Weezing the biiiii..... osssssss!
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Snow cone? Nah, Snow Crash!
That's no BIOS. That's systemd.
It uses Linux? That's actually nice to see (but do you really need a full blown OS to show a logo?)
Probably installed as a unit, computer with monitor. Perhaps a modifed version of a Linux OS?
The thing that gets me is that they seem to have a separate machine for each display
easier to buy 10 rpis than a single embedded system with 10 diplay ports
Dont need remotely a full rpi for this. A pico or esp32 might do the trick.
This is being produced in relatively low numbers (thousands) , so software development is a factor. Just plopping a scripted browser in kiosk mode on Debian is cheaper than ESP32 UI development.
Idk, if they're plugging in one for each screen it sounds like a lot; there are libraries to do most of this. It wpuld only take me about a month or someone competent a couple days to write this. I kbow there's libraries to display, but i don't know what else this is monitoring/controlling. So that seems safe,
So there's a computer hardware cost that goes from ~5x(4?) Per machine to ~45x4 per machine. That's ~ 2 hours of code per machine difference that this would make, assuming you were paying ~80/hr to write it, which is reasonable.
Even assuming no code was needed for the pi, production takes twice as long as expected, and electricity costs don't matter (which, next to the condenser; they may not) you break even at ~16 machines. 20 if you want to throw in some other random arbitrary cost.
Even if you assune pi 0's, at, what 20/each? You still break even before 100 units.
So it would take less than a hundred machines for smaller chips to pay off. I'd believe an exec didnt (even ask someone else to) do this math, but how long have pi's had multiple video out's?
Idk, if they’re plugging in one for each screen it sounds like a lot; there are libraries to do most of this.
X11 can easily handle multiple screens.
Not sure about the Pi's limitations but COTS SBCs can too.
Can't read the text in the image but i'm informed it's a crash.
Which would mean that machine, or that virtual machine, is not on any of the other screens. Right?
Yeah, it seems as though it's one controlling (virtual) machine per dispenser, so 1:1 to the screens.
Im really not sure it's vm's though. Thats separate displays.
I'm not sure either and it's most likely not VMs, it's one CBS per box, but it could easily be one VM per display.
For an Esp32 you'd need to take a larger model which has psram. With the Pi, yes a is take a zero (Zero 2w or so). The Pi already has hdmi on board and a graphics chip and accelerator, while for the ESP32 you'd need a custom solution.
The price difference is maybe 10 Dollars per piece or so. On the PI I have 512Mb of RAM and what ever SD they put in for storage. On the Esp32 I have 8 psram or so and a tiny bit of flash.
Ah right, for the ESP i probably need to wire up a sd card, custom board, all that stuff, to just store that 24bit 1024x768bit image.
Naah, while I love my ESPs and am just build a project with one - the PI is just so more competent for this task while still being damn cheap.
A decent Esp 32 board is around Eur 5, a. pi zero 2w around 20. Compute module proably similar - customer prices.
That's a 15 Euro difference.
Ah and my developer pool who can code for Unix is a LOT bigger than the pool who have commercial experience for the Esp32.
I can't follow your math, at 100 units the price difference is 100x15 for me, which is 1500.- About a day of developing for a small team, if the office and hardware is free. More if you pay for those, too.
When I calculate, custom development always is more expensive.
I hope the machine is up to the job. I'd pack at least 64 gigs of RAM and a nice GPU.
That doesn't sound like enough, need at least like 128gb for the ai chat bot that you ask to change the picture for you
I totally forgot about the necessity to put AI into them, I'm so sorry!
At some point you realize that the slushee has melted in the face of your system's 1000 W TDP...
That seems too low. What kind of low spec AI slush master 7000 are you using?
Yeah, modular systems. Buy 2, buy 20, setup time is roughly the same.
Every one of them is running a crypominer
At least the cooling is sufficient.
👀 *could be running a cryptominer
Probably there for "easily changing out logos of different flavor instead of using paper/plastic printout"
Sure but there's a different machine for each display.
One crashed. The others didn't.
Im very much a 'hell, lets take it apart right here and figure out what's going on' kinda girl, but this is a sign that i never want to see the inside of that machine.
