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[–] 59 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

"Under English law, the maximum sentence for rape is life imprisonment, and 10 years for one count of sexual assault, according to Britain’s sentencing council."

This guy got basically sentenced for one + half a year of the 3 assaults and not caunting the 1 rape

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  • [–] 30 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

    With Brand's history and lifestyle, 10 years night still be a life sentence.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

    What do you call a serial rapist getting ten and a half years?

    A GOOD START.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    Honestly 10 years feels like roughly the right amount of time, assuming it's actually 10 years in prison and not 18 months in a celebrity daycamp.

    People change a lot in prison. Even a year or two. 10 years of prison later he will be a very very very different person, and I don't think an additional 5+ years would really make much of a difference.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    I was reading that in the UK this translates to 5 years before being eligible for parole.

    Which is still a lot for someone who is used to the lifestyle / comfort that Brand had.

    I personally feel like 10 full years in prison isn't enough, but I'm not a judge. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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  • [–] 2 points 19 minutes ago*

    I really just goes to the "Is prison a punishment, a rehabilitation system, or a deterrence". If someone isn't rehabilitated after 10 years, then they also won't be after 20 (IMO). And there are lots of studies that show lengthy sentences don't really function as a deterrence due to human brains poorly conceptualizing 5 vs 10 vs 15 vs 20 years. At some point it's just "A long time in jail" and advocating for 10 vs 20 years doesn't benefit the deterrence aspect. Also, your average violent criminal isn't thinking "Well I WOULD rape her if it was only 5 years, but since it will be 10, I won't"

    So then it's just about punishment. And 10 years in jail is a very very intense punishment. Forced to choose, I would take a LOT of other punishments to not have to spend the next 10 years in jail which, for what it's worth, often leads to rape from others in the prison.

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  • [–] 1 point 47 minutes ago

    I was more meaning that there are other cases coming. But yeah, the sentence seems..... sentencing is difficult. Can any time truly make up for violent crimes? But yet there must be serious consequences.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 hours ago

    I'm surprised it is that much. I know someone who went down for rape with someone under age and sexual misconduct with someone else underage and he got 6 years. Probably serve 4 years I guess, for permanently destroying two peoples' lives. Ridiculous.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    There's already two more women who have come forward, and more are being encouraged to as well, so you got this right

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  • [–] 2 points 48 minutes ago

    yeah, exactly what I was meaning to reference. I mean, who knows, maybe these were the only incidents and he's completely innocent of all the others.

    .......seems extremely unlikely, though

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  • [–] 33 points 5 hours ago
    [–] 15 points 1 hour ago

    Good, one more rapey, creepy, rich cunt not walking the streets. Now if only the US would start doing the same things to our rich, rapey cunts. We should start with the orange molester in chief.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 hours ago

    It's a little light for the charges but hopefully he gets more when the other cases go to trial.

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  • [–] 6 points 46 minutes ago (1 child)

    If you're feeling upset about the length of the sentence, think about where you were ten years ago and you'll quickly realize that ten years go by very slowly. That's a huge chunk of life when you really think about it. It's only the number itself that looks small

    There's something to say about the fact he will be only 61 when he gets out, though. It does give one anxiety, doesn't it? It's not like he'll be old and frail

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  • [–] 12 points 5 hours ago* (4 children)

    My got the Wikipedia section on the incidents (a life times worth of offending, and it being an open secret at the BBC that he was a known predator) was exhausting.

    Luckily this was also in there too:

    In the days following his charges, Brand was "indefinitely" suspended from his role as an ambassador for the Tiggywinkles Wildlife Hospital charity[239] and dropped as a celebrity spokesperson for the American Catholic meditation and prayer app Hallow.[240]

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  • [–] 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Tiggywinkles

    I do love the sheer percentage of British things that scream "WE ARE BRITISH" by their very name.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago

    Good riddance m8

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    This guy wasn't already a convicted sex offender? This just now happened!?

    Bro, I'm mandela effecting hard right now lmao.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago

    I guess lots of time to write My Prissy Wizz

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago*

    Not rich enough to be immune from punishment. Git gud.

    All he had to do was add his name onto the Epstein files to get away with it.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (9 children)

    Rape really needs to be up there with murder. He's a serial rapist, he shouldn't be getting out. he'll just go back to abusing when he's out.

    edit for the people attacking me on this:

    longer sentencing on rape and sexual abuse, less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has never been shown to increase the rate of murder, murdering a rape victim doesn't help a rapist avoid detection, 90% of rapists target people they know well and can be easily linked to by police, a dead body is a much bigger problem than a rape accusation. and again, legislation changing sentencing has taken place in many places where I live in California this has happened repeatedly, once in the 80's and once more recently at the least, and neither instance has led to an increase in murder rates, or the pattern of behavior of rapists or sexual abusers changing to include murder. they still target people they know and can gain power or authority over and abuse them and pressure them to be silent, not murder them. this theory that longer sentencing will make all rape become murder doesn't make sense and hasn't happened when sentences increased in the past

