they finally touched down. At the time it was thought to be 15 seconds, but later analysis found a fault with the fuel level sensor that’s caused it to read lower than it should.

    Even in the 60s, NASA made sure there was enough fuel to allow the astronauts to pilot to a good landing site. And in Apollo, every ounce counted, the margins were extremely tight.

    It would be a better story concept as a long haul trip where food, water, and oxygen would be used at twice the intended rate and that’s why the stowaway had to go. But fuel should not have been the primary reason.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    See, my contemporary high-school complaint was “if the weight constraints are really so precise, then a successful liftoff would have already burned too much fuel because there’s too much weight, and this ship is doomed no matter what.”

    To be fair, I learned a lot from that story. Just not quite what the teacher intended.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I was 12 or 13 when I first encountered this story and my takeaway from it was that engineers are kind of shit at their jobs.

    Let's assume for a moment that the constraints are plausible (they're not, as Zron pointed out): given this overwhelming lean toward unforgiving harsh reality ... why were there no security checks, etc. in place to deal with the inevitable occurrences when someone would be in a place they're not supposed to be upon launch? Good engineers plan for failures of systems, not just their presence. If those rockets are such utter and complete death traps, why was the security around them so lackadaisical? The engineers who set up that system probably also set up a 15cm wide stairway up 150m to get to the rocket without providing guide rails.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Blood Child ild by Octavia Butler. Humans living on an alien reservation have the males implanted by the insect like alien's eggs and they start burrowing out of your flesh when they're ready.

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    When the Wind Blows.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A textbook on integral calculus

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My freshman college English prof assigned House of Leaves.

    It was awesome watching the preppy kids descend into madness

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  • That book drove me to madness, not because of the creepy content but just because there was so much going on in the endnotes. I'm compulsive about reading all the footnotes and endnotes in anything I read, but I generally hate having to keep one finger in the page I'm on in the main text while reading through the notes in their tiny font (e-readers are a godsend to me, as long as they handle notes decently, which not all of them do). I had a hardback copy of House of Leaves so it was a bit of a physical ordeal and my hands hurt all the time.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Someone else mentioned Flowers for Algernon, so mine will be ģWhere the Red Fern Grows_. Such an emotional roller coaster.

    And while I won't downplay those K-12 books, I think anyone who's ever taken a Russian Literature class in college will agree that Russian authors are next level for depressing novels. Few things compare to the bleak, gray, petty, inescapable, hopeless lives portrayed by authors like Sologub, and while English translations would certainly be accessible to high school students, I'm really glad they don't include them.

    Unless someone's going to say they were given The Petty Demon as a reading assignment in high school.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I remember in high school our text book had some paragraphs from various literature books. One of the books was called zombie (or zombies) so of course I checked it out, even if the teacher skipped it. The section was just a description or something, nothing particular, but I decided to borrow the book at the library anyway, and the full story was basically (spoilers ahead, it's gory):

    Tap for spoilerThis guy kidnapped people (men, women) to give them a lobotomy, then kept them in his bathtub to rape them until they started to rot

    I wonder if somebody did it as an Easter egg or what

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Into the Wild (1996) is a popular pick for something both scarring but also uncontroversial.

    Less exciting would be The Pinballs (1976).

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • !shortstories@literature.cafe

    Whatever you choose, post right there 😭

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    We had to read this book called A Prayer for Owen Meany in school. Lots of weird stuff in that one. Main thing that stood out to me was a part where the mc is tied up to his girl cousin and gets an erection

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    I try to not remember The Veldt but I still liked it as a good read. I also hated Harrison Bergeron but I think I was suppose to?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I've always remembered H. G. Wells' The Red Room, altho it's shorter than most mentioned here I think. Just loved it. So unsettling. So evocative and creepy. It's been maybe thirteen years. 😂

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Book Thief by Markus Zusak

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Was a full, but short, novel that I think was summer reading: The Chocolate Wars.

    Not traumatizing as much as just a shit message. Don't quietly try to opt out of what the public wants, don't rock the boat, or you'll be executed publicly as a spectacle while your peers cheer.

    Kid doesn't want to participate in his high school chocolate selling fundraiser, bunch of other things happen in between, and then his classmates organize a rigged boxing match between him and the biggest school bully where they all cheer while the bully beats the main character to death. And it just hard cuts, ends there.

    What a garbage book.

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    I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. If comics count, The Enigma of Amigara Fault.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Oh man, let's talk about short stories that defined my taste in literature!

    • To Build A Fire: definitely built a fascination in me of the morbid and got me way more into survivalism than quick sand ever did. I live in a cold place too and that put it well into perspective how dangerous that can be.

    • The Sniper: This was my start into war literature, and what a good start. I keep coming back to this one when I hear people talk about a civil war in the US. It's more unsettling now than ever before.

    • The Lottery. How couldn't that be on the list?

    • Cask of Amontillado: big vibes. Poe made me goth-brained no doubt.

    Our school also had us read Robert Frost. Really great way to introduce kids to the idea that 'some folks just kinda wanna die all the time'. That and why child labor laws are good and important.

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    Im still scarred by my english teacher enthusiastically reading certain scenes of Equus to the class.

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