Depending on how much is linked up between them its entirely possible each machine is basically independent from each other and simply sharing the same casing. The advantage of this would be that even if one machine goes out or is having issues the other ones hopefully aren't. I watch enough Bringus to know that shit under the hood for these commercial machines are fucking weird.
i’d imagine the company would make 2, 4, 6, 10 drink dispensing machines… having commodity hardware makes it super cheap to just have different shells and a power bus that you bolt electronics and mechanics onto in discrete parts
heck each individual controller could read an RFID tag embedded in the syrup and update its display automatically just from the inserted cartridge which would be PITA to do on a single machine
adding all the sensors for each, a display out for each… it’s really just way simpler to duplicate the hardware… honestly, good engineering
Seems insane to run multiple machines for something like this. I wonder if maybe it is virtualized under the hood and one VM went kaput or something?
It's likely a connected IoT device. Might simply have pinged for an open port due to bad setup and someone was trying to run an attack on it. Or maybe just a corrupted update file. Or a cosmic ray hit the ram or chipset and if just randomly crashed as a result.
Don't over think a crashed computer. Just ask if anyone has tried turning it off and then on again.
They might also monitor the temperature and amount of slurpee left so they can notify employees to refill it
Not just to show the logo, but to run the entire machine. Probably IoT enabled, so monitoring and maintenance actions and OTA are important enough that it’s worth having a very slim version of Linux on there instead of taking the security risk of building up from a lower level.
The computer controls the whole machine the logo part is a bonus. It also changes to like a do not use when Its not frozen or out of order.
So working on ad machines before a lot of them connect to an external ftp site to pull down the latest version of the logo. Things like this you don’t care if it’s secure or not
Until it displays porn
In 2025 we boot a whole Linux system to display a logo.
Does it run Wayland? :P
I've never seen one of these, but I assume it performs other functions - surely monitoring sensors, probably reporting that data, maybe allowing triggering maintenance functions, etc.
That said, processing and storage is so cheap on this scale that it's probably better (and cheaper) to go with a tried and true, widely supported system, than it is to optimize with custom hardware/firmware.
I've seen a very similar print out when installing/loading Arch for the first time.
a whole linux system isn't even all that crazy. if it runs doom it can probably also run linux so probably everything from a potato to a dog's left testicle can run linux.
Kind of discriminatory, what about the right??
I feel like that isn't that far fetched, considering this machine probably has some sort of Internet connectivity so you can update the labels remotely and do other remote maintenance/monitoring tasks.
Wouldn't be surprised if they ran animated splash.
Hell, wouldn't be surprised if they started pushing ads through the screens.
Now all I want to do is invent a blended cocktail called "Kernel Panic".
200ml tequila 400mg ritalin 3mg lsd 3 scoops vanilla(? Need help with the flavor) ice cream 200ml milk or plain yogurt
Salt rim with cocaine and ascorbic acid sip gently.
Edit: do not drink this. This is the second most dangerous coctail recipe I've ever written.
Ok, but ... 3mg of lsd is a lot for the whole class, same with them amphetamines.
And on the other hand you serve tequila & milk in breakfast numbers?
I'm not saying I'm not writing this down, but damn.
This is an important comment
With illegal amounts of alcohol, caffeine, and ketamine
Next time take a better picture so we can tell you how to fix it.
Or at least how to run DOOM on it.
The flash memory the OS is stored on is borked.
Filesystem check shows dependency errors attempting to check ext4 fs on /dev/mmcblk0p2. Assuming ext4 and fsck are installed (it should be if this isn't a mega-custom ultra stripped down private distribution) this shouldn't be possible.
Further down networking fails to initialize leading to a bunch of fails before it succeeds and reaches its target, only to be stopped by the dependency errors again.
This implies every drink and its display is handled by its own computer running linux. Potentially mtndew has a different IP than coca cola.
Not a blue screen... that's maybe a kernel panic but can't read it myself.
It's failing storage, top half of the display is EXT4 complaining it can't read the SD card, bottom half is the result of that, services can't start.
My slurped machine needs an HD upgrade? But I just upgraded it dammit!
Nooo don't! It's snow crash 😱
It's not the bios and they'll never get a bsod. It's a damn systemd unit.
didn't systemd add a bsod equivalent some months ago? iirc optional default off so nobody will ever see it?
IDK but it's strange if true, because I'd say that a BSOD is more like a kernel panic? Obviously, I'm not an expert.
Blue Slurpee Of Death

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