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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

I think they realized in time that rheyr planned obsolescence was gone to be too fucking obvious and chose to give out free money instead.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I just got rid of my Pixel 6a because it had one of the bad batteries. Tip to anyone taking advantage of the trade in rebate, DO NOT get the $150 Google Store credit and be like me thinking you can use it on the Google Fi Store to purchase a new Pixel. The $150 store credit is only towards the purchase of a Pixel phone via the Google Store. Take the $100 cash rebate option instead because it tells you once you choose either option, you cannot change it.

    My hope was to get the Pixel 9a on my account for $249 (activation discount) on my account and then use the $150 store credit... nope.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Have you tried not purchasing a Google phone? I heard this works extremely well.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's all well and good being oh so principled like you're making yourself out to be, but phones are expensive, and the above user is being completely rational for wanting to settle on a Pixel 9a for $250, especially when the other OEMs have plenty of their own problems.

    Get off your moral high horse.

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    [–] [S] 109 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I just want a comeback of phones with swappable batteries.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Its 900$ where im at. I can get 3 phones for the same price. Terracube 2 apparently does too, but last time I had a Terracube, it failed pretty bad. Literally fell apart and no software updates at all.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Typing this on an samsung xcover 6 pro right now. Costs less than 200 used, has a removable battery, up to 1tb micro SD card support, and a headphone jack.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does it run lineage, because that is the only way I'll touch Samsung's abysmal OS ever again

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It does not, but I don't sign into any Samsung/Google things and replace every system app with one from F-Droid including the launcher. The experience is fairly similar to my old pixel with grapheneos like this. I am sure it is far cry from as secure, but I am realistic about my threat model and am willing to make trades to be more sustainable and convenient. The only other difference is the system ui skin, which does its job just fine IMO

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hi, I was considering samsung as an option. Could you please tell me why you dont like samsung? I'm looking for cons but review sites only want to sing praises.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Samsung locks the bootloader, even for carrier unlocked versions traight from samsung's website. (At least for those sold in the US, not sure about other places)

    If you don't intend to use a custom RON like Lineage OS, you wouldn't notice a difference. But if you do, then it might be a dealbreaker. As for the Xcover series in particularx the specs are worse for the amount you're paying. Camera is worse, SoC is slower, assuming if you are conparing the price of a brand new mainstream S or A series phones to a brand new Xcover series. But if you don't care about worse specs for the swappable battery, then sure, go ahead. I personally wouldn't get the Xcover series, doesn't seem like a good deal, the screen is LCD and I'm way too used to OLED/AMOLED of the more mainstream phones.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I was going to opt for a battery replacement, but I called the local store that does the replacement, and they told me that it's common for the screen to break during the battery swap process. And if they break the screen, I would be on the hook for the cost to replace it, around $160. I don't know how that is even legal in the first place, but it certainly turned me off from wanting to let them change my battery. And mailing the phone in for a battery swap would leave me without a phone for weeks...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I too don't understand why you would be responsible for THEM breaking the screen.

    Imagine your mechanic breaks a part while changing your oil then says you're responsible for the cost of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    You've got a better mechanic than me I guess. If you bring in an old shitty car for repairs you can expect more than one thing is in bad shape.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If it's already fucked and it breaks during work then you pay. The screen is not already fucked.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The shop has experience. They know it's very probable it will break. They didn't pay for the lesson, but you will pay for their experience. Get mad at the engineer of the phone not the repair technician.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If the carmaker has a recall on the airbags, and the dealer breaks the instrument cluster in the process of replacing the airbag assembly, you're goddamn right I'm not paying for the instrument cluster. I don't care if the car is ten years old. It's a recall, which means it's bad design and always was. That is 100% on the mechanic, the manufacturer, and the engineer that designed the instrument cluster to break if the airbag is replaced.

    They can fuck right off with that shit

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Even if you mail it to Google, they will make you pay for the screen before they will do the swap. That's what happened with my 4a. I had them ship it back instead and took the cash.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    What do you mean? Did your phone already have damage to the screen, or they were making you preemptively pay in case the screen broke?

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I have owned 3 pixels.

    5a - bricked randomly 8 - screen failed within 6 months 6a - stuck in a bootloop, gave up on fixing it just before the battery issue made headlines

    I gave them a fair shake. Never again.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I had the 3a for three years, passed it on to my son who used it three more years. Bought a 6 after the 3a, used it for three years and passed it on to my son. I am typing this on my 9a. Never had any issues on any of those phones. Either I have been very lucky or you got two rotten apples.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The 8 had known screen issues, and they were fixed even out of warranty. After six months it would have been within warranty, so you definitely should have been able to get that fixed. I know, I had to have mine replaced too.

    I've had a 4, 6, and 8. No issues. But I know that if I do have hardware issues, Google will address them like these screen and battery issues.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    During which time I have no phone.