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  • [–] 49 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

    Making rape punishment equal to that for murder makes killing rape victims a most logical choice for any rapist. Justice system must be proportional and not based on emotions alone to be effective.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

    I get the theory, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, it's never been positivity shown that legislation effects criminal behavior to that extent, most criminals think ''I'll never get caught'' not ''I can stomach the punishment''

    edit for all the down votes: longer sentences and less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has happened, this has happened in CA where I live several times in fact, and murder rates have not gone up to meet the rate of rape or sexual abuse. this isn't a thing that's ever happened, and longer sentencing has never been shown to increase the rate of violent crimes, that's not how rapists have been shown to behave or think. also deciding I'm being emotional by suggesting rape needs to be treated like murder in sentencing is foolish, I clearly said the reason is that rapists shouldn't be allowed to reenter society, as they'll continue to be rapists, and seek victims.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    most criminals think ''I'll never get caught''

    And dead lips don’t speak

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  • [–] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child)

    most rapist target victims they know and can be connected to, family members, social relationships, romantic relationships, and work relationships, it's it MUCH harder to get away with murdering someone you know, than abusing them. killing them would almost certainly be attributed to the person they know that was motivated to harm them. if Brand killed any of his victims he targeted through his work connections, he would have been caught very very quickly. he's avoided jail for such a long time because abuse and rape carry enough stigma and trauma and the pressure of not being the person who's causing problem in your profession when you aren't in a position of power makes it hard for victims to report and pursue legal charges. killing these women wouldn't have solved any problem. over 90% of rape and sexual abuse is from someone that woman knows well. this is the tactic of rapist and abusers, to get into someone's life, and abuse them with the pressure of being their boss or romantic partner, or otherwise connected to them in a way that stops them from reporting that adds more stigma or trauma to stop them from talking, killing them might stop them from talking, but it goes from an unreported crime to a crime that will likely make headlines and draw significant attention and that 90% are known to the victim also means police won't have a hard time linking the victim to the murderer, so your suggestion that LONGER JAIL TIME for rapists will lead to every rapist becoming a murder, doesn't make sense. the pattern of abuse, and the outcomes of said abuse don't line up at all with murder being a logical solution to avoiding longer jail times.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago* (3 children)

    Only convicted of one so far, plus assaults, so not yet officially a serial, so wait & see.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 hours ago

    I don't know if this article says but others have noted he has other charges pending, and the judge stated after the victim impact statements that he clearly has a pattern of sexual abuse, I'm also not swayed at all by the difference in conviction of rape vs how many times he actually raped in real life, often in these and also serial murder cases, the prosecution will focus on one or two instances that are easier to convict rather than every instance it reportedly happened, I don't agree with this commonality of the legal system, it is what they do, unfortunately, and it allows people to minimize crimes in a lot of cases because someone was only technically convicted once. he's an abuser with many victims, he's rape more than one woman for certain, I don't care how the prosecution decides to arrange the charges.

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  • [–] 2 points 50 minutes ago

    Methinks that the only time we're gonna hear about this guy from now on is in "What celebrity destroyed their reputation the most" posts.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago

    I wasn't following closely, but this is a positive thing. The sentencing is light. Now do more celebs!

    I like that the wikipedia infobox has the criminal info already!

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  • [–] 2 points 51 minutes ago

    He's not allowed to cast pods in there, is he?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    Lou Sanders win

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago

    Beady-eyed fuck

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Crap. I have several Russell brand shirts / sportsware. Guess donation centers are going to see a real swell of this stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 52 minutes ago*

    I bought his Booky Wook when I was 19. Still got it. I know there's a word for owning items related to a criminal, but I can't remember it right now. Makes you feel like one of those true crime enthusiasts who have a collection of Jeffrey Dahmer's letters or something

    Maybe I should put it in a glass case and watch guests gasp and stare at it with morbid curiosity

    I think they literally showed a page from the book in the trial. Wild.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    And the Epstein gang sentences a sexual predator.

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    [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (3 children)

    He's to serve 2/3rds and then be released on license.

    https://bbc.com/news/videos/c6vg7gnjjlj8o

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    He has to satisfy a parole board that he's suitable to be released on licence, it's not an automatic thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 38 minutes ago

    He must be broke

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago (4 children)

    My roommate used to watch Forgetting Sarah Marshal once a week

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    I used to watch Get Him to the Greek. Found out both the lead actors are terrible people. Although Jonah Hill is just a dick ... Russell Brand is a monster ...

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  • [–] 2 points 42 minutes ago

    I was a pretty big fan of Brand in my late teens and early 20s. It felt awful reading about how he "used his campy persona to make women think he's gay and make them trust him more". I was bi and living in a conservative country in my teens and his campiness helped my confidence. Can't say I remember much of his stand-up material, though.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    That's it?

    Unacceptable.

    Here's hoping he's at least put in a real prison

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