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Russell Brand sentenced to more than 10 years in prison for rape and sexual assaults (www.nbcnews.com)
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[–] 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (10 children)

Rape really needs to be up there with murder. He's a serial rapist, he shouldn't be getting out. he'll just go back to abusing when he's out.

edit for the people attacking me on this:

longer sentencing on rape and sexual abuse, less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has never been shown to increase the rate of murder, murdering a rape victim doesn't help a rapist avoid detection, 90% of rapists target people they know well and can be easily linked to by police, a dead body is a much bigger problem than a rape accusation. and again, legislation changing sentencing has taken place in many places where I live in California this has happened repeatedly, once in the 80's and once more recently at the least, and neither instance has led to an increase in murder rates, or the pattern of behavior of rapists or sexual abusers changing to include murder. they still target people they know and can gain power or authority over and abuse them and pressure them to be silent, not murder them. this theory that longer sentencing will make all rape become murder doesn't make sense and hasn't happened when sentences increased in the past

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  • [–] 50 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    Making rape punishment equal to that for murder makes killing rape victims a most logical choice for any rapist. Justice system must be proportional and not based on emotions alone to be effective.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

    I get the theory, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, it's never been positivity shown that legislation effects criminal behavior to that extent, most criminals think ''I'll never get caught'' not ''I can stomach the punishment''

    edit for all the down votes: longer sentences and less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has happened, this has happened in CA where I live several times in fact, and murder rates have not gone up to meet the rate of rape or sexual abuse. this isn't a thing that's ever happened, and longer sentencing has never been shown to increase the rate of violent crimes, that's not how rapists have been shown to behave or think. also deciding I'm being emotional by suggesting rape needs to be treated like murder in sentencing is foolish, I clearly said the reason is that rapists shouldn't be allowed to reenter society, as they'll continue to be rapists, and seek victims.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    most criminals think ''I'll never get caught''

    And dead lips don’t speak

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  • [–] 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

    most rapist target victims they know and can be connected to, family members, social relationships, romantic relationships, and work relationships, it's it MUCH harder to get away with murdering someone you know, than abusing them. killing them would almost certainly be attributed to the person they know that was motivated to harm them. if Brand killed any of his victims he targeted through his work connections, he would have been caught very very quickly. he's avoided jail for such a long time because abuse and rape carry enough stigma and trauma and the pressure of not being the person who's causing problem in your profession when you aren't in a position of power makes it hard for victims to report and pursue legal charges. killing these women wouldn't have solved any problem. over 90% of rape and sexual abuse is from someone that woman knows well. this is the tactic of rapist and abusers, to get into someone's life, and abuse them with the pressure of being their boss or romantic partner, or otherwise connected to them in a way that stops them from reporting that adds more stigma or trauma to stop them from talking, killing them might stop them from talking, but it goes from an unreported crime to a crime that will likely make headlines and draw significant attention and that 90% are known to the victim also means police won't have a hard time linking the victim to the murderer, so your suggestion that LONGER JAIL TIME for rapists will lead to every rapist becoming a murder, doesn't make sense. the pattern of abuse, and the outcomes of said abuse don't line up at all with murder being a logical solution to avoiding longer jail times.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago* (3 children)

    Only convicted of one so far, plus assaults, so not yet officially a serial, so wait & see.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago

    I don't know if this article says but others have noted he has other charges pending, and the judge stated after the victim impact statements that he clearly has a pattern of sexual abuse, I'm also not swayed at all by the difference in conviction of rape vs how many times he actually raped in real life, often in these and also serial murder cases, the prosecution will focus on one or two instances that are easier to convict rather than every instance it reportedly happened, I don't agree with this commonality of the legal system, it is what they do, unfortunately, and it allows people to minimize crimes in a lot of cases because someone was only technically convicted once. he's an abuser with many victims, he's rape more than one woman for certain, I don't care how the prosecution decides to arrange the charges.

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