    Not acceptable. Bought something else.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I went to the nearest Google store. The time without a phone, I spent going and having a coffee.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Before the pixel existed I owned a Google Nexus 5 4 which was manufactured by LG and to date that was the worst phone I've ever owned. I guess my point is it doesn't matter who is manufacturing the hardware; if Google is involved it's gonna be junk.

    Edit: it was a 4 not a 5 but either way it was such an awful experience I've never bought another piece of Google hardware since

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I had a Nexus 5 (also LG) and it was the best I'd had for years. Ran lineageOS on it (maybe it was CyanogenMod still I can't remember) but that thing was the shit.

    I left it on top of my car once and ended up destroying it. Swapped the modem into an EU model (the modem and GPS module survived, all other components failed) and had basically a brand new phone afterwards.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't agree. Many of the cheaper phones are pretty shit and barebones. I've had Samsung flagship phones for years, and they have never disappointed me. Friends and family have had the cheaper Samsung phones, and they have been pretty hit and miss. You just kinda get what you pay for. Wanna pay €200 for a phone? You get something that can barely turn on, that's it.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Why would they make it worse

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Due to the risk of battery fires, Google said that devices with more than 400 charge cycles could see their capacity and charging speed drastically reduced.

    Apparently they design phones that'll last just over a year before self-igniting.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Does 400 charge cycles really amount to just over a year of use for most people? I’m assuming one cycle means a full power cycle, not just a top up.

    For reference (and I understand it’s a bit apples to oranges) I’ve had my iPhone 15 since Dec 2023 and charge it every night and it’s currently showing 125 charge cycles.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Becsuse that's what Google does now. They make things worse. They got bored of making things good.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    I love how they just make things worse indiscriminately now. Like you'd expect that if a company turns evil, they make things worse for profit, but google often doesn't even care about that and makes everything worse randomly.

    The clearest example I have is the maps app, which used to let you tap once to clear the search and directions bars off the screen. They removed that in one update for absolutely no fucking reason, so now a third+ of the screen is blocked at all times. If that space displayed ads or something at least I'd get that they were making an app shittier for profit, but nowadays more often than not everything just seems to be shitty because they don't give a fuck anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Oh well they were forced to acknowledge a problem that needed a fix and what they did was they asked Gemini how do we fix this which Gemini had zero problems at all, not even an inconvenience, in giving them it's fix so that's what they went with without a single further thought employed in the matter

    They really liked it when the response started with it's super easy

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I got an extra 30% battery life after switching to GrapheneOS. I'm guessing whatever is saving my battery, would also bring down the load on the system.

    I did notice my phone heats up much less after switching to GrapheneOS.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I've been runnnng GrapheneOS with charge capped at 80%. Phone has not emulated thermite.

    I haven't found any discussion about the battery issues at GrapheneOS yet.

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  • I have kinda bad battery issues on graphene and have been having it even on my old pixel 5 (currently on pixel 8a).

    Could it be because I use google play services? Maybe I'll get a huge decrease in battery consumption if I cut this off. But I do need it for maps and stuff

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Meaning you charge till 80% full, or at 80% max charging speed? just curious.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    80% full. It drastically helps extend battery life

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is this done manually , or there’s a system thing for it ?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    plan to buy a pixel just to put Graphene on. Which one do you have and any problems?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have no recommendations for versions. Depends in your case.

    Although I'll mention that some people don't like that Pixel by default doesn't include the bottom menu on the screen, and uses other swiping features on the screen to do the same thing.

    However in your system settings you can change the UI to gave the navigation menu at the bottom of the screen similar to Samsung.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Graphene lists all the pixel models they support and for how long. https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

    Finally had to ditch my 3a this month because Google is psychotic and it's too old for graphene or lineage. Sucks bc the phone still works great. I've temporarily got an 8a running graphene, and am loving it, but will be switching to a 9a shortly for non pertinent reasons. It is such a weird feeling of relief to be on a secure OS.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I have one of these phones. Google has reached out and I applied for the $$ to get a tradein, but google has yet to give me the $$ or contact me further. Its been a while too. Honestly, I got the 6a because it was going to be supported for a long time compared to other phones. This rubs me the wrong way.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Considering it is a Google phone their long term support is still crap compared to things like Fairphone or even iPhone.

    But it sucks that this happens and I hope they contact you for a trade in. Rules are also changing so all phones need to have a minimum lifespan of 5 years or so

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My battery sucks after this update. Once I get down to 30% it free falls.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    These updates are fire!

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Well that's just great.

    Here's the website to see if your PIxel6a is an "impacted device". Mine isn't, not sure why... zero transparency on this.

    https://support.google.com/pixelphone?p=pixel6a_battery_help

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the link. I put my phone's info in and it told me I'm eligible. But the color of the phone was completely wrong.

    I'm done with Pixels. The first one was amazing. But the quality has been going gradually downhill for both the main series and the A series phones.

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